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Atheists Use Times Square Billboard for Anti-Christmas Pitch
The New American ^ | 12.14.12 | Dave Bohon

Posted on 12/21/2012 9:57:26 AM PST by Coleus

A group called American Atheists has posted a high-profile billboard in New York City's Times Square depicting Christianity as a “myth,” apparently mocking Jesus Christ on the cross. The group, which first launched its Christmas “myth” campaign in 2010, ramped up its campaign with a giant sign that features an image of Santa Claus, an equally large picture portraying a suffering Jesus on the cross, along with the phrase, “Keep the Merry — Dump the Myth!”

David Silverman, president of the atheist club, claimed in a press release that his group thinks “a large population of Christians are actually 'atheists' who feel trapped in their family's religion.” He declared that “you do not have to lie and call yourself Christian in order to have a festive holiday season. You can be merry without the myth, and indeed, you should.”

Silverman justified the latest controversial sign by stating that his club was trying to “encourage people to be honest with themselves and their families this year. If you don't believe in God, tell your family — honesty is the greatest gift, and they deserve it.”

The anti-Christmas billboard campaign the atheist group came up with last year, which debuted on the New Jersey side of the Lincoln Tunnel, was nearly as offensive to many Christians, with pictures of Jesus, Santa Claus, the Greek god Poseidon, and a Satan-like figure in a business suit, along with the slogan: “37 Million Americans know myths when they see them,” followed by, “What myths do you see?”

That billboard received almost universally negative response, with the comments of one mainline pastor from New Jersey summing up the public perception. The minister told the Christian Post that not only was the sign “ignorant and vulgar,” but it demonstrated a lack of understanding on the part of the American Atheists about the meaning of the term “myth” in relation to classical literature.

“Jesus is different,” said the pastor, who wished to remain anonymous. “Only the most dense and simple-minded person would put him in the same category as the other three. Clearly, even those who lack a personal commitment to Jesus recognize that there was in fact some historical figure by this name — religious leader and teacher — around 2,000 years ago,” the pastor said.

Atheist Silverman told Fox News that his group's billboard this year was funded in part by a private donor who gave them $25,000 for the project. He said the billboard will be posted on Times Square until January 10 of next year. “We chose Times Square because it is a place where people go to shop and be festive, which has nothing to do with religion,” Silverman said.

The Catholic League, which each year counters the atheist signs with Christian truth, said that this year's effort by the American Atheists stepped over the line of civility. 

“This is vile,” said the Catholic League's Bill Donahue of the Times Square billboard. “When you depict Jesus on the cross with a crown of thorns, this is exploitative. We as Christians never harass, intimidate or insult atheists. But they can't seem to say, 'We simply disagree with you.' They have to insult us.”

Last March the American Atheists were blocked from putting up a similarly offensive billboard in a Hasidic Jewish neighborhood in New York City after the owner of the residential building atop which the sign was to have been erected changed his mind. Silverman said he suspected Orthodox rabbis in the area persuaded the landlord to back out of allowing the sign, which was to have ridiculed Judeo-Christian values with the following slogan in both Hebrew and English: “You know it’s a myth — and you have a choice.”

Said the less-than-upbeat atheist leader about the landlord's decision: “It has been very disconcerting to see that the traditional victims of religious bigotry have become the purveyors of religious bigotry.”

While the property owner apparently had no comment about the conflict, a local rabbi, David Niederman, was quoted by NBC News as accurately describing the rejected billboard as “a disgrace.... The name of God is very holy to us and to the whole world.”



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: atheists; billboard; billboards; billdonahue; catholicleague; manhattan; nyc; timessquare; tna; waronchristmas; waronchristmas2012
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1 posted on 12/21/2012 9:57:39 AM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus
Most of those *reading* the billboard are atheists anyway (or moslems) so it doesn't make much difference.
2 posted on 12/21/2012 10:02:09 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: Coleus

May God forgive them and the 100,000,000 innocent lives their belief has claimed.


3 posted on 12/21/2012 10:03:43 AM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Coleus

Toddlers on parade, complete with tantrums. Down with authority, parents and rules; We want license, not freedom!

Do you think they’ve heard of St. Nicholas, the man?

The irony.

Even they need God. If he didn’t exist, who would know they existed?

