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Gingrich on Romney’s ‘gifts’ comments: ‘It’s nuts’
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Posted on 11/18/2012 12:15:36 PM PST by Windy City Conservative

"It's nuts," Gingrich told guest host Martha Raddatz on ABC's "This Week" on Sunday. "First of all, it's insulting. This would be like Wal-Mart having a bad week and going, 'The customers have really been unruly.' I mean, the job of a political leader in part is to understand the people. If we can't offer a better future that is believable to more people, we're not going to win."

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: brilliant; gifts; gingrich; mittissoreloser; newt; newtgingrich; nuts; romney; romneywastheproblem; rush
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There goes Gingrich. Notice the end of his quote. "If we can't offer a better future that is believable to more people, we're not going to win". The nation used to offer freedom and that was it's greatest gift. Now, almost all politicians are big government gangsters. Notice how the stock market is held hostage by politicians and their votes on fiscal cliff deals, budgets, debt ceilings. It was never supposed to get to the point, where the failings of govt. stewardship effected the markets more than anything else. That right there takes away freedom.
1 posted on 11/18/2012 12:15:40 PM PST by Windy City Conservative
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To: Windy City Conservative

FUNG!


2 posted on 11/18/2012 12:19:08 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Yet another reason to add to Gingrich’s baggage and why he lost and should never have entered the primaries.


3 posted on 11/18/2012 12:19:29 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Windy City Conservative
"First of all, we didn't lose Asian-Americans because they got any gifts. He did worse with Asian-Americans than he did with Latinos. This is the hardest-working and most successful ethnic group in America--they ain't into gifts.

Young Asian-Americans are not the same as the ones Newt remembers.

4 posted on 11/18/2012 12:20:09 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Windy City Conservative

Newt, lighten up, the primary season ended months ago.


5 posted on 11/18/2012 12:22:33 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Windy City Conservative

There goes the Newt would have been better than Mitt concept.


6 posted on 11/18/2012 12:22:48 PM PST by BlueStateRightist (“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”)
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To: Windy City Conservative
Gingrich is nuts. He isn't any different than the other RINOs
7 posted on 11/18/2012 12:23:35 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: BlueStateRightist

“There goes the Newt would have been better than Mitt concept.”

Yep!


8 posted on 11/18/2012 12:24:35 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: Windy City Conservative

Crazy how the debt ceiling made it easier for the government to borrow money, and now it’s considered a problem. What a shocker.


9 posted on 11/18/2012 12:25:09 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Romney was spot on. But, the problem is that no one can say the obvious any more. Which just proves what a bind Conservatives are in.


10 posted on 11/18/2012 12:25:18 PM PST by rbg81
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To: Windy City Conservative
Let's see...Freedom versus Free Phones, Free Food, Free Housing, Free Heat, Free Transportation, Free Medical, Free MONEY and you DON'T HAVE TO WORK A DAY IN YOUR LIFE!!!!!! Hard to compete when this has been GENERATIONS in the making.

Republicans better start explaining wht BIG GIVERNMENT MEANS!!

11 posted on 11/18/2012 12:25:45 PM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....the HUMAN sacrifice to the god of CONVENIENCE.)
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To: BlueStateRightist

“There goes the Newt would have been better than Mitt concept.”

Ditto.


12 posted on 11/18/2012 12:27:01 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Windy City Conservative

” “I think we lost the election because the far right of this party has taken the party to a place that it doesn’t belong.” “ This comment is from Carlos Guitierrez, a Romney adviser.

Gutierrez and others are the problem, not Gingrich.

I understand what Gingrich is saying, you obviously do not. Romney could NEVER bring himself to sell the conservative strengths involved in liberty and the responsible use of that liberty.

Romney has always been a liberal, a life-long Lib.


13 posted on 11/18/2012 12:27:56 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: rbg81

Go ahead and say the obvious; sometimes people need to be smacked upside the head with the hard truth. Four years from now, voters who voted to receive Obama’s gifts, may realize that the country has no more money for their gifts anymore. Then, those people will probably not even vote in 2016.

Once China calls our debt; I hope those who received Obama’s gifts are the first ones sent over to China to work off the debt. It’s like having to stay and do the dishes, when you can’t pay the restaurant tab.


14 posted on 11/18/2012 12:29:24 PM PST by Windy City Conservative
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To: Windy City Conservative

The bad Newt returns. The good Newt would have stood by the “gifts” comments and explained it better than Mitt.

The bad Newt and the good Newt - one of the stories of the primary campaign...


15 posted on 11/18/2012 12:29:39 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: Windy City Conservative

The bad Newt returns. The good Newt would have stood by the “gifts” comments and explained it better than Mitt.

The bad Newt and the good Newt - one of the stories of the primary campaign...


