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Atheist Attacks on Christmas
Townhall.com ^ | December 11, 2012 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 12/11/2012 6:45:49 AM PST by Kaslin

Bill O'Reilly asked this question on his Fox News program last week: "Why do I have to be the leader defending Christmas against its attackers?" O'Reilly was criticizing Rhode Island Governor Lincoln Chafee's renaming his state's Christmas tree a "holiday tree."

Good question. It's time for Christians to realize that their religion is under attack, and they had better start fighting to win the war for religious liberty in public opinion, in the courts and in the schools.

The war against Christianity has been waged by the American Civil Liberties Union, the Freedom From Religion Foundation and similar groups. Their tactics use the threat of litigation, with the hope that supremacist judges will accept their reinterpretation of the First Amendment, as Americans have understood it for over two centuries.

The re-election of Barack Obama has made this issue even more pressing. Throughout his first term, he waged a persistent campaign to secularize America, to push all religion behind church doors and to ban all mention of religion from every public place, park, building, military facility, school and speech.

The public schools have become the front line in this battle to banish Christmas from celebrations, songs and events, and anti-Christmas public school rulings have been accelerating. Here are a few examples.

Pennsylvania fourth-graders were prohibited from handing out religious Christmas cards to classmates, Massachusetts ninth-graders were told they could not create Christmas cards that depict a nativity scene, a Georgia school board deleted the word "Christmas" from the school calendar, Minnesota middle school kids were disciplined for wearing red and green scarves in a Christmas skit and for ending the skit with wishing all a Merry Christmas, and dozens of schools banned Christmas carols, in favor of songs such as "Frosty the Snowman" and "Winter Wonderland".

A New Jersey second-grader was prohibited from singing the pop song "Awesome God" at an evening talent show, and a Colorado school counselor changed the words of the Pledge of Allegiance on the public-address system from "one nation under God" to "one nation under your belief system" (that was, fortunately, overturned). A Massachusetts elementary school censored God from Lee Greenwood's famous song, changing the line "God bless the U.S.A." to "We love the U.S.A."

A first-grade girl in North Carolina wrote a poem for her school's Veterans Day assembly honoring her two grandfathers who had served in the Vietnam War that included the sentences, "He prayed to God for peace. He prayed to God for strength." The school censored the word God out of the poem before the kid read it. A Texas high school ordered the football coach not to bow his head or kneel when the team said a prayer before a game.

Cranston High School West in Rhode Island banned a prayer banner that had hung on the auditorium wall for 38 years without complaint. The banner read in part: "Our Heavenly Father, Grant us each day the desire to do our best ... Help us to be good sports and smile when we lose as well as when we win. Teach us the value of true friendship. Help us always to conduct ourselves so as to bring credit to Cranston High West. Amen."

A Plano, Tex. school banned an eight-year-old from handing out candy canes with Jesus' name on them to classmates at a school holiday party, confiscated a girl's pencils because they mentioned "God" and banned an entire classroom from writing "Merry Christmas" on cards to be sent to our troops serving in the Middle East. Litigation followed the action of a Texas high school that tried to forbid cheerleaders from displaying a banner at a football game with the Bible verse: "And let us run with endurance the race God has set before us."

President Obama is a major part of the campaign to secularize America. For the fourth straight year, Obama again deleted God from his Thanksgiving Day address as he personally read it from the teleprompter into a camera.

Of course, there is nothing in the U.S. Constitution that requires this anti-Christmas nonsense. The purpose of all these actions is to mandate a religion of secularism, which is completely contrary to American history, heritage and constitutional law.

Christians had better wake up and realize the threat of the secularists to the First Amendment. Our answer to the ACLU and atheist lawyers who are trying to change America should be the favorite words of Scrooge in Charles Dickens' story, "A Christmas Carol": "Bah, humbug!"\


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1 posted on 12/11/2012 6:45:54 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Not atheist.

Anti-theist.


2 posted on 12/11/2012 6:46:51 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Kaslin
To be more precise, there is a war on the Christian content of Christmas. Retailmas is as big as ever.
3 posted on 12/11/2012 6:52:40 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA
Retailmas is as big as ever.

And it makes me want to puke. Once again, much of the world flocks to self-idolotry as glory is deflected away from the One who deserves ALL of it.

4 posted on 12/11/2012 6:58:16 AM PST by mn-bush-man
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To: Kaslin

I love and respect this lady so much.
ALL of us who believe in G-d need to stand and be heard and seen.


