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S.F. gun ordinances are upheld
sfgate.com ^ | 27 November, 2012 | Bob Egelko

Posted on 11/28/2012 8:36:43 AM PST by marktwain

Edited on 11/28/2012 8:40:07 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

San Francisco can require handgun owners to keep their weapons locked when stored at home and can ban bullets that expand or splinter on contact, a federal judge has ruled in rejecting a National Rifle Association-backed effort to block enforcement of the local gun laws.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; ca; constitution; home
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
Lets play the left’s game and go on the offensive. The 2nd ammendment guarantees the right to keep and bear arms, but not all Americans can afford to exercise this right. We need to demand that the govt provide guns for free or at a greatly discounted price to eligible American citizens. And of course having a gun is useless without ammunition so that should be provided as well. The left considers free contraception to be a right but that is nowhere to be found in the constitution. How can they deny us free guns and ammunition?

They should pass a law that compels every American to own a firearm and a minimum amount of ammunition. Failure to comply results in a fine (tax). States should set up gun and ammo exchanges in order to ensure a more competitive market. ;-)

21 posted on 11/28/2012 9:32:40 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: marktwain

Citizens cant use hollow point ammunition because its so “deadly” but the social security people pack it.

Glad they are looking out for Grandpa. Would not want Grandpa to suffer.


22 posted on 11/28/2012 9:44:17 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: marktwain

And how do they enforce the locked-at-home bit?


23 posted on 11/28/2012 9:44:22 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

I would add that registration, waiting periods, and requiring IDs to for gun ownership disproportionately suppress minorities’ right to bear arms. We need to eliminate all that. We need to make gun ownership more convenient...perhaps a “Motor Gun Owner” law where you can obtain a provisional gun at your local Bureau of Motor Vehicles.


24 posted on 11/28/2012 9:48:17 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: marktwain

9th district? Good chance it will be overturned.


25 posted on 11/28/2012 9:56:08 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: marktwain

This is fantastic news. It will be upheld by the 9th Circus, then overturned by SCOTUS.


26 posted on 11/28/2012 9:58:22 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Make the funding of the Treasury Department (including secret service) and the DHS contingent on the passage of the Affordable Firearms and Self Defense Act and national voter ID requirements for all federally held offices.


27 posted on 11/28/2012 10:20:51 AM PST by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: marktwain
Okay judge, so no Hollow Points, Self Defense or Zombie ammo can be used in your home in Slag Fagsisco. Only military style Full Metal Jacket, aka Ball Ammo is allowed -- fine if you say so.

Then I presume when a home owner uses his handgun - which he legally kept in his holster on his nightstand puts five rounds in a Burglar and three go through him and the wall and hit some innocent bystander, possibly killing them, the home owner - aka 'crime victim' - will be legally absolved of any and all responsibility for said collateral damage in using the legally required FMJ ammo, right?

an aside: While you were at it judge you should have also ruled that if using a Shotgun for Home Self Defense that only SLUGS can be used as those nasty 00 pellets in a 12ga shotgun can cause multiple wounds. And that wouldn't be 'fair' to some poor downtrodden person pushed into a life of crime by 'the man'. Now would it?

(flippin ijits)

28 posted on 11/28/2012 10:22:29 AM PST by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: trebb
And how do they enforce the locked-at-home bit?

Knock knock, gun inspector.

29 posted on 11/28/2012 10:32:30 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: trebb; All
And how do they enforce the locked-at-home bit?

In Canada, one tactic was to wait until you used it in self defense, then you had to prove that it was unloaded and locked up, or you were charged with unsafe storage of a firearm.

30 posted on 11/28/2012 11:02:38 AM PST by marktwain
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To: trebb; All
And how do they enforce the locked-at-home bit?

There is the ever popular means of giving rewards to snitches, and to encourage children to inform on their parents. Children are already being asked whether their parents have guns in the home by doctors, and many doctors are claiming that it is their first amendment right to do so and to enter the information in government databases.

31 posted on 11/28/2012 11:05:07 AM PST by marktwain
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To: for-q-clinton

My emotion is with you on this, but we have to be universal that all our rights are kept intact.


32 posted on 11/28/2012 11:09:34 AM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: trebb

They’d be sure to check after an unlawful entry, to cover their arses.


33 posted on 11/28/2012 11:27:12 AM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: marktwain
In Canada, one tactic was to wait until you used it in self defense, then you had to prove that it was unloaded and locked up, or you were charged with unsafe storage of a firearm.

I keep gun locks co-located with my self-defense weapons. In the event that someone asked about safe storage, I could prove that I was capable of complying with even my state's stupid rules. I wouldn't respond until I had a lawyer present, but I do have the means to make my firearms useless for self-defense if I so choose.

34 posted on 11/28/2012 11:44:19 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: marktwain

Tell this to the Bay ARea gangbangers.. They have more firepower than the rest of the populace.. and the police too.


35 posted on 11/28/2012 12:33:53 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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