16 posted on 11/18/2012 12:30:27 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: SatinDoll

Gingrich is wrong.

Freedom is the most precious gift of all. It is the only future.

What you are seeing is a party that does not understand the reason it exists, and it does not understand that it stands for nothing.

The GOP is doomed.


17 posted on 11/18/2012 12:31:18 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: FR_addict

Newt called himself the utlimate insider, he did mean it, you know.


18 posted on 11/18/2012 12:34:04 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SatinDoll

You are right. Newt said it best.


19 posted on 11/18/2012 12:35:16 PM PST by tsowellfan (Allen West for Speaker!)
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To: Windy City Conservative
Why we are doomed and Romney was right.

Chapter - It's Free Swipe Yo EBT (Explicit!!!)

20 posted on 11/18/2012 12:35:51 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: A_perfect_lady
Young Asian-Americans are not the same as the ones Newt remembers.

The hard working capitalists of yesteryear are the new crony capitalists of today. More and more, they're coming to realize that if you want to be successful in Obamaville, you have to pay out enough of your profits to DemocRAT graft. That's the only way you'll get certain "favors" which will allow your business to succeed.

This is the Pelosi/Obama/Reid Democrat Party's plan: to keep converting people on the public dole into lazy ObamaPhone ladies, and making more and more producers into deciding they have to become crony capitalists.

Is it too late to turn it around? I don't know.

21 posted on 11/18/2012 12:37:09 PM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Once China calls our debt; I hope those who received Obama’s gifts are the first ones sent over to China to work off the debt. It’s like having to stay and do the dishes, when you can’t pay the restaurant tab.


The dirty little secret is that China isn’t financing our debt anymore. The Federal Reserve is buying it with $$ conjured out of thin air.


22 posted on 11/18/2012 12:37:38 PM PST by rbg81
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To: FR_addict
“There goes the Newt would have been better than Mitt concept.”

Yep!

Same here. I read the whole article and Newt's right.

23 posted on 11/18/2012 12:37:50 PM PST by painter (Obamahood,"Steal from the working people and give to the worthless.")
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To: Windy City Conservative

Well, Newt is a realist and he knows people are no longer looking for “the good life” that includes a maximum amount of freedom and opportunity. They’re looking for “the goods life” that includes everyone having stuff, stuff, and more stuff, no matter what amount of freedom and dignity they have to give up to have that stuff.

The democrat fascists built their current model for society on what the book, “Beyond Freedom and Dignity”, espoused as the proper future for mankind. For decades they’ve carefully attacked industries that employ large numbers of people in order to increase dependence, brainwashed several generations of young people to prefer wallowing with the rest of the pigs to making something of themselves, and gradually made childish behavior the accepted norm for people well into their twenties.

Unless most people believe an alternative will make it possible for them to have more stuff, telling them they’ll have more freedom doesn’t even register with them.


24 posted on 11/18/2012 12:38:04 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Neither are the whites. Remember seven millions of them did not vote this time.


25 posted on 11/18/2012 12:38:54 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“The good Newt would have stood by the “gifts” comments and explained it better than Mitt.”

Exactly. Conservatives all should be doubling down on the concept of limited government in anticipation of the inevitable US Debt Crisis. Therefore, when the sh*t hits the fan only conservatives will be in a position to claim the mantle of correctness. Amazing how people like Christy, Jindal and Newt put themselves in a position that doesn’t distinguish themselves as disagreeing with our Entitlement Culture.


26 posted on 11/18/2012 12:39:48 PM PST by BlueStateRightist (Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Gingrich would have lost 46 states if he had been the candidate.


27 posted on 11/18/2012 12:44:32 PM PST by Lockbar (Quality factory loaded ammunition ---- The New Gold)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Douche douching on a douche.

Now that the GOP has sacrificed Allen West on the altar of political correctness and they confirm his loss in the recount, they will finally have achieved their goal of getting rid of the last honest and manly man in national politics.


28 posted on 11/18/2012 12:45:29 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Windy City Conservative
Et tu, Newt?

That didn't take long :(

Conservative principles are being thrown under the bus, along with Romney.

29 posted on 11/18/2012 12:47:17 PM PST by Jane Long ("Miss me yet?" - Mitt)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Et tu, Brute?


30 posted on 11/18/2012 12:48:04 PM PST by patriot08 (Native Texan)
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To: Windy City Conservative
Welllll, a gift is given from the heart. I do not consider the redistribution of peoples wealth by the long arms of government any part of giving gifts.

Who does Santa ripoff on his fairly tale journey to deliver gifts? The recipients of wealth redistribution do not consider what they get as gifts, they believe they are owed. It is ‘social justice’ to the overwhelming majority.

