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Op-Ed: Peace is a Special Language We All Must Learn to Speak (Barfalicious, Malnutritious)
Arutz Sheva ^ | 25/11/12 | Ece Koc

Posted on 11/25/2012 3:28:46 PM PST by Eleutheria5

Everyone has an opinion about the conflict between Israel and Palestinians. Some say that Palestinians started it with their rockets aimed at Israel territory, while others say that Israel was using disproportionate force and killing innocent people in Gaza. These points have been debated in the media all over the world.

We must realize that following the same paths of hatred and rage will always lead to the same results - pain for both parties, people dying on both sides and a life of fear with no ability to see the hope for the future. It is time for everyone to realize that the solution lies elsewhere.

The solution lies in adopting a humane approach based on the morals of religion. Both Judaism and Islam command love. Both parties should agree not to permit terrorist activities. ....

Palestinian Arabs need to know that firing rockets at Israel is incompatible with Islam, and that Islam is a religion of peace that forbids the killing of others. In this respect it is really hard to understand what benefit Palestinian Arabs are seeking to achieve with those rocket attacks. Firing rockets and killing people is of no advantage to them. As a consequence the Israelis say that they have the right to defend themselves and then start firing back. This mentality has never done any good for decades.

If you ask those who send the missiles what they are doing they will probably say that this is "jihad." Yes, the concept of jihad does exist in Islam. But the word "jihad" means "to strive, to make an effort". It means to approach people with love and compassion and to win them over with scientific and intellectual evidence.... .....

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gaza; interfaith; islam; rop
"The writer, a Muslim, sees Islam as a religion of peace The only conflict permitted in the Qur'an, she says, is an intellectual struggle, and the only time Islam permits war is when it is defensive and a last resort."

"Ece Koc, Turkish TV The writer is an interfaith activist and peace advocate, is an economist and a host on the "Building Bridges" show on Turkey's A9TV satellite television channel"

Is there some other religion called Islam we've never heard about? Tell it to the Imams, lady. They're saying something different.

1 posted on 11/25/2012 3:28:57 PM PST by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5
The writer, a Muslim, sees Islam as a religion of peace The only conflict permitted in the Qur'an

Off with her head!

2 posted on 11/25/2012 3:34:07 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: Eleutheria5

Poor girl. Here’s hoping that she stays in the free parts of the world where she won’t be stoned to death for speaking her mind, which the Imams will interpret as blaspheming Islam.


3 posted on 11/25/2012 3:37:21 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Eleutheria5

More than 3 G_D D_mned countries a6tacked Israel in 1967 and Israel have back most of the freeking land they won the war after fighting back...

That moves them over to the “saints” column in my book.

If the other Countries attack Israel again and Israel gets more territory THEY SHOULD NOT GIVE IT BACK...

They should empty it and build a damn wall around it and settle it and put an iron dome on top.

They should never give back precious ground EVER again!

Never show well intentioned weakness AGAIN, EVER!!!


4 posted on 11/25/2012 3:47:28 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Eleutheria5

A. we want peace
B. we love death more than you love life
C. we want peace


5 posted on 11/25/2012 3:50:01 PM PST by dontreadthis
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To: Eleutheria5

Well, this chap (if it’s a chap) might want to read a Koran to get a clue. Islammies aren’t SUPPOSED to be nice to “infidels.” This isn’t like the way that Jews generally try to make nice with such as Buddhists, Christians, Shintoists, and atheists.


6 posted on 11/25/2012 3:53:53 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Eleutheria5
Is there some other religion called Islam we've never heard about?

Put simply, no.

mohammedanism, or as the enemy calls it "islam" is an excuse for the blood thirsty, rapacious and belligerent to indulge their bestial nature with the approval of an imaginary deity created by an illiterate thief and murderer to convince the weak minded that his rape of women and children, murder of innocents and wholesale destruction was sanctioned by some "god".

To suggest there is anything peaceful in the creation of the madman mohammed is an outright lie of the lowest kind. And this "lady" knows it. She is indulging in that peculiarly mohammedan activity known as Taqiyya, or bald face lying to advance the cause of mohammedanism.
7 posted on 11/25/2012 3:56:37 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (John Winthrop's "City upon a Hill" just became a midden heap. Infested with rats and other vermin.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

Yup. Now some still say today that the Koran is a book fabricated by a committee, but it makes more sense to me as a more-or-less honest diary of a demented man.


8 posted on 11/25/2012 4:00:16 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Eleutheria5; Candor7; little jeremiah
...If we approach things in a spirit of peace and brotherhood, those lands really can be turned into an abode of peace, and there will be no more need for those walls. Turkey and the Islamic world must become involved now. An Islamic Peace Force could be set up to intervene right at the start of bombings or rocket attacks so that the other side does not have to defend itself and retaliate. What we need is unity.

She's Turkish. I think she's giving voice to a Turkish fantasy...the restoration of the Ottoman Empire through an Islamic Peace Force...she's not just a pretty face, she's a mouthpiece.


9 posted on 11/25/2012 4:21:49 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Eleutheria5

There’s no dealing with this idiot, deathly dangerous, ignorant mind set.


