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On Obamacare, I Won't Comply
Townhall.com ^ | November 26, 2012 | John Ransom

Posted on 11/26/2012 6:19:32 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: pgkdan

I’m Catholic. It won’t be the first time we’ve been arrested for practicing our faith.


21 posted on 11/26/2012 7:51:41 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: JCBreckenridge

“I won’t comply either.”

Neither will I, and here’s another way to describe that noncomplance.

Remember when Nazi Pelosi said, “Hey, quit your job, start a band, be an artist, live, love and be happy—free health care!”? (In her inimitable ditzy manner.)
http://www.saveyourrights.com/healthcare/nancy-pelosi-touting-free-healthcare-to-some-to-be-paid-by-the-rest-of-us/

It’s our answer to Cloward-Piven. They aren’t expecting those of us who are producers to put down our tools and keyboards and climb on board the `gravy train’ with their people. Call it `going mini-Galt’ or whatever.
The sun eventually goes down in the west, regardless of quantitative easing (or whatever they want to call patching a muffler with duct tape) and the cows make their way home and the chickens eventually roost.
This just speeds up the process. Zero will blame blame Bush but the whole house of cards of collapses, and it doesn’t take long. The left becomes irrelevant since “a hungry stomach knows no politics.”
Those of us who remember how to work, well, we start over and we don’t make the same mistakes again so that we don’t wind up with another “Great Society.” You don’t work, you don’t eat. Period.


22 posted on 11/26/2012 8:03:06 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice

Oh, I’ve actually gone Galt. I work enough to meet my needs.


23 posted on 11/26/2012 8:09:17 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: NCC-1701

Politically speaking it would never be repealed. What they would do is modify it and gut it of as many obamacare key provisions as possible based on votes available. They would leave pieces like pre-existing conditions, allow insurance companies to cross state lines. While the pre-existing conditions portion is costly you will never get rid of it now. Too late. Unfortunately that’s where we are - in the best case model.


24 posted on 11/26/2012 8:21:06 AM PST by plain talk
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To: NCC-1701

Politically speaking it would never be repealed. What they would do is modify it and gut it of as many obamacare key provisions as possible based on votes available. They would leave pieces like pre-existing conditions, allow insurance companies to cross state lines. While the pre-existing conditions portion is costly you will never get rid of it now. Too late. Unfortunately that’s where we are - in the best case model.


25 posted on 11/26/2012 8:22:50 AM PST by plain talk
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To: JCBreckenridge

Same here.
I used to drive by a basketball court on my way in to work and see guys about my age playing round-ball, going and coming, others with fishing poles.
And I would think, “That’s OK, I’ve got health insurance.”
Now I’m self-employed, like you working enough to pay bills, and I’ll see the same thing and they will have `health insurance.’
Well, they can find someone else to pay for it. To hell with “social justice” and “re-distribution.”


26 posted on 11/26/2012 8:33:36 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Kaslin

Many of us will not comply


27 posted on 11/26/2012 8:34:05 AM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: Don Corleone

*****”Let them throw me in jail for non-compliance. I’m old,I’ll cash out my retirement and give it to my kids and go to jail where I’ll get three squares, free room and medical, TV and clothing. Yeah! Throw me into the briarpatch there Br’er Fox.”******

It is my Retirement Plan

TT


28 posted on 11/26/2012 8:46:48 AM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: brownsfan

“Those who stayed home are stupid, plain and simple.”

How does calling people stupid win them over to our side? That’s stupid.


29 posted on 11/26/2012 8:55:18 AM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: sickoflibs
The individual mandate for the first few years is only $95 per year

Pay a tax for NOT buying something just does not sound American.
30 posted on 11/26/2012 8:55:29 AM PST by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: Owl558

“How does calling people stupid win them over to our side? That’s stupid.”

And what do you seek to win? How do you define a win? Bend to the will of the uneducated masses as Jindal and Rubio wish for us to do?

Or are you saying that those that stayed home because Romney wasn’t pure enough aren’t really stupid, and that Obama is no worse than Romney? Do you really want to engage in that debate?

Are you saying that if the proper conservative is offered up, then these people will be motivated? And you’d like me to refrain from accurately describing those who would make the perfect the enemy of the good?

No sale.