31 posted on 11/18/2012 12:49:05 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Everyone knows the Dems use the USA treasury to buy the votes. Romney stating it isn’t wrong. Romney isn’t a liar, but Gingrich is either a liar or a blind fool; take your pick.


32 posted on 11/18/2012 12:49:23 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: chris37

“Gingrich is wrong.”

“The GOP is doomed.”

Newt Gingrich allied himself with Ronald Reagan to build the Reagan Coalition, the Religious Right, and the Republican majority (together the Reagan Revolution) which directly led to the Contract with America, government reforms, less government, tax cuts, a balanced budget, and the great, long-standing Reagan economy.

And you say he is wrong?

Fourteen years later Under a Republican president, the Republican Congress added over $3 trillion to the federal deficit, shunned conservative policy in favor of Beltway influence-peddling, and so damaged the GOP brand that we lost the majority Gingrich had worked years to forge.

THIS is what Gingrich was talking about changing; Romney was the champion of these thieves in Congress - is that what you wanted?

How much should I really care what you think of Newt? How much have you done in your life to promote the responsible use of liberty necessary to turn this nation around?

I don’t give a damn what your or anyone else thinks about Gingrich, or that he would be a disaster for Republicans. Romney has been a disaster.

Don’t forget that 2010 was not a merit promotion; they, the Republicans, were the only alternative in town.

If you neither trust nor like Newt Gingrich, so what. People like you parrot old talking points from the Romney campaign.

The Democrats are the party of ‘Free Shit’. Republicans should be the party of freedom, rule of law, and the responsible use of that freedom.


33 posted on 11/18/2012 12:51:04 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Rashputin

It’s funny about the “stuff and more stuff” thing. Liberals like to pretend they are anti-consumerism, but the fact is, they are the biggest consumers of all. Once government pays for your housing, education, health, food, etc, all a liberal’s money goes to is entertainment. The latest iWidgets and iGadgets are all being snapped up by libs who can’t wait to compare apps. Conservatives spend their money on canned foods and home-schooling, liberals spend it at Gap, Ikea, and Apple. Then they snarl about capitalism. It’s just weird.


34 posted on 11/18/2012 12:56:30 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Windy City Conservative

Just a matter of time until the real Newt emerged. His act of calling out the media was just that.....an act. He’s smooching media behinds again which is his normal position. On his knees....


35 posted on 11/18/2012 12:58:19 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: A CA Guy

Me thinks you ranted without comprehening my point. Perhaps go re read. We have no disagreement.


36 posted on 11/18/2012 12:58:21 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: C. Edmund Wright
The bad Newt returns. The good Newt would have stood by the “gifts” comments and explained it better than Mitt.

One of Newt's most reliable characteristics is that just when you get comfortable with "good Newt," you turn around and "bad Newt" is sitting across from you, often serving up something that the MSM can use to help bludgeon freedom. No mystery why a guy they supposedly dislike so much remains a broadcasting staple nearly 20 years down the road. Still, he also has legions of "conservative" fans remaining- many who see the man through the rose-tinted glasses of 1994... back when they came with the polarized lenses that allowed them to see only the Gingrich they agreed with. I'd probably be depressed further if I knew how many people here think the guy ought to be on the GOP ticket in 2016 (or 2020, or 2024).

Well, here's to Newt Gingrich: occasionally right, occasionally wrong, but always looking out for what's best for Newt Gingrich. He's reliable in that respect as well.

Mr. niteowl77

37 posted on 11/18/2012 1:02:37 PM PST by niteowl77 (Getting stuck with other peoples' just desserts good and hard for over 50 years.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Typical GOP, throw out your own as yesterday’s garbage.

Meanwhile Bill Clinton is laughing all the way back to the White House with Hilary.


38 posted on 11/18/2012 1:09:25 PM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: rbg81

No, this doesn’t properly show how Conservatives are in a bind, Romney is not a Conservative. If he had run with that comment, thinking like a Conservative, there would have been a different outcome.

It is difficult to determine what it would have been, as I cannot imagine Mitt thinking and talking like a Conservative. He did have a momentary visit with the truth and common sense with the comment. But because of that, it was a hot potato for him.

Newt would’ve ended up on the sofa with Pelosi.


39 posted on 11/18/2012 1:10:06 PM PST by stanne
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To: A_perfect_lady

You’re right. They value themselves within their peer group by whether they have the right goodies, not by what they share with the group in the way of conversation, sense of humor, and so on.


40 posted on 11/18/2012 1:12:56 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

I guess I’m confused, yet again. Wasn’t it Newt who went on about having the inner city kids doing ‘chores’ to learn the merit of work and earning something? What the he** am I missing here? He’s against giving away free stuff, but is upset that someone called out the giving away of free stuff?
What did I miss?!


41 posted on 11/18/2012 1:14:47 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 (Fluck this adminstration of misfits.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

“If we can’t offer a better future that is believable to more people, we’re not going to win”.