They always make the best argument for Our Lord... whether they know it or not.

Oh well, they just gave me the green light to proselytize under that spot. God bless them.


4 posted on 12/21/2012 10:03:53 AM PST by AliVeritas (God's will be done. Pray, Pray, Pray, Penance, Penance, Penance.)
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To: Coleus
I dare Comrade Silverman to place the same type of billboard in various European (or Middle East) cities but that depicts Moe Hammered rather than Christ.And hopefully he won't forget to put his home address in big letters at the bottom.
5 posted on 12/21/2012 10:10:55 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: Coleus

God is not mocked. This ploy is pathetic. Most of them are afraid there IS a God, and He is not happy with them. Fear of God’s judgment usually makes rational people amend their behavior.


6 posted on 12/21/2012 10:12:48 AM PST by redhead (America!! Remember who you are!!)
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To: Coleus

Hint Dave. When you make the fuss over Muslims that you do with us, I’ll take you seriously.

That is the REASONable thing to do since it looks to me like you singled out the biggest threat to your agenda.

Hint 2:

One of our ‘myths’ won’t demand we kill you for your statements. The other hates Jews even more than Atheists and does demand you be killed.

Guess which is which.

But alas, that’s not on your agenda.


7 posted on 12/21/2012 10:18:02 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Coleus

If they don’t have any faith, how can they criticize something that isn’t there to them. Duh. All intentions to remove God from our society. (and fear they know the impact of God’s word)


8 posted on 12/21/2012 10:21:39 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Christie at the beach

If you do not believe in God, why should you care if others do?

They are not sure what they believe , they are just frightened punks, trying to convince themselves they are right.

I wish them all a Merry Christmas. Just to piss them off.


9 posted on 12/21/2012 10:26:25 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Norm Lenhart

Exactly. Where are the brave billboard posters stating that Islam/Mohammed is a sham? Where are they?


10 posted on 12/21/2012 10:26:40 AM PST by Obadiah (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: Obadiah
More interestingly, I notice that Mr. Silverman is not attacking the faith and beliefs of his own family's traditions.

He is attacking Christians instead.

11 posted on 12/21/2012 10:29:28 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Gay State Conservative

What’s the problem, folks? God in his word has specifically proclaimed that atheists are fools. Atheists don’t have to answer me. They will one day answer to God. He has promised much worse than I could ever do.


12 posted on 12/21/2012 10:34:53 AM PST by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: Coleus

Catholic finally gets fed up and kills these atheist f@ckers.

How’s that for a muslim holiday greeting.


13 posted on 12/21/2012 10:34:53 AM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Coleus

It is quite apparent that Athiest’s get their identity from Christianity.


14 posted on 12/21/2012 10:35:37 AM PST by trailboss800
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To: Coleus

Not atheist. Anti-Theist.

Funny how they use Santa as the keeper because the other is a myth.


15 posted on 12/21/2012 10:37:06 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a masscre at a gun show.)
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To: Obadiah
Exactly. Where are the brave billboard posters stating that Islam/Mohammed is a sham? Where are they?

Oh, they are EVERYWHERE!

Right along with the PETA protesters who spray red paint on biker gangs for wearing leather and the nutcases who go into police stations with "weapons of war" to kill innocent, unarmed policemen and the celebrities who have moved to Cuba to enjoy that social, island paradise.

16 posted on 12/21/2012 10:37:20 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Venturer

“If you do not believe in God, why should you care if others do?”
“Apply for the American Atheists Visa Card”

There’s money in it.


17 posted on 12/21/2012 10:41:44 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: Coleus

Amazing how they are willing to spend money slamming a God that they allegedly don’t believe exists. If they really believe that God does not exist, they wouldn’t be wasting their money. It looks to me like they really do believe God exists, but they simply do not like Him.


18 posted on 12/21/2012 10:43:47 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Obadiah

I wish I had the money to put up a billboard next to it with Silvertwit’s pic saying “This man believes Allah are figments of a few billion imaginations and Muslims are fools for believing in him.”

Ans watch the MSM try spinning why one is bad and the other good. One is provable in a court of law, one is not.

Dilemma!

Surely Dave would not object as his position would be stated clearly.


19 posted on 12/21/2012 10:45:04 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Coleus

It is going to be “fun” watching these WORTHLESS “People” getting theirs @ the “Great White Throne” Judgment.


