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Soledad O’Brien vs. John Lott
National Review Online ^ | December 18, 2012 | Patrick Brennan

Posted on 12/19/2012 1:46:57 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 12/19/2012 1:46:59 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Typical Lib "I for the life of me cant understand your point" or "It boggles the mind your idea" or something absurd like that is what libs use to argue their point when they have no facts - which is normally the case.

Mr. Lott should have countered with something like -"I stated the facts plainly and you refuse to accept them or have some sort of comprehension problem. Its as plain as the smug on your face."

2 posted on 12/19/2012 1:51:10 PM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: neverdem
But O’Brien, in a telling way, is literally incapable of putting forth these arguments. The media’s ignorance about guns and inability to comprehend that gun control may be ineffective has been on vivid display in recent days; it wasn’t long until O’Brien joined the fray.

Unfortunately, this doesn't matter. The uninformed 15% swing voter watching DWS and American Idol will OK anything that Obamaclaus does because they like him.

They aren't paying attention to anything that remotely affects them except for Honey Boo Boo's crass show and the Kardasian/Jenner divorce.

3 posted on 12/19/2012 1:58:37 PM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: neverdem

She is right to a degree -

A 5.56 semi auto rifle with a large magazine is nearly ideal for such a massacre because it is more likely to hit more targets with a single magazine. Automatic weapons would waste much more ammo to hit the same number of targets and require more ammo and more frequent magazine changes.

Its better than a pistol for that purpose as it would be more accurate, and also because of greater magazine capacity.

And a 5.56 rifle with light recoil will permit faster aimed fire than a more powerful rifle, as well as having higher capacity magazines, and lower overall weight and bulk.

On the other hand, the same qualities make it an excellent individual guerrilla weapon and nearly ideal with respect to the true political purpose of the Second Amendment, which is to facilitate a revolt.


4 posted on 12/19/2012 2:10:35 PM PST by buwaya
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To: neverdem

Hey SoO’Dumb,

I think there’s a reason it’s called the “Bill of Rights” and not the “Bill of Want/Needs”

Kinda ironic since our government funds ‘rebels’ in far away islamic countries with the same weapons (and some even scarier) than the ones they’re trying to take from legal owners here. And don’t get me started on Holder and “Fast & Furious” gun-running to mexican drug gangs. How many kids has that killed? (not to mention 2 of our Border Patrol agents)
Are we going to ban the feds from evil black rifles?

Why does anyone need a 4th Amendment or right to privacy? IF you’re not doing anything wrong, why should anyone have a problem with the feds reading all your emails and listening to your cell calls?

How about we limit letters or call to Congress? or letters to the editor? Why do you NEED to call ,write, or post here? It could offend someone or drive a crazy person ‘over the edge’ .

A few ‘reasonable’ restrictions may be in order on the 1st Amendment. I think one quill pen per person is plenty.


5 posted on 12/19/2012 2:11:03 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: neverdem

O’Brien’s emotional outburst revealed something: her line of reasoning only makes sense if she wants a full ban. Confiscation, “buy back”, with severe penalties for non-compliance. Like Australia did.

Even Obama doesn’t go that far. He knows that would lead to an open revolt; he just wants to use this as an opportunity to make incremental “progress”, with hopes that in 20 years, semiautomatic rifles will be as rare then as automatics are now.

I prefer O’Brien’s timeline. I’m still young enough to participate in the fight if we decide to have it now. In twenty years, probably not so much.


6 posted on 12/19/2012 2:23:56 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: neverdem

O’Brien’s emotional outburst revealed something: her line of reasoning only makes sense if she wants a full ban. Confiscation, “buy back”, with severe penalties for non-compliance. Like Australia did.

Even Obama doesn’t go that far. He knows that would lead to an open revolt; he just wants to use this as an opportunity to make incremental “progress”, with hopes that in 20 years, semiautomatic rifles will be as rare then as automatics are now.

I prefer O’Brien’s timeline. I’m still young enough to participate in the fight if we decide to have it now. In twenty years, probably not so much.


7 posted on 12/19/2012 2:24:08 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: neverdem

I say, dat gurl is about as sharp as a bowling ball.

8 posted on 12/19/2012 2:52:38 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: absalom01

Only to point this out....but she sits in a studio...that you have to show some sort of ID to get past an armed guard at the front. I don’t think there’s a single network studio that doesn’t operate like this presently. She might grin at the camera and say she’s ‘clean’, but she’s got armed protection.