Like it or not, that statement is a fact..... and proven by the results of the election.

We now have the most ignorant electorate in the history of American elections. I believe we have the most corrupt government and media our country has ever seen.

“Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom and then lost it have never known it again.” ~ Ronald Reagan, from his first inaugural speech as governor of California, January 5, 1967

Ronald Reagan’s warning about losing our freedoms echoes down through a generation of lost momentum and squandered opportunity.

In less than 2 weeks Obama has carved up even more of our Freedoms and he will not stop. Obama has been given over 4 more years to continue his destruction.

We can all look for fault/blame until the sun burns out, but pure and simple........... we let Obama win.


42 posted on 11/18/2012 1:14:59 PM PST by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: COBOL2Java

“. . . the Pelosi/Obama/Reid Democrat Party’s plan: to keep converting people on the public dole into lazy ObamaPhone ladies”

“. . . the Pelosi/ /Reid Democrat Party’s plan: to keep converting people on the public dole into lazy ObamaPhone ladies”

Hussein is stringing them along like a Middle East ambassador and security team.

His hangers-on think they’re in a different position.

No.


43 posted on 11/18/2012 1:15:30 PM PST by stanne
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To: Windy City Conservative
This is why the party is in free fall. The people out front who are telling the political truth become the target of one’s anger. Newt is right. Stop blaming Newt because Romney could not sell the conservative message. Romney had no business saying that 47% of the country is a write off. A party should...always..try to reach groups for them to think about what conservatism offers. Like Reagan did. Romney lost not due to Christe or Newt or Palin. Romney is a liberal and many of you hoisted him up as a true conservative, now you complain and target others. Not to worry, we will end up with another person who will lie to us in 2016. If Romney had not acted wimpy, making excuses (gifts comments), it would never brought out the pay you back voter. Anger does work with the voter. See the mirror. I am not helping Romney dig out of his hole. Listen to what Newt is trying to tell you politically. Imo.
44 posted on 11/18/2012 1:16:37 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. As another FR member says..Obamas are living in gangster paradise.)
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To: Rashputin

“. . . no matter what amount of freedom and dignity they have to give up to have that stuff.”

If it WERE about this, you’d have a point. What it is about, and you know this, is that there is no future with this system.

When these people swear in they promise to protect the Constitution.

They AND voters ignore that, but it IS the truth of what’s going on.

They do not get to make up their own rules and not have consequences. All actions have consequences.


45 posted on 11/18/2012 1:20:12 PM PST by stanne
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To: niteowl77

I don’t disagree with any of that except to say that few if any of Newt’s supporters have rose colored glasses. He is a mixed bag, and this comment about Mitt was just gratuitious. What he should have said, if he felt like saying anything, was that Mitt was absoutely right, and should have said so in defending his 47% comments BEFORE election day.

Another thing is this, Newt had the message twice in the primry season, only to be taken off his game by Mitt’s super PAC and obscene negative campaigning in both Iowa and then Florida. And I mean obscene.

Newt is no doubt still ticked off.


46 posted on 11/18/2012 1:21:54 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: SatinDoll

I voted for Gingrich here in Florida.

Yes, I say he is wrong.

You follow him if you want to, he will lead you to further defeat, and so will every other repubican. The entire pary outside of about 5 people is a disaster.

I don’t care if you attack me for attacking him. It isn’t going to help you, and neither will he.


47 posted on 11/18/2012 1:25:28 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Christie at the beach

Mitt was right, except that it’s more than 47%.

When you include fraud, it’s infinity.


48 posted on 11/18/2012 1:28:24 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Just mythoughts

“Who does Santa ripoff on his fairly tale journey to deliver gifts?”

I wrote Rush last week to beg him to drop the Santa reference. It is a missed analogy.

Santa is not a fairy tale, he was a Bishop in East Europe whose name is from the Dutch. The caricature is from Moore’s poem “A visit from. . .”

Santa does infuse the holidays with charity, it is true.

He has a naughty list. Parents used to use it for the betterment of their efforts in child rearing, producing contrubutors to society who are presently flipping in their graves.

But no one gets ripped off.

If I could come up with a better analogy for Rush, I would share the idea.

Equating Hussein with a great saint at least a wonderful American persona whose naughty list Hussein would be on for a host of issues is terrible.


49 posted on 11/18/2012 1:29:23 PM PST by stanne
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To: Windy City Conservative

Well, I guess the GOP has declared war on white males too, thanks GOP, white males are the new boogeymen, Martin Luther King Jr. wanted us to judge one another by the content of one’s character rather than the color of one’s skin, well, our leadership, like the Democrats, are a**holes and racists, thanks for nothing GOP!


50 posted on 11/18/2012 1:31:08 PM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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