Posted on 11/26/2012 6:19:32 AM PST by Kaslin
Americans know instinctively that when liberals start talking about deficit reduction that’s it’s just a case of the fantods, as Huckleberry Finn would say. And say what you will about old Huck, but he knew a couple of frauds when he saw them.
No matter what liberal “Wonks” like Ezra Klein say about the historically dumb healthcare “reform” known as Obamcare, Americans are uneasy about it.
And they should be.
The best thing- as Democrat strategist James Carville admitted last year- that could have happened for the Democrats is for the Supreme Court to have tossed out the landmark legislation that bears Obama's name.
But that didn't happen, so now the Democrats are stuck trying to make another bad law work.
Obamacare supporters like Ezra Klein, instead of trying to fix the problem continue to play dirty pool when it comes to healthcare reform. They now count it as a deficit fighter, when in fact, it’s no such thing.
Unless of course you count any bill with a tax increase in it as a deficit fighter. A defense contract could be a deficit fighter too, if a defense contract was designed just like Obamacare.
Here let me show you the slight of hand that liberals did to claim Obamacare fights the deficit.
Say, for example, that when we decommission the old Nimitz-class carriers we then replace them with the newer Gerald Ford class of carriers at $15 billion a clip. Let’s say, in this example, that we then raise taxes 3.8 percent on people who go over a certain income limit, to an extent that we not only pay for each carrier but we also create a surplus of $100 billion that we can apply to the deficit- just as they did in Obamcare. Actually in the case of the aircraft carriers, the exact same tax increase that the used for Obamacare would pay for the carriers and leave a surplus of $180 billion over the same period, almost twice what Obamacare claims.
Then we could pass both the replacement aircraft carrier budget authorization and the tax increase in one bundle- just as they did with Obamacare- and call it the The American Affordable Defense Act (AADA).
Then any time someone threatens to scrap the Ford class carriers we could cry out “But getting rid of the AADA would add to the deficit!”
While the typical American doesn’t necessarily know the ins and outs of Obamacare, the same confidence game has been played on them so may times that they are wise to it.
Counting on public stupidity to see a massive new spending program, like Obamacare, as some sort of deficit fighter, because THEY SAY IT IS, just shows you how weak the original case for Obamacare was in the first place.
And only in Washington can you start off entitlement reform that’s supposed to reduce spending, by ushering in a massive new government program that will greatly grow government spending. And then pat yourself on the back for it.
Wasn’t it the same type of entitlement Ponzi scheme that gave us the problem in the first place?
Wonks and politicians may not see it, but those guys are in the process of self term-limiting out of business anyway- either by votes or by pageviews. 2010 was just a preview, not a conclusion even accepting the standstill in the 2012 election.
Readers know that I hate to pick on the Washington Post this way, but I don’t know anyone who would willingly call themselves a wonk in the first place. The Post’s Wonk brand is stuck in the Way-Back Machine of the 1990s.
The Wonk Disneyland, known as DC, is exactly what gets us these kinds of political and mathematical ruses that pass for solutions these day. The only choice we will have soon is to stop complying with fefderal mandates like Obamacare.
Bceause Americans continue to favor repeal of Obamacare.
The Supreme Court decision calling Obamacare a tax will likely reinforce the opinion that it’s a flawed piece of legislation that greatly expands government bureaucracy at a time when Americans think that government is doing too much not too little.
You can pass Obamacare as a deficit measure and call it Constitutional -and then wonk about it all you want. But Americans know the truth.
Obamacare, like the tax on tea that saw a load of it dumped into Boston Harbor in 1773, is just plain dumb. And both also go against natural law.
I won't comply.
I’m Catholic. It won’t be the first time we’ve been arrested for practicing our faith.
“I won’t comply either.”
Neither will I, and here’s another way to describe that noncomplance.
Remember when Nazi Pelosi said, “Hey, quit your job, start a band, be an artist, live, love and be happy—free health care!”? (In her inimitable ditzy manner.)
http://www.saveyourrights.com/healthcare/nancy-pelosi-touting-free-healthcare-to-some-to-be-paid-by-the-rest-of-us/
It’s our answer to Cloward-Piven. They aren’t expecting those of us who are producers to put down our tools and keyboards and climb on board the `gravy train’ with their people. Call it `going mini-Galt’ or whatever.
The sun eventually goes down in the west, regardless of quantitative easing (or whatever they want to call patching a muffler with duct tape) and the cows make their way home and the chickens eventually roost.
This just speeds up the process. Zero will blame blame Bush but the whole house of cards of collapses, and it doesn’t take long. The left becomes irrelevant since “a hungry stomach knows no politics.”
Those of us who remember how to work, well, we start over and we don’t make the same mistakes again so that we don’t wind up with another “Great Society.” You don’t work, you don’t eat. Period.
