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Unions steer Calif. Democrats toward cliff
Times 247 ^ | 12-07-12 | Katherine Timpf

Posted on 12/07/2012 2:47:27 PM PST by lward99

Obamacare doesn't go far enough. The government needs to replace private insurance companies in a complete takeover of health care.

That’s the system California’s union leaders are pressuring Democrats to create, now that they enjoy supermajorities in both chambers of the state Legislature. And their influence is “tremendous,” according to former Sen. Gloria Romero, D-Los Angeles, who served as Senate majority leader from 2001 to 2008.

“California Teachers Association’s former president referred to them as the fourth, co-equal branch of government,” she said. “Nobody has the political and money war chest that they do.”

Read more: http://times247.com/articles/34unions-steer-california-democrats-toward-cliff9#ixzz2EPP6RNs3

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; democrats; unions
This article shows the terrifying implications of a Democratic controlled government in a union-run state.
1 posted on 12/07/2012 2:47:41 PM PST by lward99
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To: lward99

Healthcare is a right, it should be free!


2 posted on 12/07/2012 2:56:06 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: lward99

Bad link.


3 posted on 12/07/2012 3:00:02 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: lward99

Odd how they don’t see that by putting Insurance companies out of business they will be adding to the massive unemployment already hurting the country.

If this were to go nation wide (and I’m sure it would) then hundreds of thousands, if not millions, will be out of work with no prospects for future employment.

Unions need to be crushed. Same with their Democrat pets.


4 posted on 12/07/2012 3:00:48 PM PST by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: lward99
If the CTA is the fourth, co-equal branch of government, CARB is the Fifth. The Government Unionist will be at each others throat shortly

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5 posted on 12/07/2012 3:02:53 PM PST by twistedwrench
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To: lward99

They build on the San Andreas fault, it is only right they go over a cliff.

What happens when a ship sinks? The rats drown.


6 posted on 12/07/2012 3:04:01 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: lward99

What a neat idea! The unions can work their magic on CA health care in the same way they they made Detroit a socialist paradise.


7 posted on 12/07/2012 3:10:04 PM PST by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: twistedwrench

I live here and am looking furiously for a new job out of state.

It never ends here, the Unions, the Illegal Aliens, the Libtards, the Berkeley-Hollywood crowd, the gays, the moronic politicians.

We want out. I may even walk on my house. F it.


8 posted on 12/07/2012 3:32:42 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: lward99
This nation isn't creeping towards Socialism anymore.

It is moving full steam ahead towardsCOMMUNISM.

I am not joking.

"Communism (from Latin communis - common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production, as well as a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of this social order."

When the US Dollar collapses (and it will), Obama and the Democrats will declare property rights are null and void "for the good of the nation."

The ObamaCare takeover of healthcare was a gargantuan step - and now we hear that the Democrats have adopted Class Warfare as an enduring goal rather than an election year strategy.

Class Warfare never stops until the blood runs in the street. Period. That has been its mantra time, and time again in every nation where it was tried.

When we removed God from this nation, we removed His protection.

"The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted."

Psalm 12:8

The United States is rapidly descending into hard tyranny.

It won't be long now.......

9 posted on 12/07/2012 3:50:26 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: History Repeats
Odd how they don’t see that by putting Insurance companies out of business they will be adding to the massive unemployment

Of course they see it. It's part of the plan. If they can drive the insurance companies out of business, guess what happens next. Nationalized insurance run by unionized civil servants. And the insurance will be mandatory, just like health care.

Further down the road I expect the government to nationalize all retirement plans, public and private, in order to correct unfairness and because most pension plans are underfunded. They'll just put all of the funds including social security into one pot and then "administer" it fairly.

10 posted on 12/07/2012 3:53:00 PM PST by oldbrowser (Put Obama in check, now.)
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To: lward99
"Obamacare doesn't go far enough. The government needs to replace private insurance companies in a complete takeover of health care."

I agree in as far as a complete take over of "Private Health Care Insurance Industry", rather than the "Health Care Industry" itself. In principle and on paper it's a great idea and the way to go. I would even believe that it's constitutional under both the commerce clause and the welfare clauses. Alas though, in our current political climate -- which doesn't appear to have any outs -- I don't believe our government can do a clean and honest takeover. Too many corruptions, too many special interests. If the government were to do this, the law wouldn't have to be longer than one to three pages. Anything longer and you know it's being fiddled with for political purposes.

11 posted on 12/07/2012 3:55:05 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: twistedwrench

Outlaw the Rich?!

Oh my.... What will these so-called teachers and parasites do when THEY are declared to be the... RICH!


12 posted on 12/07/2012 4:15:20 PM PST by The Working Man
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To: The Working Man

What will these so-called teachers and parasites do when THEY are declared to be the... RICH!