5 posted on 12/11/2012 7:01:22 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: mn-bush-man

Why don’t the Atheists do this in August if they say they are engaged in a war on Christmas?


6 posted on 12/11/2012 7:02:38 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Kaslin

Last Friday I attended my grandchildren’s Christmas concert. In past years this particular school system’s Christmas programs were called such and the music included classic Christmas pieces with a clear Christian message.
This year my interest was immediately peaked when two local attorneys, recognizable from their tv advertizing, arrived wearing their black power suits. Two men, with no accompanying family, so I doubt they were there for a relative’s performance. In fact they left after the chorus sang “Calypso Lullabye”, a version of “Mary’s Boy Child” with the lyrics completely rewritten with virtually no mention of Christ or Jesus.


7 posted on 12/11/2012 7:15:58 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Kaslin

Last Friday I attended my grandchildren’s Christmas concert. In past years this particular school system’s Christmas programs were called such and the music included classic Christmas pieces with a clear Christian message.
This year my interest was immediately peaked when two local attorneys, recognizable from their tv advertizing, arrived wearing their black power suits. Two men, with no accompanying family, so I doubt they were there for a relative’s performance. In fact they left after the chorus sang “Calypso Lullabye”, a version of “Mary’s Boy Child” with the lyrics completely rewritten with virtually no mention of Christ or Jesus.


8 posted on 12/11/2012 7:17:02 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Kaslin

They hate Christianity and Judaism but love a certain middle eastern death cult that preaches the violent overthrow of Western Civilization and that disguises itself cleverly as a religion.


9 posted on 12/11/2012 7:17:36 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Kaslin
It's not just a war on Christmas. It's a war on God.
The Secular Left, Homosexual groups, Atheist groups, Marxist groups and Humanist groups can not bear the thought of a Creator. Therefore the war on Christmas is another low point in the calendar for a war on Christianity.
Christians are the majority of religious people in the United States and if Christianity can be be weakened the other religious groups may be easier to single out for attack without fear of the attackers being called hate groups.

We must point out IMHO that these anti-god groups are nothing more than hate groups and should be treated as such. They will not live and let live until it is completely how they want it to be.

10 posted on 12/11/2012 7:28:55 AM PST by RedMDer (Please support Toys for Tots this CHRISTmas season.)
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To: Kaslin

If you dig deep enough into an atheist you will find a person who hates God with every fiber of his being.


11 posted on 12/11/2012 7:29:28 AM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - V. Lenin)
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To: Kaslin
The purpose of all these actions is to mandate a religion of secularism, which is completely contrary to American history, heritage and constitutional law.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

The 'Religion' of the liberals is Atheism (secularism). You can't get any more unconstitutional than this. Wake up America.

12 posted on 12/11/2012 7:51:46 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: AppyPappy

> Not atheist.
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> Anti-theist.

To be more precise, Anti-Christ.

They seem to be just fine with the satanic deities of the Mohamedans and pagans.


13 posted on 12/11/2012 8:05:56 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: MestaMachine

“ALL of us who believe in G-d need to stand and be heard and seen.”

So why are you hiding God’s name?


14 posted on 12/11/2012 9:00:30 AM PST by cameraeye (A happy kuffir!)
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To: Kaslin
Of course, there is nothing in the U.S. Constitution that requires this anti-Christmas nonsense. The purpose of all these actions is to mandate a religion of secularism, which is completely contrary to American history, heritage and constitutional law.

Yup, Establishment Clause. The Greeks and Romans had a public religion -- Judaism, too -- and Obama is trying to set the stage for one here as well.

But the atheists are in for a surprise.

15 posted on 12/11/2012 9:48:14 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: AppyPappy
Not atheist. Anti-theist.

More like, anti-Christian, with Barky in charge.

You know what I mean.

Inshallah.

16 posted on 12/11/2012 9:50:09 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: I want the USA back

I don’t believe they love it. They’re just cowards at heart and so they feel safe “courageously” attacking those who believe in forgiveness. Let’s see them take on the head-lopping savages. (I won’t hold my breath.)


17 posted on 12/11/2012 9:53:23 AM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: Wiser now
This year my interest was immediately peaked ...

Did you mean, "piqued"?

18 posted on 12/11/2012 9:54:17 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Kaslin

O’Reilly is stuck in the pagan past; it is the Christians that are done with the christmas myth. December 25 was the birthdate of Tammuz, Jupiter, Mythra, Osiris, and Constantine.

Yeshua was born in the fall just as all the OT prophecies said.