9 posted on 12/19/2012 3:21:08 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: neverdem
the AR-15 actually uses smaller bullets and is less powerful than single-shot hunting rifles, because it is based off an automatic military rifle that fires smaller rounds in order to reduce recoil

Military rifles are designed to wound - a wounded soldier will normally be aided by one or more compatriots, taking at least two enemies out of action rather than just one.

That is the original point of the smaller caliber, the lower power, and the steel jacket on the round.

10 posted on 12/19/2012 3:23:44 PM PST by wideawake
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To: frogjerk
Mr. Lott should have countered with something like -"I stated the facts plainly and you refuse to accept them or have some sort of comprehension problem. Its as plain as the smug on your face."

I would go with the old Ed Koch classic:

"I can explain the facts to you. I can't comprehend them for you."

11 posted on 12/19/2012 3:27:46 PM PST by wideawake
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To: TigersEye
Where are the daily news stories telling us about people SAVED/protected by owning and possessing Guns?
12 posted on 12/19/2012 3:46:54 PM PST by 4Liberty (Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
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To: sauropod

read


13 posted on 12/19/2012 3:48:06 PM PST by sauropod (I will not comply)
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To: 4Liberty
The only thing we will ever get from the MSM is propaganda and lies.

Pat Caddell called it. Do you believe it yet?

Pat Caddell slams the media: They have become an “enemy of the people” Sept. 29, 2012(video 26:00)

Emotional Pat Caddell on the MSM ignoring Benghazi: “These people have no honor!” Oct. 27, 2012 (video at link 4:06)

The Media are enemies of the people!

14 posted on 12/19/2012 3:49:33 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: neverdem

Soledad O’Brien is as dumb as a bag of dog crap.

The proverbial box of rocks has some nominal value as aggregate in concrete, or as weapons.

There is zero use for dog crap. It doesn’t even make good fertilizer.


15 posted on 12/19/2012 5:14:26 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: pepsionice

“She’s got armed protection”
What a great point! Why didn’t he say that to her - the OBriens and Rosie ODonnells all have armed guards - it’s us, the little people who are supposed to be barenaked and helpless.


16 posted on 12/19/2012 5:48:12 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: frogjerk

Soledad Racist O’Brien lost her show to someone not quite so disgusting, under new CNN management.

Diversity racists, like the white ones they modeled themselves after, always burn their own houses down sooner or later.


17 posted on 12/19/2012 7:23:53 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: neverdem
[Article] The “assault weapon” used in Newtown, however, as in Colorado, was actually not a legal deer rifle because it is actually not “high powered,” it’s too weak to safely kill a deer.

News to me. And news, I think, to many thousands of Southern hunters who've gone for whitetails with .223-cal. Mini-14's and CAR-15's for the last 30 years.

18 posted on 12/20/2012 12:09:46 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: sickoflibs; GOPsterinMA; NFHale

Soledad belongs in the kitchen.


19 posted on 12/20/2012 12:11:11 AM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: frogjerk
Mr. Lott should have countered with something like -"I stated the facts plainly and you refuse to accept them or have some sort of comprehension problem. Its as plain as the smug on your face."

May I disagree? As disagreeable as it is to me, because you're right, actually.

But Soledad was using that weepy b.s. as a weapon. Dr. Lott could sit there all day taking her to school on the facts and still lose a crooked fight like that which Soledad was offering him.

He'd offer arguments A&B, and Soledad at every turn just did her "But ... it's so SAAAAD .... WHY are you fighting me? WHY don't you want to do the Right Thing? WHYYYYYYYYYYY are you so MEEEEAAAAANNNNN ah-ha-ha-bwaaaa-hooo-boo-hoo weepy weepy cry sob snuffle kvetch."

Which is called the "Tears of a Woman" ploy. It jerks the chain of every female in the room (except the most experienced and least tolerant of honeys pulling b.s. and wasting their time), and all the younger women, and even some misguided or clueless men will jump to her assistance AAAAAaaaaahhhh bwaaaaa bwaaaaa he's so MEEEAAANNNN a-haa-hooo-boo-hoooooo! and yeah, right, it's dirty fighting, and women have been winning dirty fights like that for 3,000,000 years.

His better bet, before she gets all the sirens wound up to full scream, is to smother her in phony solicitude, inquire after her emotional health and equilibrium, and suggest with understated urgency that she seek emotional support and help as soon as possible so she can overcome her deep, disequilibrating sorrow. After all, people in that state are in no shape to do their federal income taxes and wouldn't even try, and so they really ought to concentrate on the tragedy and adjourn the political "stuff" until some better day.

No, seriously. The other way lies Cannae, and Waterloo. Sounds like she took him to Cannae, and took all his eagles.

20 posted on 12/20/2012 12:27:13 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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