Oh, I’ve actually gone Galt. I work enough to meet my needs.
Politically speaking it would never be repealed. What they would do is modify it and gut it of as many obamacare key provisions as possible based on votes available. They would leave pieces like pre-existing conditions, allow insurance companies to cross state lines. While the pre-existing conditions portion is costly you will never get rid of it now. Too late. Unfortunately that’s where we are - in the best case model.
Politically speaking it would never be repealed. What they would do is modify it and gut it of as many obamacare key provisions as possible based on votes available. They would leave pieces like pre-existing conditions, allow insurance companies to cross state lines. While the pre-existing conditions portion is costly you will never get rid of it now. Too late. Unfortunately that’s where we are - in the best case model.
Same here.
I used to drive by a basketball court on my way in to work and see guys about my age playing round-ball, going and coming, others with fishing poles.
And I would think, “That’s OK, I’ve got health insurance.”
Now I’m self-employed, like you working enough to pay bills, and I’ll see the same thing and they will have `health insurance.’
Well, they can find someone else to pay for it. To hell with “social justice” and “re-distribution.”
Many of us will not comply
*****”Let them throw me in jail for non-compliance. I’m old,I’ll cash out my retirement and give it to my kids and go to jail where I’ll get three squares, free room and medical, TV and clothing. Yeah! Throw me into the briarpatch there Br’er Fox.”******
It is my Retirement Plan
TT
“Those who stayed home are stupid, plain and simple.”
How does calling people stupid win them over to our side? That’s stupid.
“How does calling people stupid win them over to our side? That’s stupid.”
And what do you seek to win? How do you define a win? Bend to the will of the uneducated masses as Jindal and Rubio wish for us to do?
Or are you saying that those that stayed home because Romney wasn’t pure enough aren’t really stupid, and that Obama is no worse than Romney? Do you really want to engage in that debate?
Are you saying that if the proper conservative is offered up, then these people will be motivated? And you’d like me to refrain from accurately describing those who would make the perfect the enemy of the good?
No sale.
I am going to invest my money in American business and take the risk of a bad economy before I will "invest" in our Marxist government.
Practically its not all that much different than giving you a ‘tax credit’ for doing something and then raising every-ones taxes by a similar amount so only those who don't do it pay the higher taxes.
Here in lib Maryland a neighbor gets a forced subsidy from the power company (~ 2K per year) mandated by state law for using solar panels, and the company just raises our rates to pay for it. Practically we are being fined there but they dont call it that, its hidden.
They also gave him ‘tax credits’ in the first place for buying the panels while they raised a number of our taxes at the same time. So he buys the panels and we pay (him) for our not buying them.
The Obama-care mandate fine/tax is similar to those examples practically except Obama wanted to claim its a fine and not a tax to avoid more resistance to it.
My point is we are already serfs, it's just the other cases are better hidden.
BTW : The R candidate Romney was the first to implement that 'unAmerican' idea.
I agree. Have you ever tried to make a twenty something do anything? Can’t be done. Millions of these kids just will do the passive agressive thing and not sign up. Sadly that is what Obama and his merry band of criminals (the Democrat legislature) are banking on. They don’t really want everyone covered by insurance. What they really want is the penalty/tax. They are praying millions don’t sign up because then they can collect revenues without having to pay out new expenditures for treatment.
As Carville would say “its a tax stupid”
I agree. Have you ever tried to make a twenty something do anything? Can’t be done. Millions of these kids just will do the passive agressive thing and not sign up. Sadly that is what Obama and his merry band of criminals (the Democrat legislature) are banking on. They don’t really want everyone covered by insurance. What they really want is the penalty/tax. They are praying millions don’t sign up because then they can collect revenues without having to pay out new expenditures for treatment.
As Carville would say “its a tax stupid”
Would have to hire a lot of security personnell to keep the drug cartel away.
Until they change the rules the IRS supposedly can’t go after you for not paying the insurance tax the way they can FIT. So I plan on just paying FIT and making sure I’m not due any return that they can deduct the insurance tax from.
Close but not exactly. It's worse than that.
NYS imposed a ban on pre-existing conditions without the mandate and so young people just didnt sign up until they were sick. That in effect raised the price and encouraged more to do the same raising the price even more. It was a disaster but these are the same fools who think price controls in an emergency help them.
So at the national level the private companies get bankrupted because the fine is so small and so people wait till they are sick to buy insurance, or the rising price drives more ininsured,
And that will be used to get voters to demand FURTHER expansion of Obama-care-medicaid to even higher incomes, for compassion and fairness. Its called ‘single payer’ what the libs wanted to begin with.
Yes the final Progressive objective is to get rid of private health insurance.
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