Fist, they will only be as rich as the union wants them~~and I guess not very~
Second, they will do what all parasites do and jump to the next victim~and suck the life out of them! ba$tards!


13 posted on 12/07/2012 4:29:38 PM PST by Isabel2010
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To: Usagi_yo
I agree in as far as a complete take over of "Private Health Care Insurance Industry", rather than the "Health Care Industry" itself. In principle and on paper it's a great idea and the way to go

Maybe you don't understand... Obamacare is designed to put private health insurance out of business. Then institute single payer as you apparently want. Next the federal single payer squeezes the private health care industry out of business. If you need proof of that, look at how medicare squeezes GPs and geriatricians out of business by not paying them enough to cover expenses. Then the remaining doctors are forced to become hospital and clinic employees which will be buried under mandates by the feds until the industry is de facto nationalized.

Obamacare is nothing short of a long term plan to nationalize the largest industry in the US and Obama's goal is to nationalize as much industry as he can with unions becoming de facto government employees.

14 posted on 12/07/2012 4:52:10 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: palmer; Usagi_yo
Obamacare is nothing short of a long term plan to nationalize the largest industry in the US and Obama's goal is to nationalize as much industry as he can with unions becoming de facto government employees.

There should be no doubt of this -- not in anybody's mind.

Obamacare is merely the first step in arriving at nationalized healthcare.

15 posted on 12/07/2012 4:57:18 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: lward99
It sure will be special having SEIU thugs, er, I mean union members performing all your health care procedures and care!

No doubt the British NHS will be green with envy. Patients routinely dying of thirst or left to croak unattended in freezing, crowded hallways will be the least of our problems.

But at least it will be "free"...

16 posted on 12/07/2012 6:18:38 PM PST by Gritty (I enjoy living in the 3rd World. Soon Americans will be able to do so from the comfort of home-FReed)
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To: lward99

“Unions steer Calif. Democrats toward cliff”

Washington democrats will make sure their fall will be cushioned by taxpayers from other states.


17 posted on 12/07/2012 6:58:55 PM PST by Iron Munro (Big Moo & Bronco 'Bama = Robbing From The Hood and Boy Blunder)
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To: twistedwrench

Every leftist rally is just a freakshow of wretched and dour people, isn’t it?


18 posted on 12/07/2012 6:59:39 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: lward99

The people of Californicate, NY, and all the other progressive states are like drunks .... it’s just so much fun and you never want to stop ... but eventually the hangover hits and it never seems to quit.


19 posted on 12/07/2012 7:26:40 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (The law of unintended consequences is an unforgiving and vindictive b!tch!)
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To: palmer
"Maybe you don't understand..."

I do understand. I told you what I feel is the best way to go, nationalized health insurance, regionalized to spread the risk, perhaps by state. There are ways to make it work properly and efficiently. I also said in our current political climate, it's unlikely that it can be done properly I.E Obamacare. Think of it as an amputation done correctly, quick with a short pain interval then a while to adjust. Obamacare is like amputation with a belt sander.

20 posted on 12/07/2012 7:33:34 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo
So...let's just get you on record here.

You are for or against a complete take-over of Health Care Insurance by the Federal government? IOW....you are in complete agreement and are for Single Payer?

Yes or no....

21 posted on 12/07/2012 7:34:17 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: History Repeats
Odd how they don’t see that by putting Insurance companies out of business they will be adding to the massive unemployment already hurting the country.

Maybe just the opposite. It will probably take twice as many government workers to replace the people who now do the job at private insurance companies. Big Brother will have a job for everyone, don't ya know. ;~((

22 posted on 12/07/2012 7:35:43 PM PST by Ditto
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To: lward99
“California Teachers Association’s former president referred to them as the fourth, co-equal branch of government,” she said. “Nobody has the political and money war chest that they do.”

Ironically, every penny in that "war chest" came from taxes.

California, lol.

23 posted on 12/07/2012 7:42:25 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: lward99
“California Teachers Association’s former president referred to them as the fourth, co-equal branch of government,” she said. “Nobody has the political and money war chest that they do.”

Ironically, every penny in that "war chest" came from taxes.

California, lol.

24 posted on 12/07/2012 7:43:30 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: okie01

If only we had a GOP House that could quickly kill Mengelecare through the appropriations process.

Wait. What?


25 posted on 12/07/2012 7:48:00 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Usagi_yo
Well fair enough....you admitted you are for single payer...Nationalized Health Care.

Thanks for coming out.

So, you sound like you work for Obama........

Great!!

Give me one example of Nationalized Health Care working well.

Thanks....and I expect no answer..fwiw-

26 posted on 12/10/2012 2:42:49 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Osage Orange

You’re right, I’m not going to respond. I have a posting history, go read it.


27 posted on 12/10/2012 3:28:47 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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