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Women in combat a really, really bad idea
Renew America ^ | 12-7-12 | Bryan Fischer

Posted on 12/11/2012 5:41:35 PM PST by ReformationFan

America's daughters should not be sent into combat. Period.

Part of the reason is philosophical: we want to live in a nation where we expect men to use their strength to protect the women in their world, not the other way round.

But there are immensely practical reasons as well. God simply did not design women to have the same size, upper body strength, or stamina as men. It's just plain stupid to ignore this biological fact of nature.

The Washington Post, for instance, recently ran a story on the "throwing gap" between men and women, which has stubbornly persisted for the half-century that brain-numbed researchers have been exploring it. Girls age 14-18 throw only 39% as far as boys.

Although the Post never makes this connection, this fact is no longer an idle curiosity when the issue at hand is not throwing rocks or baseballs but things that explode. Reports from the Marine training base at Parris Island indicate that only 45% of female Marines could throw a hand grenade far enough to keep from blowing themselves up. If you're in a foxhole with a woman about to toss one of those, you're not sure whether to treat her as friend or foe. It's one thing to fall on a grenade thrown by the enemy. It's quite another to have a grenade thrown by a friendly fall on you.

The Marines are trying to defy logic, common sense, biology, and the Laws of Nature and Nature's God by admitting women into its Infantry Officer Course. Only two of the 80 eligible female Marines volunteered for the course this year. One washed out on the first day, and the second had to drop out within two weeks for "medical reasons," most likely some muscular or skeletal injury.

(Excerpt) Read more at renewamerica.com ...


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KEYWORDS: bryanfischer; females; feminazism; feminism; fischer; military
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To: ReformationFan

Sorry, but DRAFT FEMINISTS.

They’re as good as or better than men-—they tell us that all the time.

DRAFT their asses. Put up or shut up.


21 posted on 12/11/2012 7:08:19 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Repeat Offender
But things look a bit different and more personal at 30 feet than they do at 30,000 feet.

Well said, it also explains why I have never seen a woman take over in a biker bar, although that is where you find tough women.

Outlaw bikers don't pretend that women are an equal threat. Actually, no place where there isn't government oversight, (law and job repercussions) does.

I think the battlefield is one of those places also.

22 posted on 12/11/2012 7:09:29 PM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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To: SkyDancer
And when we're in a real war, not an optional war mainly using drones, but a war with real air combat, where we actually lose planes....

And your pretty lady pilots parachute down into jihadland, talibanland, al quedalandyou're completely fine with that too?

23 posted on 12/11/2012 7:09:35 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ReformationFan
I don't see how we're going to keep women (and children) out of combat, considering that our leftist politicians of both parties have created a situation where we will soon be fighting anti-American scumbags of every size, shape, color, and nationality, right here on our home soil.
24 posted on 12/11/2012 7:17:19 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: Travis McGee; Repeat Offender

Basically what I see is the trashing of women serving their country. Thanks guys. BTW, 125 women serving in Vietnam were killed. It doesn’t matter if you’re up front or behind the lines.


25 posted on 12/11/2012 7:21:15 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SkyDancer
Let me go ahead and re-post this here for your benefit and any others that seem to think ruining the combat arms is a fine idea.

We should not only begrudge, but we should discriminate there is no place for women in the military let alone combat.

The number that are as capable as their male counterparts is very very few. And just because they are well aware of the risks, doesn't mean that I, as a fighting man, accept the risks associated with her.

There already are too many distractions on the battlefield and too many units left short handed because some chick got knocked up down range or just prior to the unit deploying. Yup, got it; it's the guy's fault too, but that doesn't change the fact.

The military does not exist as a social experiment. It does not exist to make people feel good, to build nations, to make equal opportunities for all.

It is to seek out, close with, and destroy the enemy. It is to outsmart and out pace so that he can kill the enemy in the most effective manner possible. It is to demoralize and destroy. It is not a job for women.

When it comes time to look at a group of muslim terrorist POS and dump a few 6-8 round burst on a rocking and rolling M240G or M240B and remove them from the the rest of humanity, that is the time of a fighting man.

Jessica Lynch supposedly knew the risks involved. And when the SHTF she was "huddled in a protective ball in her humvee." Now, I may have only done four back to back combat deployments, but I have never been taught this fearsome fighting position......most would say it is cowering in fear. And what happened? Another soldier died trying to protect a woman.

A woman that never learned how to properly clear a jammed weapon. Why? Because there was always a man around to do it for her. And when it mattered most she couldn't perform and another soldier lost his life. But don't worry, she was put in for the Bronze Star for that other soldier's bravery. And then we know the rest of the story about how she was captured.

But don't worry, it was denied she was raped and sodomized in order to prevent the rest of U.S. forces taking out vengeance on the enemy.

There has already been enough wussification of the U.S. military. We used to teach how to kill. In the Marines we were taught Line Training. No BS hand to hand tactics on how to take another human being's life. Now "MCMAP" aka the quickest way to get your ass kicked is all about restraint. It is the Napoleon Dynamite style of fighting.....'grab my arm, no my other arm, no with your other arm.' "Never given always earned" or whatever the faggoty BS everyone gets a trophy slogan is. For you Army types out there, don't laugh your "combatives" are just as much horsesh#t too.

We spend countless upon countless hours being taught how we're all equal and women just the same as men. Well, why don't they have the same PFT, CFT, and MCIRS standards? Why are women able to do less to get better scores to promote faster? Because they are not equal in military ability and they never will be.

We can't sing cadence about killing any specific group or type of people - even those we are at war with. Can't sing about sex, murder, burning villages, or even cuss because some faggoty-ass sissy, or chick might get offended. You can go to an early grave son, but don't you dare sing about dropping napalm on a village.

