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HAWKINS: Republican Party must remain for life, against abortion
Washington Times ^ | November 15, 2012 | Kristan Hawkins

Posted on 11/22/2012 8:33:27 AM PST by rhema

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To: soycd

Seriously, you’ve done enough damage in the past, quit campaigning for Mitt Romney, change your ways and help conservatives prevent another rino disaster from becoming the nominee in 2016, and in the 2014 elections.

That 2012 election is over, the choice now is, ‘is the mistake of Mitt, a thing of the past to learn from, or to duplicate’?

So far your 2016 politics look just like your 2012 politics.


41 posted on 11/22/2012 12:36:58 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb FischerÂ’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Drew68

Drew68: “Yep! Social conservatives sure taught America a lesson. Let’s reject the guy who’s 75% conservative for the guy who’s 0% conservative.”

First off, Romney wasn’t even close to being 75% conservative. Secondly, millions of conservatives voted for him in spite of that.

What the moderates don’t seem to understand is it’s not enough to be better than the other guy. I even agree with you that a 75% conservative is better than Obama. So what? Millions more people sat the election out because we didn’t give them something to enthusiastically support. You don’t inspire people to vote by saying the other guy sucks. I guess a lot of people just didn’t find Mitt to be much of an alternative.


42 posted on 11/22/2012 12:49:12 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: BlackElk

IMHO...

The Democratic Party is the party that first began to institutionally oppose the morality given in Scripture. This began in earnest most notably in the 1960’s, as it’s liberal coalition began to accept 1960’s radicals. One of the Democratic Party core values, arising from their foundation on secular humanist moral relativism, is their advocacy for any and all sorts of sexual immorality, including fornication, to be viewed simply as legal recreation.

Support for fornication as a so-called right is why the Democratic Party finds itself also to be the party of abortion. Without rampant fornication, abortion is not popular, since few would then have reason to even consider it.

The Republican party can’t supplant this “branding”, since the Democratic party claimed it first. The Republican party, as the Democratic party slid into that immoral morass over the last few decades, never before tried to follow it.

The more the Republican party tries to embrace immorality, the less relevant they will become, appearing to the voter as the “me too” party of decadence trying to emulate the “original” party of decadence.

This is why, IMHO, I think it’s wisest for conservatives to spend their efforts working on spreading the Gospel - which will incidentally provide a conservative tailwind - than on supporting so-called moderate Republicans.


43 posted on 11/22/2012 1:51:26 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: rhema

It will be interesting to see who they put up this time, they did make Christie the key-note speaker at the convention while shutting out Palin entirely.

I think they are well on their way in shaping 2016.


44 posted on 11/22/2012 1:55:20 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb FischerÂ’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Strategerist
Romney had more votes in Bible Belt states than Bush #2 did in 2004, and that’s with all the votes note yet counted, and including Texas, Bush’s home state.

The sorts of things you’d expect to see if there were millions of social conservatives rejecting RINOS simply don’t appear in the vote totals.

There you go again. Bringing inconvenient facts into the discussion.

45 posted on 11/22/2012 3:48:36 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Oak Grove
Poll: Evangelical Vote at Record High in Election

Wednesday, 07 Nov 2012

Evangelical voters reached a record high in Tuesday’s election, with 78 percent of white evangelicals supporting Republican Mitt Romney, a national survey has found.

The survey of 800 voters commissioned by the Faith and Freedom Coalition found that a record 27 percent of those who voted in the presidential election were evangelicals.

Romney’s 78 percent showing among white evangelicals was 10 points higher than Arizona Sen. John McCain’s in 2008.

“Evangelicals turned out in record numbers and voted as heavily for Mitt Romney yesterday as they did for George W. Bush in 2004,” said Ralph Reed, chairman of TK-based Faith and Freedom Coalition. “That is an astonishing outcome that few would have predicted even a few months ago.

http://www.newsmax.com/US/romney-evangelical-vote-obama/2012/11/07/id/463268

46 posted on 11/22/2012 4:02:28 PM PST by Ken H
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To: EternalVigilance
Noticed Rosanne Barr got more votes than you. Must suck to be beat by Mz Barr.

But, to be fair, you are in fact principled.

47 posted on 11/22/2012 6:13:59 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Drew68

Oh, wow. The Establishment put up a socialist, a lifetime abortion sympathizer, a Morman bishop whose only conservative cred was doing nice things for other Mormans, who annually tithed his four million, brought redistribution by way of health care to Massachusetts, and you get all warm and fuzzy over the Supreme Court affect on abortion, as your last arguement to blame real prolifers for not buying Romney’s schlick?

LOL!

You people drug a lot of us into the ballot box for this loser with the insults and the “sky is falling” mime.

Never again.

Done with the pubbies here, that’s for sure.

You will lose next time too if there is anyone who gets even near the nomination who isn’t conservative and owns a record to prove it.


48 posted on 11/22/2012 6:46:16 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

I so agree that some of us got the heavenly sign this election. Two non-Christians as candidates was a hint, and then we see a political victory go to the proud Marxist, which was more than a hint. I got the message. With the Gospel, the good nominees will come. Without re-evangelizing th US, we will never see good nominees again.


49 posted on 11/22/2012 7:19:30 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: RitaOK
Ralph Reed said there was record evangelical support for Romney. Other polls I've seen agree with him.

How did Romney manage to attract record evangelical support?