31 posted on 11/26/2012 9:03:07 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: tumblindice
Yep, self employed and I have made enough for the year to survive, taking December off to relax and do some capital investments with what little I might be taxed on. I will invest in my rentals, my Sep-IRA and my husbands IRA and take the risk of losing in the stock market before I will send one dime to DC.

I am going to invest my money in American business and take the risk of a bad economy before I will "invest" in our Marxist government.

32 posted on 11/26/2012 9:03:35 AM PST by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: Foolsgold; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; ...
RE :”The individual mandate for the first few years is only $95 per year
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Pay a tax for NOT buying something just does not sound American.”

Practically its not all that much different than giving you a ‘tax credit’ for doing something and then raising every-ones taxes by a similar amount so only those who don't do it pay the higher taxes.

Here in lib Maryland a neighbor gets a forced subsidy from the power company (~ 2K per year) mandated by state law for using solar panels, and the company just raises our rates to pay for it. Practically we are being fined there but they dont call it that, its hidden.
They also gave him ‘tax credits’ in the first place for buying the panels while they raised a number of our taxes at the same time. So he buys the panels and we pay (him) for our not buying them.

The Obama-care mandate fine/tax is similar to those examples practically except Obama wanted to claim its a fine and not a tax to avoid more resistance to it.

My point is we are already serfs, it's just the other cases are better hidden.

BTW : The R candidate Romney was the first to implement that 'unAmerican' idea.

33 posted on 11/26/2012 9:28:30 AM PST by sickoflibs (Has Bohner caved to Obama again yet?)
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To: Kaslin

34 posted on 11/26/2012 9:43:05 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: sickoflibs

I agree. Have you ever tried to make a twenty something do anything? Can’t be done. Millions of these kids just will do the passive agressive thing and not sign up. Sadly that is what Obama and his merry band of criminals (the Democrat legislature) are banking on. They don’t really want everyone covered by insurance. What they really want is the penalty/tax. They are praying millions don’t sign up because then they can collect revenues without having to pay out new expenditures for treatment.

As Carville would say “its a tax stupid”


35 posted on 11/26/2012 9:48:03 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: sickoflibs

I agree. Have you ever tried to make a twenty something do anything? Can’t be done. Millions of these kids just will do the passive agressive thing and not sign up. Sadly that is what Obama and his merry band of criminals (the Democrat legislature) are banking on. They don’t really want everyone covered by insurance. What they really want is the penalty/tax. They are praying millions don’t sign up because then they can collect revenues without having to pay out new expenditures for treatment.

As Carville would say “its a tax stupid”


36 posted on 11/26/2012 9:48:03 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Would have to hire a lot of security personnell to keep the drug cartel away.


37 posted on 11/26/2012 9:48:36 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: pgkdan

Until they change the rules the IRS supposedly can’t go after you for not paying the insurance tax the way they can FIT. So I plan on just paying FIT and making sure I’m not due any return that they can deduct the insurance tax from.


38 posted on 11/26/2012 9:53:22 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Georgia Girl 2
RE :”I agree. Have you ever tried to make a twenty something do anything? Can’t be done. Millions of these kids just will do the passive agressive thing and not sign up. Sadly that is what Obama and his merry band of criminals (the Democrat legislature) are banking on. They don’t really want everyone covered by insurance. What they really want is the penalty/tax. They are praying millions don’t sign up because then they can collect revenues without having to pay out new expenditures for treatment.”

Close but not exactly. It's worse than that.

NYS imposed a ban on pre-existing conditions without the mandate and so young people just didnt sign up until they were sick. That in effect raised the price and encouraged more to do the same raising the price even more. It was a disaster but these are the same fools who think price controls in an emergency help them.

So at the national level the private companies get bankrupted because the fine is so small and so people wait till they are sick to buy insurance, or the rising price drives more ininsured,
And that will be used to get voters to demand FURTHER expansion of Obama-care-medicaid to even higher incomes, for compassion and fairness. Its called ‘single payer’ what the libs wanted to begin with.

39 posted on 11/26/2012 9:58:19 AM PST by sickoflibs (Has Bohner caved to Obama again yet?)
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To: sickoflibs

Yes the final Progressive objective is to get rid of private health insurance.


40 posted on 11/26/2012 10:01:17 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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