It's jacked up some chick with half the time in, had a lower standard to meet and out ranks you and is now in a "leadership position" when she hasn't had the time or experience necessary to be there........it's for the greater good of equality.

I don't say any of this out of opinion or conjecture or what I've been taught....I say that as having spent 14 years of my life doing this and damn near a decade either on, or training for the two way shooting range.

I have been in some of the largest and most intense battles the U.S. has ever fought in urban warfare straight - up killing people. More than 30 young men I've served with in 3 different infantry battalions haven't made it home, and countless more wounded; myself included - in ONE DAY of fighting more than half my platoon was wounded in combat.

I thank the Good Lord above we didn't have women in our platoon. And if they were there.....I'd find every way possible to leave them back. You can charge me burn me, take my chevrons, GFY.

I don't care if you are a woman in the military; were in the military; your neighbor, sister's neighbor's cousins, niece is in the military and so you feel a need to somehow justify it....but flat out THERE IS NO PLACE FOR WOMEN IN COMBAT.

/previous post

And to add in another previous post that the we're all equal crowd should read....here's a sample of ground combat, I PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED:

Fallujah, Iraq, pinned down, cutoff, and surrounded 360 degrees while taking heavy enemy fire, while the LT calls in 155 all around your pos with arty shrap blowing in through the windows.....and all because you're down to -100 rnds per 240G (both guns; having started with 1K each), no belted SAW ammo, no hand grenades, no 203 40mm grenades, no SMAW rockets, no AT4s, and trading out magazines because your buddy went "winchester" and there's still a whole f###ton of muj out there. /post

Oh yeah and you're covered in your blood, and a few of your buddies too. And this is with 120lbs on your back.

26 posted on 12/11/2012 7:23:47 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: SkyDancer; Travis McGee
Basically what I see is the trashing of women serving their country. Thanks guys. BTW, 125 women serving in Vietnam were killed.

125 out of 50,000,000? Wow, those are quite the odds and there were no reason for them. BTW, how many exponentially more men died trying to save those 125?. Check my post 26.

I'm sorry your feelings are hurt, but your feelings aren't worth the LIVES of my Marines.

27 posted on 12/11/2012 7:26:26 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Repeat Offender

What I see is the underlying current of “Go to the kitchen and make me a sammich” Those women you so gallantly tossed off some of whom were medical specialists, doctors, nurses trying to save people like you. Some were shot down in medevac’s coming to the aid of guys who may not make it if they didn’t show up - my feelings aren’t hurt. So don’t concern yourself. Just sit back, have your beer or whatever and tell your mates how you really smacked down a stupid ....


28 posted on 12/11/2012 7:32:06 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Mortrey

I agree with that. Draft all the members of NOW and Sandra Fluke immediately.


29 posted on 12/11/2012 7:33:17 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Oh no, I’ve seen a lot of recent movies and tv, and it clearly shows that many women are much stronger than men. I’ve seen 120 lb women on the screen easily beat up men weighing twice and much. Huge, muscular men are easily punched out and thrown around by these seemingly very small women. I’m sure that reflects real life. (snicker)


30 posted on 12/11/2012 7:34:03 PM PST by driftless2
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To: ReformationFan
I'm mostly anti-... but Israeli female soldiers certainly make a great counter-point.


31 posted on 12/11/2012 7:38:45 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: SkyDancer

Next, please tell us how horrible it is that the sexist patriarchy that runs the NFL won’t let women play pro football.

Call the WAAAAAHbulance! Life is So unfair to SkyDancer!


32 posted on 12/11/2012 7:40:01 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: driftless2

Indeed. A five-foot-two anoxeric stick model can easily wipe out a room full of 100 men. It must be true because Hollywood says so/sarc.


33 posted on 12/11/2012 7:44:17 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

One of the primary reasons we have 20 million illegals in this country is because the border agencies have been so thoroughly feminized. Perhaps the worst thing that ever happened to the Border Patrol was allowing women to join.


34 posted on 12/11/2012 7:46:22 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: Travis McGee

Usually happens when people like you run out of ideas and have to resort to kindergarten type talk ...


35 posted on 12/11/2012 7:48:01 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Ajnin

If the military goes the way of the Border Patrol our enemies will make short work of us.


36 posted on 12/11/2012 7:49:18 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: ReformationFan
Remember when the Pentagon said Jessica Lynch bravely fought the enemy until she ran out of bullets?

Really she didn't fire a single shot and was captured, raped and tortured.

37 posted on 12/11/2012 7:52:52 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Teacher317

You mean the Israel that turned over half of their country to terrorists sworn to exterminate them all?


38 posted on 12/11/2012 7:54:31 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: SkyDancer

So, it’s “kindergarten talk” to wonder why there are ZERO women in the NFL, but there should be women in infantry combat, where the risk is not a rough tackle, but getting killed (dead, not just injured) in physical hand-to-hand combat?

Grow up, girl. Reality is reality, even if you want to stamp your feet and pretend that fantasy is reality.

I have a news flash for you: real war is not a rerun of Star Trek. They don’t just shake the camera and blow in some smoke, then declare the Klingon ship to be destroyed.


39 posted on 12/11/2012 7:55:51 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SkyDancer

You’re missing his point and, by over-dramatizing with the bs kitchen comment, proving a part of his point.

And women didnt ride or fly dust off, or medevac, in Vietnam. Though you are right, some hospitals were over-run and several brave non-combat nurses were raped and killed.


40 posted on 12/11/2012 7:56:25 PM PST by Noamie
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