10 posted on 11/25/2012 4:22:28 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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11 posted on 11/25/2012 4:23:15 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Eleutheria5

12 posted on 11/25/2012 4:46:07 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: onyx
Is it possible that her 'deathly dangerous, ignorant mindset' comes from what muslim women are taught?

I have long been under the impression there are two kinds of islam, one for the men and one for the women. I have never seen a female face in the audience of a fanatical cleric - or even listening to a cleric in a mosque, has anyone?

And why are the women so surprised (especially the daughters) when daddy cuts their throat for being seen talking to a boy, or wearing jeans or make-up for example...as happens far too often. Those who survive always act so surprised that daddy could have tried to kill them. We are inclined to think, she should have known...but what if she didn't know, what if the women are not meant to know?

Maybe what muslim women know about islam stops at mohammad's triumphant return to Mecca as depicted in the film The Message which was produced in 1977 in both an arabic and an english version, the english version starring Anthony Quinn as one of the main characters. Mohammad, whose face is of course never depicted, is none the less presented akin to the second coming of Jesus, there are shades of the Ten Commandments and after viewing all three YOUTUBE episodes, the entire fabricated story comes across pretty much as this woman describes him and islam...he's as soft as a bunny wabbit and cuddly as a kitten and full of LOVE

THE MESSAGE VIDEO X 3

Don't let the title throw you, it's got nothing to do with the trailer of the same name, who-ever downloaded the film onto YOUTUBE obviously intended to deceive. Anyone interested in how the 'prophet' and his gang of butchers and looters could end up being presented as a dopple-ganger for Jesus and his disciples, needs to see this.

13 posted on 11/25/2012 5:02:59 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Eleutheria5

(Barfalicious, Malnutritious)


LOL! That might be putting it mildly. : )


14 posted on 11/25/2012 5:10:25 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Eleutheria5

Everyone should pray for peace. However, peace is not the absence of conflict. If in the absence of conflict one is living in fear, is living under subjugation, is being persecuted, is hungry, living is poverty, has no job, etc. there is no peace.


15 posted on 11/25/2012 5:13:41 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Eleutheria5

https://mobile.twitter.com/EceKoc2012/status/270871977735098368


16 posted on 11/25/2012 5:15:59 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Fred Nerks

EXCELLENT POINT! I’ve often pondered “why” women follow Islam! I think you’ve provided the answer! I’ll watch the video before I go to sleep.


17 posted on 11/25/2012 6:08:23 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Eleutheria5
Both Judaism and Islam command love.

Really....?

18 posted on 11/25/2012 6:18:19 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: Fred Nerks

She looks like something masquerading as a human being.


19 posted on 11/25/2012 7:02:51 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Eleutheria5

I say to the Palestinians “Peace on you!”


20 posted on 11/25/2012 7:20:55 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: little jeremiah

She’s a muslim woman, that makes her a mushroom, she’s been fed on fertilizer and kept in the dark. She’s allowed to speak only when she says what she’s told to say, and if Turkey slips any further into a theocracy, she’ll be wearing a burkah soon enough.


21 posted on 11/25/2012 7:27:24 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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22 posted on 11/26/2012 5:27:24 AM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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24 posted on 11/26/2012 5:29:08 AM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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To: Eleutheria5

Peace is only achieved through the defeat of evil.


25 posted on 11/26/2012 9:57:40 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: onyx

“Yes, the concept of jihad does exist in Islam. But the word “jihad” means “to strive, to make an effort”. It means to approach people with love and compassion and to win them over with scientific and intellectual evidence”

As seen in videos of Jeff Pearl’s beheading. Scientific evidence. He admitted to being Jewish, and his head looked physically different than those of Hindus, Buddhists and Christians that they’d decapitated. Thereby proving that he is the son of pigs and monkeys.


26 posted on 11/26/2012 2:16:53 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5; Fred Nerks

I haven’t had time to watch the 57 minute video.

I have nothing but contempt for for Islam, and that’s putting it mildly.


27 posted on 11/26/2012 3:29:38 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: onyx

I think you’re supposed to watch it, get such a big boner for this chick that she starts sounding as if she makes sense, and then convert to Islam, or at least buy this crap about it being the ROP, and get lulled into passivity.

Perhaps this is the answer, though. Have a real hot number go on TV and talk about what evil drivel Islam is, and how anyone with a lick of sense would abandon that sick death cult and *tsk* follow me, teehee, and then show her wiggle walking away.

Do it in Arabic, Turkish, Farsi and Urdu, so they’ll all get the message. Christians, Scientologists and even Buddhists can produce a video like that.


28 posted on 11/26/2012 4:13:10 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: onyx

You probably won’t miss much if you don’t watch it, it’s just 57 minutes of trying to sell islam as one of the three great religions blah blah blah...and tells us that the warlord-pirate-parasite isn’t much different from Jesus. Allah is God dontcha-know.
It all made me want to smash my computer screen.

But it’s none-the-less dangerous. Anyone who hasn’t woken up yet is going to see this in the light of WE are the bigots. It’s Disney/islam.


29 posted on 11/26/2012 4:51:14 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Eleutheria5; Fred Nerks

Like Nazi propaganda from a Moslem chick...Lord, have mercy.
EVIL. ROP my aching arse. Uttering those idiot words were one of GWB’s biggest mistakes. All of my family and friends knew different.

I’ll try to watch late tonight when I’m the only one awake.


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