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Children of illegal immigrants deserve in-state tuition
Boston Globe ^ | November 22, 2012 | Editorial/Boston Globe

Posted on 11/22/2012 9:04:29 AM PST by moonshinner_09

Governor Patrick’s decision this week to allow certain illegal immigrants to qualify for in-state tuition rates at state universities is an important step toward resolving ambiguities in the federal immigration rules. The state now makes clear that young undocumented immigrants who have been granted reprieves from deportation by the federal government can utilize their newly acquired work permits as proof of state residency.

The change is more than a technical clarification. The United States has succeeded as a nation of immigrants because it has, more often than not, made assimilation and integration a part of the American experience. Giving immigrants access to an affordable education, one that will help them become successful members of society, is an important part of that story.

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonglobe.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: aliens; dreamact; immigration
If you notice here-Giving immigrants access to an affordable education, one that will help them become successful members of society, is an important part of that story- he refers to it as amnesty -2nd-This action does not confer citizenship, but it does allow recipients (those 30 and under who are in school or the military) to be eligible for work authorization cards. Why does this writer think illegals should have affordable education-we have enough people who do not have assess to affordable education.The majority of illegals essentially receive free college educations viva scholarships.Just because illegals have kids here illegally, America is not suppose to be the parents.
1 posted on 11/22/2012 9:04:36 AM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

Government Santa Claus Ho Ho Ho!

And the GOP will say me too, me too!


2 posted on 11/22/2012 9:07:56 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: moonshinner_09
If we give the children of illegal immigrants a college education, where will our future hotel maids, busboys, dishwashers and car wash workers come from?

/sarcasm

3 posted on 11/22/2012 9:12:29 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Obama Lied, Stevens died.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Why even bother with borders anymore? Why not just get rid of our borders with Canada and Mexico to become one super country and call ourselves Canusico. This is just pure madness. We’re the generation of Americans who sadly precipitated the disintegration of this great nation.


4 posted on 11/22/2012 9:13:50 AM PST by dowcaet
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To: moonshinner_09

I find it amazing that anyone could think foreign invaders deserve cheaper college educations than American citizens.


5 posted on 11/22/2012 9:14:54 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: moonshinner_09

The whole world wants in-state tuition:

In 1979, Deng Xiaoping [General Secretary of the Communist Party of China] arrived here on an official visit. China was emerging from the Cultural Revolution, and poised to embark on the capitalist road.

When President Carter sat down with Mr. Deng, he told him he was concerned over the right of the Chinese people to emigrate. The Jackson-Vanik amendment, Mr. Carter said, prohibited granting most favored nation trade status to regimes that did not allow their people to emigrate.

“Well, Mr. President,” Deng cheerfully replied, “Just how many Chinese do you want? Ten million. Twenty million. Thirty million?”

Deng’s answer stopped Carter cold. In a few words, the Chinese leader had driven home a point Mr. Carter seemed not to have grasped: Hundreds of millions of people would emigrate to America in an eyelash, far more than we could take in, far more than our existing population of 270 million...
- Pat Buchanan


6 posted on 11/22/2012 9:16:33 AM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: moonshinner_09

They “deserve” being handed over to child services whilst their criminal parents asses are deported back to Mexico.


7 posted on 11/22/2012 9:16:53 AM PST by Gaffer
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Children of illegal immigrants deserve in-state tuition

Correction: Children of illegal immigrants deserve to be deported swiftly yet humanely from the United States.

It is immoral to profit from the crimes of others.

8 posted on 11/22/2012 9:21:16 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: moonshinner_09

We all know that commie libs don’t like to spend THEIR OWN MONEY on their “causes” but my recommendation would be that the Boston Globe start a scholarship fund for illegal aliens. Otherwise, they should just shut the...up!


9 posted on 11/22/2012 9:21:47 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Amnesty - Obama's bailout of Mexico. Barry sticks it to America again!)
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To: moonshinner_09
This action does not confer citizenship, but it does allow recipients (those 30 and under who are in school or the military) to be eligible for work authorization cards.

Obama's actions are illegal and impeachable. He has circumvented Congress and the Constitution.

Illegal aliens cannot join the US military. And why are those in school given preference over illegals who did not go to college but are engaged in other kinds of labor that doesn't require a college degree? Will Patrick subsidize those who enter trade schools?

It is very easy to be generous with other people's money, i.e., the taxpayers'. We have 23 million legal residents of this country looking for fulltime employment. Obama's backdoor amnesty gives work permits to 1.8 million illegals. There are already an estimated 8 million illegals holding jobs now. And now to make matters worse, Lamar Smith is supporting increasing the number of green cards for skilled workers. Is anyone concerned about the American worker?