19 posted on 12/11/2012 9:57:44 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Wiser now
In fact they left after the chorus sang “Calypso Lullabye”, a version of “Mary’s Boy Child” with the lyrics completely rewritten with virtually no mention of Christ or Jesus.

Was there any "religious content" (in a Christmas pageant? <snort!>) in the rest of the program?

20 posted on 12/11/2012 9:57:44 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Christmas is very ‘religious,’ (pagan) just not anything to do with Christ.

The Son of YHVH was not born on the pagan’s day.


21 posted on 12/11/2012 10:00:28 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Christians may have done a little PR by scheduling Christmas so close to the Natalis Invicti Solis and the Saturnalia. So call it syncretism. But the depths of religious feeling provoked by Christmas and its joyful and thankful solemnities down the centuries are genuine -- and that is what our enemies propose to mock, belittle, and vilify.

The "Mattress Mac" ad-screamer down the road who thinks Christmas was invented so he could move more bedroom suites is just as much a Christmas secularizer as the ACLU lawyers and prune-faced atheist complainers they rep for.

22 posted on 12/11/2012 10:03:13 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: cameraeye
What? If you know G-d's Name, by all means, enlighten me. Because last I heard, when asked, it was, "I AM THAT I AM."

Or,"אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה"

23 posted on 12/11/2012 10:03:13 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: MestaMachine

‘God’s’ name is YHVH. (I was-I am-I shall be)


24 posted on 12/11/2012 10:08:00 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; cameraeye

And I would not dis you for saying that. But I am Orthodox and Orthodox Jews are forbidden to say or write the Tetragrammaton in full. It is usually replaced by Adonai when reading/reciting Torah out loud. So why would someone who claims to have been IN Israel dis me for respecting my own religious tradition?


25 posted on 12/11/2012 10:33:17 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: editor-surveyor

This is directly from Hebrew Holy Scripture. Please note the spelling of G-d. First words in the whole Bible.

BERESHIT
(Book of Genesis)
Chapter 1

1
IN THE beginning G-d created the heaven and the earth.
2
Now the earth was unformed and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of G-d hovered over the face of the waters.


26 posted on 12/11/2012 10:37:02 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: editor-surveyor; lentulusgracchus

O’Reilly is stuck in the pagan past; it is the Christians that are done with the christmas myth. December 25 was the birthdate of Tammuz, Jupiter, Mythra, Osiris, and Constantine.

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From what I remember of my seminary education, the December 25 Christmas date was originally instituted because of the (admittedly Greek) belief that great people were born/conceived and died on the same day. The traditional understanding was that Jesus was crucified on March 25, so the idea came up that he must have been conceived that day too. Thus, 9 months later, December 25.

Not exactly accurate, but it wasn’t syncretism, and it wasn’t bowing to pagan festivals. The early Christians wanted to celebrate the Incarnation of our Lord, and this was the best ‘guess’ that they had.

I don’t think it really matters where the Earth was in its orbit around the sun. What matters is that the ancient Church chose this time to celebrate God becoming man for our salvation and eternal life. If you want to choose another day, all power to you, but I’m going to hang onto Christmas, if for no other reason than it’s the best time of year to deliver the Gospel, because people are just a bit more receptive, in my experience.


27 posted on 12/11/2012 10:42:45 AM PST by Luircin (Don't like Romney? Blame the conservative circular firing squad.)
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To: MestaMachine

I believe it’s OK to type out the word God. Nobody here will be insulted. No need to block out any letter of that word.


28 posted on 12/11/2012 11:00:24 AM PST by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: editor-surveyor
Nobody can know the exact date, but the date isn't really important (although I like the concept of Christ supplanting and replacing the old celebrations with His birth).

What is important is the worship and joy associated with His birth and the thankfulness for what Christ has done for mankind. The day doesn't matter. Focus on WHY Christmas is celebrated, rather than on the date which is in essence form over substance.

29 posted on 12/11/2012 11:21:20 AM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: History Repeats

It isn’t what you believe that is important. It’s what I believe. But thanks for the comment anyway. Wouldn’t want to insult anyone in retaliation for bring insulted, now, would I?


30 posted on 12/11/2012 11:29:49 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: MestaMachine

Wasn’t my intention to insult you by stating that you can spell out the word God. If you took it that way then I owe you an apology. I’ve seen a few who post here use the G-d spelling because they feel they might get censored for saying God. It’s not like FR is a liberal forum where one would be booted for saying positive things about God.


