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The Next Mitt Romney:GOP Establishment trumpets another Great Moderate Hope -- Jeb Bush
am spectator ^ | 11/27/12 | j lord

Posted on 11/27/2012 7:22:56 AM PST by bestintxas

Edited on 11/27/2012 7:28:57 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: gdani

I live in NYS. “Jeb” does not need my vote.

Stay out Da Bushes!


51 posted on 11/27/2012 8:30:33 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote
We need a "young gun" candidate who is willing to fight.

If you poke a dragon there is a chance you'll get burned.

I site Sarah's 2008 convention speech and Newts "gotcha questions" from the primary debates. The media went into blitzkrieg-mode on both of them but, the voting public absolutely loved it.
52 posted on 11/27/2012 8:33:04 AM PST by John 3_19-21 (Stand for something or fall for anything.)
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To: Breto

Those that run the Republican Party are idiots. Can’t they find better candidates than McCain and Romney. First of all - you aren’t going to get many Democrats or Independants to vote for another Bush - ain’t gonna happen.

What the party needs to do is focus on the new Republicans - Cantor, Ryan, Rubio, Rand Paul and Jindal to name a few. The party needs to also focus on a youth movement - it seems that Republicans are the party of the “Old”. Lets get some new faces into play and instead of trying to figure out “what went wrong” try to figure out - what went right and build on that. Start today building a future.


53 posted on 11/27/2012 8:33:18 AM PST by qwicwted
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To: John 3_19-21

All of these milqetoast types need to go.


54 posted on 11/27/2012 8:36:00 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: svcw

Like he speaks Mandarin. Good grief. You don’t know Spanish or you would know he does not speak the language. It was all a fool’s game for people like you.


55 posted on 11/27/2012 8:39:21 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: SoFloFreeper

You misunderstood me. I don’t care whether or not Jeb was a good governor or not in context — if he was a good governor then good for him and FL but in the larger sense that still means squat when talking about the presidency — he is a RINO and a progressive much like his family and this country doesn’t need that now. Chris Christie is fine for NJ but no one out her really wants him to be President either


56 posted on 11/27/2012 8:44:26 AM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: bestintxas

Insane!


57 posted on 11/27/2012 8:44:50 AM PST by hope
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To: bestintxas

2000: George is not his father. He’s really a conservative. Trust us you will be pleased with him.

2012: Jeb is not George. He’s really a conservative.
Trust us, you will be pleased with him.


58 posted on 11/27/2012 8:45:26 AM PST by DManA
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To: GlockThe Vote

Retch! Heave! Hurl! Bleahh! Arghhh!

I mean, the Bushes are decent & honorable, but that don’t cut it in the age of Obama, enough’s enough!


59 posted on 11/27/2012 8:46:40 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

“I see Bush/Rubio as the ticket,”

You can’t be serious.

Just how many times has a party every nominated both on the ticket from the same state?

Political suicide.


60 posted on 11/27/2012 8:50:40 AM PST by bestintxas (Anyone who votes for Obama after these 4 miserable years needs to take a mandatory citizenship test.)
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To: bestintxas

NEVER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


61 posted on 11/27/2012 8:54:15 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
For the millionth time, Rubio cannot run for president.

Since Obama has been president for over 3 years now, and his father was Kenyan, that whole question is moot.

62 posted on 11/27/2012 8:54:44 AM PST by NathanR
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To: bestintxas

Whoever it is, he should get out now and stridently attack the Commie DumBO. And, if you think ZerO won’t be running again you are naive or the One will have declared himself Pres__ent for life by UN treaty.

Allen West would be my choice.


63 posted on 11/27/2012 8:54:50 AM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: bestintxas
Actually, under the Twelfth Amendment, the Electors from Florida could not vote for that ticket.

Frankly, Jeb Bush would be the worst possible candidate for the Republicans to nominate. There are all sorts of reasons why the base would not support him. To give him the benefit of the doubt: I am sure that he is a nice man--just not focused on key points. I could not, as one sworn to uphold the Constitution, vote for him.

But that said, I believe it is a profound mistake for people to be lining up for any candidate this early.

William Flax

64 posted on 11/27/2012 9:00:21 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: bestintxas
No more Bushes.

For 2016, I'm in favor of Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, for three main reasons:

1) He's a fighter. He successfully led the Republicans to victory over the public employee unions, despite extreme measures undertaken by the unions. He never wavered.