When you reward something, you get more of it.

10 posted on 11/22/2012 9:22:39 AM PST by kabar
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To: moonshinner_09

In these stories clearly is indicated the parents broke some laws to be able to live here. It says do not blame the kids,blame the parents, in doing this nothing ever happens to the parents, other than to say, yes they evaded law enforcement & used qustionable means to gain employment to live here.Blame the parents and the parents are never held accountable.Lot of good it does to blame parents,just empty words to make excuses for why illegals should get freebies and parents reap the rewards


11 posted on 11/22/2012 9:25:30 AM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

“deserve”? No

What should happen, at least, is do away with out-of-state tuition as it is already waived for the many foreign students who use our colleges.


12 posted on 11/22/2012 9:26:23 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: moonshinner_09
Why should we bend over and allow limitless immigration of uneducated zero skill welfare seekers while at the same forcing college educated whites and Asians to jump through years of hoops to even work here? Because they can't be reliably counted on to vote DemonRATic.
13 posted on 11/22/2012 9:28:46 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: moonshinner_09

The Rick Perry approach!


14 posted on 11/22/2012 9:30:23 AM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: chris37

Are the children of out-of-state rapists, murders, kidnappers and other felons also deserving of getting in-state tuition too?


15 posted on 11/22/2012 9:30:30 AM PST by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: moonshinner_09

When the topic first percolated up and came to my attention some few decades ago, I was dumbfounded that schools were under any obligation whatsoever to provide ANY education to illegal kids. They shouldn’t be here and there parents shouldn’t be here, and they shouldn’t receive any kind of taxpayer welfare or benefits at all.

Ah, how quaint it used to be, those days of actually expecting common-sense to rule the day.


16 posted on 11/22/2012 9:32:09 AM PST by greene66
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To: moonshinner_09

You and I know that the best way to deal with illegal immigration is to turn OFF the magnet, but the motive and goal of those pushing this is amnesty. This is just an incrimental step on the path to amnesty.


17 posted on 11/22/2012 9:37:55 AM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: moonshinner_09

They don’t deserve any tuition here.


18 posted on 11/22/2012 9:40:54 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: dowcaet

“Why not just get rid of our borders with Canada and Mexico to become one super country. . .?”

No, that would not work. We need to know the illegals in order to give them Most Favored Status.


19 posted on 11/22/2012 9:41:13 AM PST by stanne
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To: moonshinner_09

Too bad the folks who pay for it don’t deserve it.


20 posted on 11/22/2012 9:41:50 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: moonshinner_09

What does Mexico for children of people who illegally immigrate there?

We need to reframe the argument as, “All we want is to have the same immigration policy that Mexico has.”

Who could argue with that?


21 posted on 11/22/2012 9:45:35 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: moonshinner_09

It’s like someone breaking into your home with their family, and setting up in your basement.

You find them there and demand that they and there kids leave your property but you are then told by the mayor that the kids didnt do anything wrong, and their parents cant leave because it will split up the family, so they get to all stay and you will have to pay for the electricity and water that they use.


22 posted on 11/22/2012 9:47:07 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: <1/1,000,000th%; moonshinner_09

The headline says, “Children of illegal immigrants,” but the article is referring to kids who are illegal immigrants. The headline should call them illegal immigrants.

I live in Illinois. In 2003, the Illinois legislature passed a law that states that illegal aliens may attend stae universities and pay in-state tuition. Only one state senator voted no. That was a Republican, Chris Lauzen, and he’s part Hispanic.


23 posted on 11/22/2012 9:48:48 AM PST by PhilCollins
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To: bitterohiogunclinger
Asians voted more heavily for Obama than Hispanics. Asians voted 73-26 for Obama and Hispanics 71-27.

We already have about 2 million legal foreign workers here on temporary work visas now. We bring in 1.2 million legal permanent immigrants a year, 87% of whom are minorities as defined by the USG. Minorities and immigrants overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

By 2019 half of the children 18 and under in the U.S. will be classified as minorities and by 2042, half of the residents of this country will be minorities. Generally, immigrants and minorities vote predominantly for the Democrat Party. Hence, Democrats view immigration as a never-ending source of voters that will make them the permanent majority party.

The real question that needs to be asked is whether we need 1.2 million legal immigrants every year. There is no correlation between the number of jobs created and the number and types of legal immigrants. The decade ending in 2010 was the highest in our history in terms of the number of legal permanent immigrants admitted, 13.9 million, yet during that same period we suffered a net loss of jobs of 400,000. This is insanity.