31 posted on 12/11/2012 11:57:11 AM PST by History Repeats (sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Well the band played “Good King Wenceslas”, one of the orchestras and another band played “Dreidel” twice, and one of them played a “Kwanzaa Carol”.
Jingle Bells,was on the program, of course.
Since this was a middle school presentation we had three orchestras, three bands and a combined chorus.


32 posted on 12/11/2012 12:05:57 PM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Piquey, piquey, piquey.
Not necessarily. ;-)


33 posted on 12/11/2012 12:09:27 PM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Slyfox

I completely agree with you. Every atheist I know is actually pouting, and they all celebrate Christmas.
Atheism is immaturity cloaked with the pretense of intellectual superiority.


34 posted on 12/11/2012 12:12:36 PM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

God says the day does matter.

The word of God gives us a celebration for his son’s birth, the day he came to Tabernacle with us. It was the 15th day of the Biblical month Tishri, which places his birth in September by our calendar.

YHVH doesn’t tell us things that don’t matter. If we ignore the rehearsals that YHVH prescribed, we will not be ready when it isn’t a rehearsal any more. Sukkot is when he will return, but which Sukkot? This is what the parable of the virgins is all about; those that ignore Sukkot, and pretend that he was born on Tammuz’s birthday are the foolish virgins. Do you wish to be one of them?


35 posted on 12/11/2012 12:47:11 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Wiser now

> “Atheism is immaturity cloaked with the pretense of intellectual superiority.” <<

They deserve an Oscar for that role.


36 posted on 12/11/2012 1:05:36 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: MestaMachine

Where do you get the spelling?

In Torah it is spelled out completely, YHVH, and changing Torah is forbidden.


37 posted on 12/11/2012 1:09:53 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
It is what I was always taught in Cheder since I was a very young child.

Tetragrammaton

In Judaism, the Tetragrammaton is the ineffable name of God, and is not pronounced. In reading aloud of the scripture or in prayer, it is replaced with "Adonai" ("my Lord").

Tetragrammaton

The term tetragrammaton (from Greek τετραγράμματον, meaning "four letters") refers to the Hebrew theonym (Hebrew: יהוה) transliterated to the Latin letters YHWH. It is derived from a verb that means "to be", and is considered in Judaism to be a proper name of the God of Israel used in the Hebrew Bible.

The most widely accepted pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton (YHWH) is Yahweh, though Jehovah is used in many Bibles, but in few modern ones. The Samaritans understood the pronunciation for the Tetragrammaton to be Iabe. Some patristic sources give evidence to a Greek pronunciation Iao.

As Jews are forbidden to say or write the Tetragrammaton in full, when reading the Torah they use the term Adonai. Christians do not have any prohibitions on vocalizing the Tetragrammaton; in most Christian translations of the Bible, "LORD" is used in place of the Tetragrammaton after the Hebrew Adonai, and is written with small capitals (or in all caps) to distinguish it from other words translated "Lord".
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The original Torah scrolls were not written in Greek. They were translated into Greek by Egyptians. We have so lost sight of who we are and our heritage. And it is so sad.

38 posted on 12/11/2012 1:54:58 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: Wiser now
Well the band played “Good King Wenceslas”, one of the orchestras and another band played “Dreidel” twice, and one of them played a “Kwanzaa Carol”.

Ah, Kwanzaa -- of course. My favorite criminal-inspired totally-derivative, racist/rejectionist/separatist holiday. Don't get me started.

Of course, if I were really misanthropic, I'd be out promoting and popularizing Kwanzaa in Norway, and sending back 6 x 15' posters of smiling, happy, platinum-blonde Norwegians celebrating Kwanzaa by lighting their particolored candlesticks. * * * * * * * * * * The two ACLU lawyers must have been alerted about that one carol by some busybody pot-stirrer who, eagle-eyed, spotted the title on the program. Used to be only Baptist Ministers showing up for a debate about Creationism wore black power-suits. Oh, well.

39 posted on 12/11/2012 6:52:08 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: MestaMachine
Some patristic sources give evidence to a Greek pronunciation Iao.

Greeks couldn't transcribe the w and intervocalic or terminal h. In Classical Greek and New Testament Greek, the characters were lacking and the h sound was lacking except at the beginning of a word (spiritus asper, "rough breathing", denoted by a diacritic mark in Byzantine and later Greek), or in conjunction with the Greek r.

Generally speaking, w and intervocalic or terminal -h => *. Even intervocalic s's tended to disappear in Greek; there's epigraphic evidence from one of the Greek dialects of the name of Poseidon being written Poheidwn, with an "h" character being borrowed from some other language/alphabet.