2) If he had any nasty skeletons in his closet, the "Right to Work" fight would have resulted in them being dug up and exposed during the recall election.

3) His governor stint gives him executive experience and credibility, something that Rubio lacks. Successful presidents generally have had experience as a gov or a general. What do other FReepers think?

65 posted on 11/27/2012 9:01:52 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Who doesn’t speak Spanish?
George H Bush’ mother is Mexican, his mother’s parents still live there (or have home/s there), his mom taught the kids her native language......of course he speaks Spanish.


66 posted on 11/27/2012 9:18:26 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: cork
They can’t possibly be that stupid.....can they?

No, the voters who vote in this charade are the stupid ones. Any of the 2 final candidates will be from the elites, who own then & then own you.

67 posted on 11/27/2012 9:22:21 AM PST by Digger
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To: bestintxas

Screw the pubbies; for the most part they are wimpy, spineless, back stabbers & gutless. TIME FOR A THIRD PARTY!!!


68 posted on 11/27/2012 9:29:43 AM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: bestintxas

Setting all of the other arguments aside, whether they are true or not - this makes no sense...a candidate named Bush cannot and will not win pretty much by default...it would not matter if otherwise he was organizationally, personally, etc. the best candidate ever otherwise.


69 posted on 11/27/2012 9:32:20 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: newzjunkey

As evidenced by the last election...we don’t live a world that logical.


70 posted on 11/27/2012 9:33:31 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: SoFloFreeper

Oh, it’s so unfair.

Bo freaking ho.


71 posted on 11/27/2012 9:34:49 AM PST by DManA
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To: Russ
Jeb Bush will run in the primaries against at least four or five conservatives. The conservatives will split the vote and Jeb will be the nominee. It’s been that way for the last 25 years and will be again. If he is nominated we only have ourselves to blame.

I guess so. But what if another moderate runs? There must be establishment types who think the Bush name is still poison. Jeb would split the vote, and enable a conservative to win the nomination, if conservatives could settle on one candidate.

The problem, though, is that anyone who has any kind of record in politics -- especially a voting record in Congress -- is liable to be seen as a moderate or RINO or sell-out, so you get purist fringe candidates splitting the conservative vote.

72 posted on 11/27/2012 9:35:58 AM PST by x
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To: svcw

I believe you mean George P.


73 posted on 11/27/2012 9:36:31 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: x

Everyone who believes in conservative principles and defends them is branded a “purist”. As if that’s a bad thing.


74 posted on 11/27/2012 9:39:34 AM PST by DManA
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To: NathanR

It is also as false as false can be.


75 posted on 11/27/2012 9:39:55 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: DManA
Everyone who believes in conservative principles and defends them is branded a “purist”. As if that’s a bad thing.

It's not a bad thing. It just doesn't in itself qualify somebody to be president.

76 posted on 11/27/2012 9:43:14 AM PST by x
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To: DManA

Keyes, Dornan, Forbes, Cain, Hunter, Tancredo: good people maybe, but they weren’t presidential material when they ran.


77 posted on 11/27/2012 9:45:27 AM PST by x
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To: qwicwted

” Start today building a future.”

Need to build it somewhere else. The republican party is a party for the party leadership. Their constituency is themselves. The party no longer has principles and unlike the democrats they are at war with their once core asset... conservatives.

Why anyone would support a party that hates them is beyond me. Building a future on a foundation of sand is a plan for failure.. Need to find some rock.. ant the GOP dont rock....


78 posted on 11/27/2012 9:56:34 AM PST by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: qwicwted

” Start today building a future.”

Need to build it somewhere else. The republican party is a party for the party leadership. Their constituency is themselves. The party no longer has principles and unlike the democrats they are at war with their once core asset... conservatives.

Why anyone would support a party that hates them is beyond me. Building a future on a foundation of sand is a plan for failure.. Need to find some rock.. and the GOP dont rock....


79 posted on 11/27/2012 9:57:03 AM PST by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: svcw

“his mom taught the kids her native language”

You don’t know that.

From my experience, that is a dream by folks like you. But then, you have never lived it. You are just yammering.


80 posted on 11/27/2012 10:11:00 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: lonevoice

One word: NO!


81 posted on 11/27/2012 10:24:30 AM PST by Pride in the USA
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To: Republican Wildcat

And you would be correct.


82 posted on 11/27/2012 10:26:18 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

What do you mean folks like me?
First generation families passing on their native language is a dream?
Never lived what dream, what are you talking about?