50 posted on 11/22/2012 7:26:17 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Ken H

I don’t know what to believe with polls anymore, but many of us caved in finally for Romney, given the slim chance the socialist on a Republican ticket could beat the Marxist, (after having been beaten about the head and shoulders for weeks) so, yes I suppose the so-called evangelical vote was fairly substantial. In a post Christian era, we see clearly that’s no longer enough, in the US.

I’m forced to look elsewhere, including at the Libertarians who have figured out that the social issues need to go back to the states. I am not opposed to that.


51 posted on 11/22/2012 8:36:56 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: rhema

Life must be the Litmus Test. Without it you have nothing else.


52 posted on 11/22/2012 8:37:45 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: RitaOK

a lifetime abortion sympathizer, and you get all warm and fuzzy over the Supreme Court affect on abortion, as your last arguement to blame real prolifers for not buying Romney’s schlick?

LOL!

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exACTLEEEEE


53 posted on 11/22/2012 9:17:21 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: rhema
They don't get that Reagan's "Big Tent" was not from sucking up to every splinter group, but from emphasizing what most of us have in common, and providing people with a plan to get there.

No top of the list contender has done that since, even though the hopeychangey guy has bamboozled people into thinking he has a plan (but you gotta pass it to know what's in it).

Reagan had one more advantage: The mediots didn't really want to take him on, because his following from previous careers was too large.

54 posted on 11/22/2012 10:11:02 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: rhema
Our last two-term Republican presidents were strong pro-lifers

Exactly what progress did they make toward ending legal abortions? Please be specific.

If all you require is that the candidate make appropriate sounding pro-life noises, rest assured that such persons will continue to be available.

55 posted on 11/22/2012 10:43:35 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Only liberals believe that people can be made virtuous via legislative enactment.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

>> If the GOP wants

Must not be a conditional.


56 posted on 11/22/2012 10:45:37 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: PieterCasparzen; EternalVigilance

Agreed 100%. The slogan “If it feels good, do it!” is not a motto for civilized men and women. It was a motto of the early Baby Boomer generation to which I belong and now we get to pay the price. God bless you and yours! See also EV’s #37 and its link, wisdom as always.


57 posted on 11/22/2012 11:15:19 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Broil 'em now!!!)
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To: Notary Sojac
Bush's record: Bush Had Best Pro-Life Record of Any President, Say Pro-Life Groups

Among Reagan's accomplishments:

**He supported legislation that would allow for a challenge of Roe vs. Wade. He adopted the "Mexico City Policy" halting federal aid to private groups promoting abortions abroad.
** His administration cut off funding to the United Nations Fund for Population Activities because the global agency violated U.S. law by participating in China's mandatory abortion program.
** His administration adopted regulations prohibiting federally funded "family planning clinics" from promoting abortion as birth control.
** The Reagan White House blocked use of federal money for research using the tissue of aborted babies.
** It helped win approval of the "Danforth Amendment," which said federally funded educational institutions could not be guilty of "sex discrimination" for refusing to pay for abortions.
** Reagan himself introduced the issue of fetal pain into the public debate over abortion.
**His administration was key in enactment of laws protecting the right to life of handicapped newborns.
** Reagan designated a National Sanctity of Human Life Day, to recognize the value of life at all stages.

** Reagan wrote Abortion and the Conscience of Nation

On the 10th anniversary of the Supreme Court's controversial 1973 decision legalizing abortion, President Ronald Reagan wrote a treatise celebrating life and challenging the nation to examine its soul regarding the procedure. It was a book that, had his advisers gotten their way, would never have been written.

William P. Clark, a national security adviser and secretary of the Interior Department under Reagan, told CNSNews.com the 40th president insisted that the publication of "Abortion and the Conscience of the Nation," a tome that began as an essay, was essential.

"He said, 'No, it's the truth, and we're going to go with it," said Clark, who wrote the book's foreword.

The book was a first in many ways. For one, it was the first book ever published by a sitting president. For another, it was a bold step politically. At the time of its publication, Reagan and his vice president, George H.W. Bush, were struggling to rebuild the nation's slumping economy and set to launch a re-election effort. Polls showed about half the nation backed abortion.

58 posted on 11/23/2012 7:05:21 AM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Ken H; RitaOK
How did Romney manage to attract record evangelical support?

His opponent is as anti-American as he can be, everything he does points to the fact that he is actually a pawn in a plot to destroy America.

When you think of how against America Obama's masters are, Romney's loss seems an impossibly poor showing. There never was a President more vulnerable to losing his re-election.

And yet Republican political operatives seem to think that abandoning Christianity is the way to go. They seem oblivious to the fact that the Democratic party has already staked out that territory as their own brand name.

What's next, a Republican "occupy" movement ? Republicans against capitalism ? Republicans for free condoms for kids ?

Hey all you highly-educated conservative elites: is religion just a club ? Should Republicans do a big race-pandering campaign ? Conservative elites and political operatives need to realize that it's not all about big finance and winning elections despite having no principles. IMHO, we need some new intellectual leaders.
59 posted on 11/23/2012 9:49:56 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

It is surreal what is passing for wisdom and truth today among Republicans. Rubio, for example can’t seem to decide whether to declare as a Catholic or a Protestant. My bet he will opt for Catholic in order to work the Hispanic vote and appear as an embattled Catholic fighting against the HHS mandate. Everything is leverage.


60 posted on 11/23/2012 10:10:09 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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