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Obama’s “Tell” In Fiscal Cliff Negotiations
Conservative HQ ^ | 11/12/2012 | George Rasley

Posted on 11/29/2012 7:44:52 AM PST by Powers Not Delegated

Experienced negotiators, and poker players, always look for the opponent’s “tell” -- that one little blink or tic that helps them see through the opponent’s deception to reveal what the opponent is really thinking or what cards he really holds.

For those Republicans who thought Obama was actually serious about avoiding the government’s “fiscal cliff,” he just blinked and revealed his cards – and they show a hand that Democrats have held before and know how to play to entice Republicans into making a sucker bet.

What Obama said to reveal his hand was that Congress should pass his tax increase plan now and hold-off on making any decisions on spending cuts until next year.

To Capitol Hill’s establishment Republican politicians, never eager in the first place to make the hard choices involved in reducing spending, this sounded like manna from Heaven: an opportunity to pass a tax increase they see as inevitable, while looking reasonable and kicking the can down the road on cutting spending.

This is a sucker bet that got Republicans skunked when they raised taxes and President George H.W. Bush went back on his “read my lips, no new taxes” pledge.

And it is a sucker bet that even President Ronald Reagan, with all his political skill, took to his regret.

(Excerpt) Read more at conservativehq.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: donedeal; fiscalcliff; obama; spending; taxes
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To: Powers Not Delegated

“when they raised taxes and President George H.W. Bush went back on his read my lips, no new taxes pledge”

These are the looters, the Bailout Babies of 2008. This will result in acceleration of:

1. Continued diminished purchases.
2. Hence unemployment and business closing.
3. Due to #2, Extortion-Care fines and penalties, becomes the Federal WorkCamp.
.........Arbeitsziehungslager


21 posted on 11/29/2012 8:08:52 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Truth29

I like that idea. Take a page from obama’s book and vote “present”


22 posted on 11/29/2012 8:09:23 AM PST by jersey117
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To: Powers Not Delegated

If McConnell or Boehner had any guts they’d say:

“Well Lucy, You can take that football and shove it where the sun don’t shine!”

Whimpy’s line, about: “I’ll gladly pay you tomorrow, for a hamburger today.”, is also apt, but the reference is a bit dated for most.


23 posted on 11/29/2012 8:13:42 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: henkster
They might as well do the right thing (and the job they were sent to do) and not play politics.

But if they do that they might not be reelected: a thought that induces night terrors in today's professional political class. What about those lush retirement and medical benefits? The media attention and glitzy parties, not to mention the under-the-table "extras" provided by lobbyists?

The Republic died the day Americans allowed politics to become a profession and not a civic calling.

24 posted on 11/29/2012 8:20:55 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Powers Not Delegated
THE ONLY WINNING MOVE IS NOT TO PLAY

The Republicans should vote "present," in both the House and the Senate, and publicly state that this is the Democrat's plan, lock, stock, and barrel.

25 posted on 11/29/2012 8:22:42 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Happy 10th FR birthday to meeeeeeeeee)
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To: G Larry

It will be easy to know when Mc Connel is ready to cave. He will give a very tough-talking, conservative’s dream speech on the Senate floor immediately preceding his total capitulation.


26 posted on 11/29/2012 8:24:13 AM PST by fatrat (extremely extreme right-wing radicalized veteran)
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To: Chuzzlewit
the truth is what the Prez and the Press say it is.

Unfortunately....very true. The long term goal MUST be to formulate a plan to "take over" as many media outlets as possible. Problem for good conservative business people is that a lot of the media outlets are bleeding money right now and it would be a "bad investment". I think the libs look at any media venture as a necessary "cost" rather than a business and that's the way some deep pocket conservatives need to view it also.
27 posted on 11/29/2012 8:25:01 AM PST by copaliscrossing (Progressives are Socialists)
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To: Powers Not Delegated
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28 posted on 11/29/2012 8:29:16 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: henkster

Except it didn’t matter how many times the football was pulled away, Charlie Brown still talked himself into believing that THIS was the one time it wouldn’t. The triumph of hope over experience.


29 posted on 11/29/2012 8:48:43 AM PST by Powers Not Delegated
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To: Darksheare

What’s really crazy is that Obama promised in 2008 a “net spending cut” if he was elected. He actually accused McCain of being the big spender.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOZpJ4rSITo


30 posted on 11/29/2012 8:51:45 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: Anima Mundi

Obama got to the White House voting present. So I agree with you. Vote present and let the Dims own it.


31 posted on 11/29/2012 9:01:04 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: Anima Mundi

Obama got to the White House voting present. So I agree with you. Vote present and let the Dims own it.


32 posted on 11/29/2012 9:01:20 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: Anima Mundi

Obama got to the White House voting present. So I agree with you. Vote present and let the Dims own it.


33 posted on 11/29/2012 9:01:24 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: Deo volente

Down the memory hole!
The Ministry of Truth demands it!

It’s much more lucrative for Obama to fiscally destroy the nation.
He gains much more doing that then he would by actually performing good stewardship over the nation.
Hence tghe actions designed to do the opposite of what is right and opposite of what he initially ran on.


34 posted on 11/29/2012 9:04:28 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Powers Not Delegated
Congress should pass his tax increase plan now and hold-off on making any decisions on spending cuts until next year

Yep, I caught that, too. Much like Nancy's pass it now and we'll read it later. That worked out well, didn't it.

35 posted on 11/29/2012 9:15:36 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Powers Not Delegated

The narrative is being framed around the GOP has to do something. The GOP doesn’t have to do anything, this is the deal they negotiated mid-year. It was designed to push the issue down the road and make it look like both sides have to do something.

If they’re not willing to standby what they already agreed what makes us think that ‘tax now’ cuts later is going to work?

All bills must originate in the house, start passing bills for what you want in piecemeal fashion and keep the pressure on the DEM held Senate — keep the DEMS holding things up. Because we all *KNOW* beyond any certainty that ‘cuts later’ aren’t going to happen. If the GOP capitulates now, they DEMS will only start asking for more.


36 posted on 11/29/2012 9:16:41 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: copaliscrossing

Obama’s goal is to destroy America and blame Republicans.

It is best we limit the damage, as we’ll be blamed regardless.

Then, mount a takeover of the Senate in 2014, and stop the bastard!


37 posted on 11/29/2012 9:40:03 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Powers Not Delegated
Oh, how I long for the day when Tip O'Neill was Speaker. a real man who kept every president in his place. Leader of the People's House. Boner is a pathetic disgrace. A cheap suit with an IQ of an ape. He is nailing the final nails in the coffin of American freedom. Even Pigtosi was more of a man that this piece of dirt.
38 posted on 11/29/2012 10:07:33 AM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Powers Not Delegated

I would like to see us go over the cliff for real. I would end up paying much higher taxes but we would get way more spending cuts than any other deal will include. Then in Feb when its time to raise the debt ceiling just refuse and tell dems in senate they will have to pass their first budget in over three years and oh yeah... it needs to be balanced on a dollar in basis. No more borrowing. This would also take the fed out of the bond buying business because the us would not need to sell bonds anymore.


39 posted on 11/29/2012 10:15:39 AM PST by cdpap
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To: MrB
you ask the question: Why would big “O” want to crash the country? Very simple, so he can impose socialism! As a matter of fact, this country is going socialist right before your eyes. every year, the federal government is taking more and the private sector is producing less: now at
43/57%.
40 posted on 11/29/2012 11:29:56 AM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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