Posted on 12/15/2012 8:05:24 AM PST by blu
Where do we go from here?
The smallest minority has rights that exceed those the law abiding majority.
The focus should be on the unstable shooter and the who/why knew he was wacko.
How many school buildings are there in the US? And how many doors on those schools? Besides the security at the doors, how many do you think there should be walking the halls?
Between all the people providing security and all the people doing those frequent psych evaluations and all the people added to the bureaucracy to manage this new mandate, we should certainly be able to put a good dent in the unemployment problem.
And we PAY for all kinds of special services, such as Medicaid, to ensure that these metally sick kids are "mainstreamed" because anything less is a "restrictive environment" that the Left has dictated is not acceptable. So we put deranged people in the general population and then we ask why they do CRAZY things!
I never said it would be particularly cheap. Then again, if the schools can hire 40 teachers, I think they can afford at least a handful of security personnel.
Q; Are public schools driving kids crazy in a hundred ways?..
Note; on purpose, with malice aforethought, in your face, with no retribution, brazenly, cravenly, maliciously.?.
Of course. The solution to every problem must be to throw another $40 billion of government spending at the problem.
I'd estimate that would be the minimum cost to implement your proposal nationwide.
This includes the unborn and elderly.
That’s roughly what I estimated the cost as. I’ll ask the same question I asked someone else. What price tag is acceptable to you for the safety and security of our kids?
It's a false choice. Just because you spend the $40 billion doesn't mean you'll eliminate all risk and ensure 100% safety.
If you manage to make the school building 100% secure, and some nut responds by taking over a school bus and kills all the kids on it, I suppose your solution would be to have armed security on every school bus. And one wouldn't be enough. Just in case some armed security guard on a bus goes psycho, you'd better hire two, just so you have somebody to take out the security guard that went nuts.
You can never eliminate all risk. I agree with you there. All I know is this, and I suspect we strongly agree on this point: the gun-free zones aren’t working at all and we need to change how we secure our schools.
I’d prefer allowing the teachers and administrators to carry. I just don’t think the other side is ever going to go for that. In light of that, I think we do have to offer up some realistic alternative that they would bite on, and I think that’s a small security force for the schools.
If we don’t offer up an alternative, they’re going to cram a gun ban up our a$$es as *their* solution and we’re still going to have the same problem of zero security at our schools.
two at each entrance and enough walking the halls to provide quick response if someone manages to sneak through the front door. Subject them to frequent psych evaluations and ensure that they’re well qualified and well paid.
If it requires a new tax, so be it.
Oh it will-- bank on that. In 2010 there were 99,000 public schools in the United States. You are demanding a security force the size of the US Army.
You will never get reasonably informed people to go along with it either. Or the Supreme Court. Who do you think it was who decided that mentally ill people still have civil rights in the first place.
Yes, but not in such overt ways. Let's look at some examples, shall we?
Guns are bad. If you write a paper about taking a gun out and shooting animals, your parents will be called and made to speak with the principle. Mixed message time: It's ok to talk about and use guns at home, but don't mention them in school, and for God's sake, don't ever write about using one! Only anti-gun discussion is allowed in school.
God is not discussed at school...we wouldn't want to offend a Native or a Hindu, now would we? At home, of course, we talk about God all the time.
so, yes, the schools are slowly, subtly programming our kids to have split personalities, if you want to take it that far. We need to take back our local control of our schools. We need to Pink Floyd em (hey, teacher, leave that kid alone!)
At this point, I am considering quitting my job with great benefits to re-open my private homeschool for other people's kids. I bet I'd have 25 want-to-be students by the end of next week!
“This includes the unborn and elderly.”
Yes it does. And anyone who cannot see that is not human.
In retrospect, I overstated the numbers necessary. I’ll concede that one. Four or five total on average would probably be adequate.
You’ve touched on the truth that nearly everyone is overlooking.
First - we live in an evil world that Satan owns and controls (for now). He is the prince and power of the air (spirit) and broadcasts evil every moment.
Second - if we are to enjoy liberty, which is a GIFT from God, then liberty requires risk. Liberty means we understand we live in an evil world and we must risk evil for the sake of being free of the tyranny of men.
If we prefer to be safe - then we forsake liberty. Safety and security is the biggest threat to liberty and Christianity that exists outside of Satan himself.
Safety and security breeds complacency, lethargy and soon empowers government of men to become god on the promise of making everyone ‘safe’.
Liberty means we must endure risk, and live alongside it every moment.
Liberty also means we are afforded the means to defend ourselves against that risk at every moment.
To eliminate or mitigate risk, to disarm a free people from defending against the risk of evil, ensures evil will triumph over us.
I assumed six per school in my $40 billion dollar per year cost estimate.
But then again, I was only counting the roughly 100,000 public schools. Total number of K-12 schools in the US is over 132,000.
I remember a few years ago when the idea of Bush coming up with his new Medicare prescription drug plan was that if we didn't do something, the democrats would come up with something that was worse. And it works as long as we can pretend that we can keep on funding bigger and bigger government by borrowing more and more money from the Chinese (or alternatively just printing more money).
It was their parents’ duty. They decided Obama would better protect them.
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