40 posted on 12/11/2012 7:08:55 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Kaslin
The war against Christianity has been waged by the American Civil Liberties Union, the Freedom From Religion Foundation and similar groups

Including "Americans United for Separation of Church and State" (Americans United, for short) with CEO Rev. Barry Lynn who somehow still holds ministerial credentials from the United Church of Christ.

Can somebody please explain to me how attacking public Christinity is a ministry of Word and Sacrament?

41 posted on 12/11/2012 7:54:31 PM PST by lightman (If the Patriarchate of the East held a state like the Vatican I would apply for political asylum.)
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To: Kaslin

Since 47% of the populace will agree with anything the left spouts, about half of our country believes the mythical “separation of church and state” is in the Constitution. The truth is, if the Founders had in any way intended that there be freedom from religion:

- the Constitutional Convention would not have opened in prayer ... every day
- church services would not have been allowed in the House of Representatives until after the Civil War
- Jefferson and Madison would not have attended those church services
- there would not be so many quotes from our Founders regarding the role of God in our founding or in the continued strength of our nation
- Congress would not have appointed chaplains for itself and the armed forces
- Congress would not have sponsored the publication of a Bible
- Congress would not have imposed Christian morality on the armed forces
- Congress would not have granted public lands to promote Christianity among the Indians
- Congress would not have declared national days of thanksgiving and of “humiliation, fasting, and prayer”
- Most states would not have required their leaders to be Christians

Our Constitution is supposed to guarantee freedom OF religion, but the leftists have turned this into (and, to a large extent, we have stood by and allowed it) freedom from religion!!!


42 posted on 12/11/2012 8:17:28 PM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: editor-surveyor
it is the Christians that are done with the christmas myth. December 25 was the birthdate of Tammuz, Jupiter, Mythra, Osiris, and Constantine.

That would be true if we worshiped the day, but we worship The Reason for the day. The day could be any one of 365 and it would still be honored by us because of what it would represent, and unbelievers would still find fault and try to obscure The Reason for the day.

43 posted on 12/11/2012 8:35:53 PM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: editor-surveyor; victim soul; Isabel2010; Smokin' Joe; Michigander222; PJBankard; scottjewell; ...
O’Reilly is stuck in the pagan past; it is the Christians that are done with the christmas myth. December 25 was the birthdate of Tammuz, Jupiter, Mythra, Osiris, and Constantine.

Yeshua was born in the fall just as all the OT prophecies said.

See what some here believe. Very odd. The fruits of PROTESTant heresies on full display.
44 posted on 12/11/2012 8:45:16 PM PST by narses
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To: editor-surveyor; victim soul; Isabel2010; Smokin' Joe; Michigander222; PJBankard; scottjewell; ...
O’Reilly is stuck in the pagan past; it is the Christians that are done with the christmas myth. December 25 was the birthdate of Tammuz, Jupiter, Mythra, Osiris, and Constantine.

Yeshua was born in the fall just as all the OT prophecies said.

See what some here believe. Very odd. The fruits of PROTESTant heresies on full display.
45 posted on 12/11/2012 8:46:15 PM PST by narses
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To: narses
These sects sure are working out the logic of their ways.

Watching the the non-Catholic folks who play ‘Silence is Golden’ while the government methodically attacks the Catholic Church and the First Amendment, there's not much doubt that we're already close to there being only Catholic Church and pagans.

46 posted on 12/11/2012 9:12:06 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: editor-surveyor

47 posted on 12/11/2012 9:16:34 PM PST by narses
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To: Kaslin

I’ve been in Australia for a couple of months now and they are not ashamed to say, or print, or put up banners with Merry Christmas. There’s even a water tower prominently stating Merry Christmas. It’s quite a pleasant change from the US’s attempts to be politically correct (or, more to the point, erase Christ from Christmas and Christianity from our society).


48 posted on 12/11/2012 9:38:47 PM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: editor-surveyor; narses

“..God says the day does matter...

Yes the day does matter - Jesus was born on the longest night of the year - the Light of the World came on the darkest night.

See John Chapter 1 verses 4 and 5. He was born on the pagan holiday to bring light to the pagan minds. Google 1622 painting by Gerard van Honthorst, Adoration of the Shepherds for a visual.


49 posted on 12/12/2012 8:22:31 AM PST by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: jda

The true day is important.

It is part of YHVH’s plan to keep his elect ready for Yeshua’s return, so those that are deceived into disregarding the true day will be lost at the time of his return; they won’t be ready and waiting, like the foolish virgins of the parable.


50 posted on 12/12/2012 12:45:29 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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