83 posted on 11/27/2012 10:27:59 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw

I would like to share this with you.

My kitty cats are bilingual. since I speak to them in Spanish and English, they understand both languages.

I can understand many of their “meows” along with their body language.

I would give anything to be fluent in “meow” as a third language.

I learn something new from them every day.


84 posted on 11/27/2012 10:32:30 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: dirtboy

I was actually referring to the merry-go-round that was the primaries this year.


85 posted on 11/27/2012 10:32:43 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Bigtigermike

Okay. I understand.


86 posted on 11/27/2012 10:36:54 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Bigtigermike

Okay. I understand.


87 posted on 11/27/2012 10:37:53 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: timeflies

Mrs. Bush Pays $4,100 Fine To U.S. Customs
June 20, 1999

TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA — Gov. Jeb Bush’s wife was fined by customs officials in Atlanta for failing to declare $19,000 in clothing and jewelry she bought during a trip to Paris...
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1999-06-20/news/9906200281_1_columba-bush-jeb-bush-customs


88 posted on 11/27/2012 10:53:18 AM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Seriously dude you need to get back on your meds
89 posted on 11/27/2012 10:56:47 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw

Seriously dude, you are the dumbest thing I’ve met since yesterday.


90 posted on 11/27/2012 11:11:19 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

The media will destroy Marco Rubio long before 2016. His name won’t even be brought up for consideration by then.


91 posted on 11/27/2012 11:45:34 AM PST by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: bestintxas

“Jeb”? There’s some guaranteed inbreeding in the family history of someone named Jeb. :P


92 posted on 11/27/2012 11:55:27 AM PST by AmericanSamurai
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

FIRST thing you post to me:
Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) to svcw

Like he speaks Mandarin. Good grief. You don’t know Spanish or you would know he does not speak the language. It was all a fool’s game for people like you.


I respond:
svcw to Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Who doesn’t speak Spanish?
George H Bush’ mother is Mexican, his mother’s parents still live there (or have home/s there), his mom taught the kids her native language......of course he speaks Spanish.


THEN you respond:
Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) to svcw

“his mom taught the kids her native language”

You don’t know that.

From my experience, that is a dream by folks like you. But then, you have never lived it. You are just yammering.


THEN I respond:
svcw to Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

What do you mean folks like me?
First generation families passing on their native language is a dream?
Never lived what dream, what are you talking about?


THEN you respond:
Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) to svcw

I would like to share this with you.

My kitty cats are bilingual. since I speak to them in Spanish and English, they understand both languages.

I can understand many of their “meows” along with their body language.

I would give anything to be fluent in “meow” as a third language.

I learn something new from them every day.


SO I respond:
svcw to Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Seriously dude you need to get back on your meds


YOUR response to that:
Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer) to svcw
Seriously dude, you are the dumbest thing I’ve met since yesterday.

***
I may not be important to you, I would sure like to know what you are talking about, none of it makes any sense.


93 posted on 11/27/2012 12:57:47 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: bestintxas
Of the many challenges that need to be addressed by the Republican Party is the reality that moderate, Establishment tinkering-at-the-edges politics are not only an abysmal failure at the national ballot box, they are a disaster as a governing philosophy.

The GOP's fiscal and foreign policies make almost no sense.

A New Republican Agenda for the Future

94 posted on 11/28/2012 1:14:46 AM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: bestintxas
Don't worry about it. The GOPe won't be going into a voting booth with one Republican voter so they have no power over who anyone vote for in the primaries.

I'll support anyone I want. The GOPe had never had any power over me.

95 posted on 12/01/2012 6:04:12 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: GlockThe Vote

Just don’t vote for Jeb—no problem. You’re perfectly free to vote for whomever you want.


96 posted on 12/01/2012 6:05:22 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: ponygirl

Are you saying the GOP has tried to intimidate you into supporting someone you don’t want to support? This GOPe has been greatly overblown and people on FR forget no one has ever tried to intimidate anyone here on FR. If you’ve been contacted by the GOPe, and been threatened, tell the rest of us about it.


97 posted on 12/01/2012 6:07:30 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Oldexpat
We already have our own party--it's the Republican party and all we have to do it support whomever we want in the primaries. I can categorically state that no member of the GOPe has ever contacted me and threatened me in any way into supporting their chosen candidate for president.

Don't like the GOPe's chosen candidate, DON'T VOTE FOR THEM!!! Plain and simple.

98 posted on 12/01/2012 6:10:27 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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