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House resolution calls on Obama to reject UN arms trade treaty
THE HILL ^ | November 20, 2012 | Pete Kasperowicz

Posted on 11/20/2012 2:39:29 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER

Several dozen members of the House have introduced a resolution that calls on President Obama not to sign the United Nations's Arms Trade Treaty (ATT). It also demands that if Obama does sign it, the government should not spend any time or money on implementation until the Senate approves it.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arms; banglist; treaty; un
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1 posted on 11/20/2012 2:39:42 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Obama’s plan to circumvent the Constitution of the United States is an Impeachable Offense. It will give the UN, Useless Nations, the right to control our right to possess arms. The mere suggestion of this makes my blood boil.

The !~!@#$^ bastard swore to defend our constitution, not dilute it.

2 posted on 11/20/2012 2:51:28 PM PST by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Treaties must be ratified. The President cannot enter into any treaty all by his dictatorial little self.


3 posted on 11/20/2012 2:53:54 PM PST by GingisK
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Is there some hope that the Senate won't rubber stamp and approve it? Obama seems to ignore any resolutions or letters from the republicans in congress, so I believe the ‘strongly worded’ resolution is a waste of time, but is there enough sane democrats left in the Senate to link up with the minority republicans any kill the bill?
4 posted on 11/20/2012 2:54:55 PM PST by 2010Freeper
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
...if Obama does sign it, the government should not spend any time or money on implementation until even if the Senate approves it.
The House decides the money right?

They should NOT allow any money for this. Make the dem Senate override that decision.

5 posted on 11/20/2012 3:01:47 PM PST by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead-->MSM/Dems/GOP-e -- LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Reject it? Hell, he probably WROTE it!


6 posted on 11/20/2012 3:05:07 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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To: 2010Freeper

I’ve heard that there is some senate resistance, don’t know how much.


7 posted on 11/20/2012 3:05:33 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (')
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To: GingisK

But he CAN order that all government agencies under his control, including the ATF, act as though it were the law of the land.


8 posted on 11/20/2012 3:07:27 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Remember!?!?!?! This is mostly the same house and senate members that passed the NDAA (lock em up by command of the president without charge, without access to counsel and indefinitely). Don’t worry, just sit back and accept the fact there is no longer a Constitution so accept that the majority of supposedly elected traitors in DC will WITHOUT A DOUBT allow the US to adopt this UN treaty. Most politicians denigrate the Tea Party folks because they are scared to death of us thus they must disarm us. Once this treaty is passed we can all respond in an appropriate fashion as the obozo, Holder, Hitlery and it, it goes by Janet Nipolitano, attempt to confiscate our firearms.


9 posted on 11/20/2012 3:27:17 PM PST by drypowder
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Adopting it and enforcing it are to different issues.

This is not Britain or Australia.


10 posted on 11/20/2012 3:36:01 PM PST by Venturer
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11 posted on 11/20/2012 4:02:21 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Venturer

Yeah but how many Americans (and dogs) will have to be killed by local SWAT teams, Sheriffs, police, ATF, FBI, before the 0bamamedia covers it? Were there any gun confiscations during Hurricane Sandy? The 0bamamedia are NOT reporting ANYTHING which would incite law-abiding Americans to revolt. Besides voter fraud, this enabled 0bama’s re-election; Benghazi is one example.


12 posted on 11/20/2012 4:05:05 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
By the way, just another tooth in the gear of:
AGENDA 21
13 posted on 11/20/2012 4:10:25 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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14 posted on 11/20/2012 4:12:57 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

A government that would try to implement this treaty in America would prove beyond all doubt that they mean to invoke an insurrection, with the intent to establish a dictatorship after squashing it.


15 posted on 11/20/2012 4:23:02 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

But that would mean he would have to ignore the rule of law and our founding documents…

Oh, we’re talking about Benghazi Barack…. Never mind..


16 posted on 11/20/2012 4:25:15 PM PST by Voice of Reason1 (Absolute power corrupts absolutely Lord Acton 1887)
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To: GingisK
Treaties must be ratified. The President cannot enter into any treaty all by his dictatorial little self.

Then why pray tell did George Bush bother to "unsign" the International Criminal Court Treaty? Hmmm???

Ever since the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties went into force, a signature is enough grounds for the government to begin to enforce it. Even though the Senate rejected it, it has been treated by the government as "customary international law."

Oh, and if you still feel comfy in that ignorance, realize this: Per Article II Section 2, Clause 2 of the Constitution, it only takes 34 Senators to ratify a treaty, "two thirds of the Senators present" presuming a quorum of 51. You can learn more about how that happened here.

17 posted on 11/20/2012 4:55:06 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: BatGuano; GingisK; Blood of Tyrants; Venturer; dagogo redux; Voice of Reason1; Carry_Okie
3. Treaties must be ratified. The President cannot enter into any treaty all by his dictatorial little self.

8. But he CAN order that all government agencies under his control, including the ATF, act as though it were the law of the land.

10. Adopting it and enforcing it are to different issues. ...

15. A government that would try to implement this treaty in America would prove beyond all doubt that they mean to invoke an insurrection, with the intent to establish a dictatorship after squashing it.

16. But that would mean he would have to ignore the rule of law and our founding documents …

17. ... Ever since the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties went into force, a signature is enough grounds for the government to begin to enforce it. Even though the Senate rejected it, it has been treated by the government as "customary international law." ...

Most of us seem to be on the same page and see that a 2/3rd Senate ratification barrier will not be an impediment for BHO. He has shown his disdain for the Constitution and conservatives. His AG, Eric Holder, sure hasn't let a House resolution of contempt because of "Fast & Furious" slow him down. Didn't Clinton sign the Kyoto Accord? Other Freepers have pointed out that once the chief executive (POTUS) signs off on the UN bill, the bill remains in stasis just waiting for that future time when there is a 2/3 Senate majority. Aren't those U.S. gun stores along the Mexican border still under a DoJ restriction of 1 firearm sale per person per day?

18 posted on 11/20/2012 5:13:28 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

reject it? good luck with that

it’s one of his many goals for the next 4 yrs

wait until he gets a breathless call with Putin....


19 posted on 11/20/2012 5:55:59 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: MacNaughton
Most of us seem to be on the same page and see that a 2/3rd Senate ratification barrier will not be an impediment for BHO.

It's not 2/3 of the Senate; it's 2/3 of SENATORS PRESENT, IOW as few as 34.

Other Freepers have pointed out that once the chief executive (POTUS) signs off on the UN bill, the bill remains in stasis just waiting for that future time when there is a 2/3 Senate majority.

Not true. Read the linked article above.

20 posted on 11/20/2012 6:04:11 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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