24 posted on 11/22/2012 9:52:02 AM PST by kabar
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To: moonshinner_09

The plan is to get them into the indoctrination process and get them hooked.


25 posted on 11/22/2012 9:53:10 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment,a Matter of Fact,Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: moonshinner_09

BARF ALERT needed.


26 posted on 11/22/2012 9:56:11 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Statement: "Children of illegal immigrants deserve in-state tuition

Response: And free rent payments, free contraception. free medical care, free food, a free cell phone and computer, free clothing, free utilities and a "right" to vote three times in each election.

27 posted on 11/22/2012 9:56:44 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: moonshinner_09

Thus, the staff of the Boston Globe have all decided to tithe their paychecks, to create a fund to give grants to illegal aliens that wish to attend college. And they are being joined in this by Governor Patrick, who is donating a substantial amount of his income to this purpose as well.


28 posted on 11/22/2012 10:22:11 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: Hodar

Well yes, yes they are. They are innocent of their parents crime, and to not give those innocent children such benefits would be heartless...I mean according to the logic of our utterly insane ruling class that is.

According to Bobby Jindal, if we want people to like us then we have to like them first.


29 posted on 11/22/2012 10:31:28 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: GeronL

Well, only one particular group of Americans, namely, white males. There is affirmative action of some sort for every other group. There are race-based scholarships. There are athletic scholarships which mostly benefit black males. White males have to do it the old-fashioned way-pay their way and make the grades.

Unless they’re majoring in the hard disciplines, college is just indoctrination anyway. White males are mostly represented in those kinds of courses. Somebody has to actually learn the stuff that keeps the nation functioning. There won’t be enough jobs for all the Samoan transgender midget womyn’s studies majors.


30 posted on 11/22/2012 10:52:19 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: PhilCollins

And the definition of a “kid” is extremely elastic these days. A 26 yo is defined as a “kid” qualified to be on his parents health insurance. A 30 yo woman who shows her azz and publishes it for all the world to see is called a “girl”.


31 posted on 11/22/2012 10:57:07 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: mrsmel

When I said, “kids,” I meant “minors,” since people who apply for college are usually 17 or 18.


32 posted on 11/22/2012 11:13:18 AM PST by PhilCollins
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To: moonshinner_09

BS. They deserve to be taken back to their home countries. This amnesty crap will end badly for all of us.


33 posted on 11/22/2012 11:21:17 AM PST by ABQHispConservative (Only fake Christians vote or are Democrats.)
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To: GeronL

How many will go back home after piling up a ton of student loan debt (US Gov’t backed) and finding out they can’t find a job here.. or will they get preferential hiring too like Holders people?


34 posted on 11/22/2012 2:23:56 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: moonshinner_09

By the same token, any child born in a state with fewer colleges available, such as Wyoming or Nevada, (through “no fault of their own”), “deserves” to be given “in-state” tuition to colleges in college-rich states such as California.


35 posted on 11/22/2012 4:17:21 PM PST by Anima Mundi (Envy is just passive, lazy greed.)
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To: Theoria
The Rick Perry approach!

Rick's a trend setter.

36 posted on 11/22/2012 4:29:52 PM PST by TADSLOS (LOSING BIG- The GOP legacy.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Got a better idea. Give the children of American Citizens and legal immigrants an “affordable education” then see what leftovers are available for the children of invading barbarians.


37 posted on 11/22/2012 4:31:27 PM PST by Little Ray (I have VOTED AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: chris37

With rights come responsibilities.

Let’s re-instate a draft, and then watch as these “children of undocumented
immigrants” mysteriously disappear when something is asked of them. I and my family either have served, are serving, or are willing to die defending our country. We have a vested interest, we all have jobs,we work, we pay taxes and raise our families.

If someone wants something from the Gov’t; I say that they should be also willing to sacrifice for the sake of our country and Gov’t - and that sacrifice may mean time spent in a foreign land, being wounded or making the ultimate sacrifice.

Unfortunately, I would bet you a steak dinner at the restaurant of your choice, that many of these so-called friends would sneak back across the border if asked to protect this country they so desperately want to live off of. Let’s call them what they are - parasites.

If they are willing to serve a tour of duty, the same as any of our bravest and best - by all means, move them to the front of the line and grant them citizenship the day they have completed their first tour. If not - they need to go home.


38 posted on 11/22/2012 8:24:41 PM PST by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Hodar

I agree with your post outright.

I do think that a great majority would indeed return to where they came fomr rather than defedn, but to those who would put their life on the line for American freedom, I must say that I would be in favor of granting citizenship to them.

Honestly, to me that is a fantastic idea.


39 posted on 11/22/2012 8:34:55 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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