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On gun control, look to Biden
CNN ^ | Dec 19, 2012 | Rebecca Buckwalter-Poza,

Posted on 12/19/2012 6:18:06 AM PST by combat_boots

Editor's note: Rebecca Buckwalter-Poza served as deputy national press secretary of the Democratic National Committee during the 2008 election.

(CNN) -- President Obama's poignant speech at Sunday's interfaith vigil in Newtown, Connecticut, set the tone for our mourning. Now, America's path forward will be decided out of the spotlight. The question of whether the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School will linger only in memory or be memorialized by an enduring shift in gun policy can only be answered by the legislature.

Incoming Judiciary Committee chair Sen. Diane Feinstein has announced she will introduce an enhanced assault weapons ban on the first day of the new Congress, but the fate of that legislation is in the hands of Vice President Joe Biden.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol; rkba; secondamendment
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Like putting Barney Fife in charge of gun control.

21 posted on 12/19/2012 6:59:02 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: apillar
what happens when parts can be “printed” and no control can be had whatsoever?

where parts are as ubiquitous as a ball point pen...

it is crystal clear the only way to stop the violence is to train the population as a whole about the second amendment and self control and responsibility. (see individualism)

22 posted on 12/19/2012 7:08:11 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: combat_boots

Says it best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ecwKeU1_IU


23 posted on 12/19/2012 7:10:08 AM PST by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: combat_boots

We have a Second Amendment to protect us against wannabe dictators like Obama. This justifies owning whatever arms are required to defend ourselves; do NOT give an inch on that point!


24 posted on 12/19/2012 7:13:04 AM PST by NRA1995 (CNN should be PNN (Propaganda, Never News))
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To: apillar

Surely you are not saying, “I have mine, or I’ll buy mine, before the ban so it doesn’t matter?”

What makes you think that the left will stop short of an outright ban on possession, without a grandfather clause if they win this battle?


25 posted on 12/19/2012 7:14:03 AM PST by Jgerald
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To: Jgerald
Surely you are not saying, “I have mine, or I’ll buy mine, before the ban so it doesn’t matter?” What makes you think that the left will stop short of an outright ban on possession, without a grandfather clause if they win this battle?

No (I think you might have started reading in the middle of a long conversation thread). I started by pointing out the the ban on the private "transfer" on so called assault weapons would be unenforceable, because there are no registration records kept for them so there would be no way to prove the transfer took place before or after the ban (unless you were stupid enough to pay by check or give a dated receipt).

"Cherrio" pointed out that more ominous word in the bill was the ban on "possession". That is when I responded that that I interpreted possession to be the same as the 1994 bill, which would grandfather in existing gun owners.

I certainly wasn't endorsing the ban and will fight it tooth and nail if it looks like it will become law. And then do my best to violate it once it does...civil disobedience and all that stuff the liberal love, except when it's used against them.

26 posted on 12/19/2012 7:25:12 AM PST by apillar
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To: combat_boots

“You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it’s an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.”
— Rahm Emanuel

Joe Biden’s Big F’n Ban.


27 posted on 12/19/2012 7:36:43 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: apillar

Compliance for turn in worked so well with the Canadian long gun database./sarc


28 posted on 12/19/2012 7:40:21 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni
Compliance for turn in worked so well with the Canadian long gun database./sarc

Lol! You can say that again, I didn't think they had it in them. I would like to think that we are made of sterner stuff and would make our government a bigger laughing stock than the Canadians did theirs. But after the last election, who knows?

29 posted on 12/19/2012 7:44:52 AM PST by apillar
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To: combat_boots
Don't forget the ammo.

Just back on line from doing just that.
:)

30 posted on 12/19/2012 7:50:34 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: apillar

I see. That being said, enforceability wouldn’t be so difficult. If you ever had to use the firearm in anyway for self-defense, your possession of such a weapon would immediately become apparent.

For that matter, even if you were to take the firearm out and shoot it, you would be faced with a neighbor or some random person calling you in as a person with an evil banned gun.

Simply putting a ban in place would relegate these firearms to be hidden away, lest they be confiscated and/or subject the owner to criminal penalties. Contrary to internet bluster, (everyone is Rambo on the internet) the overwhelming majority of gun owners will not start a revolution or shoot government officials to prevent the enforcement of a ban.

Hence, a ban absolutely must be defeated, and it looks like people are already starting to cave on this due to the media hyperventilating.

The media has enormous power. Far more power than many conservatives will give it credit for. Look at what the media and the schools were able to do with homosexuality in such a short period of time.

Now they are on a full court press to go after gun rights. If we don’t not get out in front of this right now, we are only a step away from truly becoming like a socialist European state.


31 posted on 12/19/2012 8:35:01 AM PST by Jgerald
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To: Fishtalk

Precisely!


32 posted on 12/19/2012 10:07:19 AM PST by mkboyce
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To: combat_boots

Oh joy! Will be just like the Summer of Recovery. This is going nowhere folks, Barry just offloaded it to his do-nothing VP.


33 posted on 12/19/2012 10:09:55 AM PST by CityCenter (Compromise is the welcome mat to deception.)
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To: apillar
"Cherrio" pointed out that more ominous word in the bill was the ban on "possession". That is when I responded that that I interpreted possession to be the same as the 1994 bill, which would grandfather in existing gun owners.

I see your point. When I read it I immediately thought of FDR's confiscation of gold - the banks were ordered to seal all safety deposit boxes and an IRS agent had to be called in order to open it. So yes, you could still own it in the sealed safety deposit box, but it was essentially worthless unless you agreed to take what the government was offering. So your "private property ownership" was virtually worthless overnight.

IMO this WH buffoon will find a way to make all guns they don't like (??) become worthless - there is no way they can actually enforce a full-on confiscation, but there are many ways they can make it impossible for you to use them (ban ammo or tax it our of existence) and certainly stop you from transferring them. DON'T PUT ANYTHING PAST THIS MARXIST ADMIN THAT IS RIGHT SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF TRANSFORMATION. THIS IS ONLY ONE OF MANY CHANGES ROLLING DOWN HILL ON TOP OF US.

AMERICA YOU ARE GOING TO GET WHAT YOU VOTED FOR.
34 posted on 12/19/2012 11:14:17 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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