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Marriage Is A Sacred Covenant Which The Supreme Court Should Not Alter.
1 posted on 12/11/2012 6:42:45 PM PST by billflax
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To: billflax

Marriage is between a man and a woman.

Always was always will be.

The fruits can call it anything they like, the government can do the same, if it is not between a man and a woman it is nothing but a convenience.


2 posted on 12/11/2012 7:05:53 PM PST by Venturer
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To: billflax

Amen.

I asked the Roman Catholic priest if my wife and I could refuse the state marriage license and he said that he was barred from marrying us if we had no state license.

States should give nothing other than civil unions similar to an llc or partnership. Anything a justice of the peace, vegas elvis imitator, or cruise ship captain can put together man can put asunder.


3 posted on 12/11/2012 7:15:26 PM PST by posterchild
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To: billflax
Marriage, up until very recently, was between a man a woman their city of residence, their county of residence, their state of residence, and their country of residence.

For a long time now government entities have provided tax deductions and other benefits to married couples.

If we truly want to get the government out of marriage, then we will have to get rid of all government benefits.

Also, much will have to be changed with regard to the relationship between parents and children. If most children were raised by their birth parents, then that relationship could be recognized separately from the marriage. However, with adoptions, surrogate births, etc. it is no longer obvious who has what relationship with the children. So government might have to play a larger role to make certain the children are properly represented if the government no longer officially recognizes the marriage.

It's a fustercluck either way.

5 posted on 12/11/2012 7:20:18 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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It’s “Pseudo Marriage.” not “same-sex marriage.”. The latter is an oxymoron. Call it what it is not what the libs want to label it. Laws respecting marriage are “for the children.” / Michael Savage.


6 posted on 12/11/2012 7:22:29 PM PST by LALALAW (one of the asses whose sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: billflax
Is marriage in violation of the separation of church and state?

The government originally got into the marriage business by issuing a license for the purpose of stopping interracial marriages. The history of marriage traditionally has never been a function of the state. Marriage was first performed by God himself when he gave Eve to Adam. Why is it that our courts of today cannot see that marriage is the most obvious violation of what they call the separation of church and state?

8 posted on 12/11/2012 7:34:28 PM PST by Taxbilly
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To: billflax

...so some rich, gay millionaire is trying to get out of paying their fair share?

Is that what’s at the heart of this?


10 posted on 12/11/2012 7:39:20 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: billflax

“Marriage is a religious concept long indelibly imprinted into Western Civilization.”

No, it’s not. It’s an agreement between a man and a woman to pass on their genes in the most effective way available to them.


12 posted on 12/11/2012 8:14:51 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: billflax

All states should recongize civil unions, partner a and partner b. Marriage should be left to church.


13 posted on 12/11/2012 8:25:55 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: billflax; Lurking Libertarian; JDW11235; Clairity; TheOldLady; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; ...

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

15 posted on 12/12/2012 5:27:43 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: billflax

Marriage is the familial, societal, governmental, and economic building block of our civilization, our society, our country, and our communities. It is a God-ordained, God-given institution, the first and most important one. It is fundamental to the laws of nature and of nature’s God, and absolutely necessary to the fulfillment of the ultimate stated purpose of the U.S. Constitution, which is “to secure the Blessings of Liberty to our Posterity.” It must be fiercely defended on every front from any and all who would pervert it or subvert it, or America cannot possibly survive. The attack on the natural family represents an existential threat.


16 posted on 12/12/2012 5:44:16 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Obamacare is the socialist cancer of the New Deal metastasized.)
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To: billflax

Okay, none of the government’s business. So if I get married again, I can just declare it polyandry and still keep the military benefits from my first (deceased) husband, right?


17 posted on 12/12/2012 6:04:14 AM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: billflax

“Now, since the family and human society at large spring from marriage, these men will on no account allow matrimony to be the subject of the jurisdiction of the Church. Nay, they endeavor to deprive it of all holiness, and so bring it within the contracted sphere of those rights which, having been instituted by man, are ruled and administered by the civil jurisprudence of the community. Wherefore it necessarily follows that they attribute all power over marriage to civil rulers, and allow none whatever to the Church; and, when the Church exercises any such power, they think that she acts either by favor of the civil authority or to its injury. Now is the time, they say, for the heads of the State to vindicate their rights unflinchingly, and to do their best to settle all that relates to marriage according as to them seems good.”

-—Pope Leo XIII about 130 years ago.

It was always a danger, at least in the modern era. As far as the state is concerned, marriage is simply whatever judges, pols, or 51% of the people think it can be at any one time. And that’s it. A poll last year said that 40% of people think that marriage comes from the state.

Freegards


20 posted on 12/12/2012 3:18:10 PM PST by Ransomed
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Marriage Is A Private Matter That's None Of The Federal Government's Business

Welcome to the United States of Relativism.


28 posted on 12/12/2012 10:09:44 PM PST by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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