20 posted on 12/21/2012 10:46:27 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Coleus
I wonder if atheists have stopped to think how much "Merry" there would be if there were no God. Where do they think "Merry" came from, anyway?

I think Josef Stalin could tell them the answer, and it wouldn't be from humanism.

21 posted on 12/21/2012 10:50:03 AM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: N. Theknow

In the late 90s I got into a heated debate with Rikki Rocket, the drummer from the Rock band “Poison”. He is a Peta freak and was going off about how hunting etc is evil.

I simply asked him how he justified all the leather they wore in the band on stage putting such evil thoughts that wearing dead animals was OK into the minds of all the impressionable youth / fans.

Silence? Hey Rikki! Where’d ya go?
Guess he didn’t like being laughed at. ;)

The greenies are nothing but hype and agenda unhampered by fact. And unfortunately, uneffected as well.


22 posted on 12/21/2012 10:52:11 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: AppyPappy

excellent catch


23 posted on 12/21/2012 10:54:57 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Coleus

The creed of atheism — the certitude that the ground-of-being is not enough like a person or mind to be related to personally — is to me very strange to the point of being indefensible. Agnosticism — being uncertain whether the ground-of-being is enough like a person or mind to relate to personally — is at least an intellectually respectable position. (To me, the very intelligibility of the world to our human reason, which is the basis for the science our contemporary atheists profess to revere, is proof of the likeness between the ground-of-being and the human person, traditionally referred to in the phrase “image and likeness” — not so strong a proof as alone to banish all doubt, but strong enough to destroy any certainty in the opposite view.)

Still, what is really sad about turn-of-the-21st-century atheism, is its debased moral imagination in which “myth” is equivalent to “falsehood”, in which the resonance of myth with our moral core is denied, or worse, absent. J.R.R. Tolkien was instrumental in converting C.S. Lewis to Christianity with the description of the Gospel: “It’s a myth and it’s true.” To our atheistic contemporaries, such a remark makes not sense, and that is, perhaps more tragic than their unbelief.

A Merry Christmas to all.


24 posted on 12/21/2012 10:57:00 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Coleus

Christmas and Easter are the two biggest holy days for atheist cultists.

Merry Christmas


25 posted on 12/21/2012 11:06:47 AM PST by bray (Welcome to Obamaville)
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To: Coleus

When Madelyn Murray O’Hare, the per-eminent atheist who had prayer removed from all schools said “Oh my G-d” when she heard the pope was shot way back then. Probably you won’t hear any of them crying to Buddha when they’re about to die either.


26 posted on 12/21/2012 11:07:39 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Coleus

FJB


27 posted on 12/21/2012 11:47:24 AM PST by Post5203 (I bought 6 marines a beer at a bar recently and not one said thanks. I won't do that again.)
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To: Coleus

Other than praying for their souls; Christians shouldn’t spend a lot of time getting roiled about atheists and their pathetic attempts at subversion. The Word tells us not to be troubled by these harbingers of Christ’s return. These people are only trying to allay their deep down, gut-wrenching fear of a living God by denying His existance.

James 2:19 says that even the demons know and tremble. They and their human servants aren’t concerned about dead Muslims, pot-bellied mantle gods or any other such manmade idols. Yes, they know and believe. Like their leader Satan, the only victory they can hope for is to take more of us to oblivion with them, much like the suicidal spawn we are seeing so much of in today’s world.


28 posted on 12/21/2012 12:03:11 PM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Coleus

The atheist creed: There is no god and I hate him.


29 posted on 12/21/2012 12:14:29 PM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: Coleus

Better to live your life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn’t, than to live your life as if there isn’t, and die to find out there isn’t.

I’ve heard this forever and it’s still valid.


30 posted on 12/21/2012 12:16:08 PM PST by babyfreep
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To: Coleus

These guys remind me. I need to head over to YouTube for my traditional playing of Thurl Ravenscroft’s landmark polemic about these guys.


31 posted on 12/21/2012 12:17:02 PM PST by InMemoriam
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To: Coleus
This was on The Blaze a few days ago...a "Flash Nativity Scene" in Santa Monica (Where they wont allow Nativity scenes...) Where there's a will, there's a way! You'll love this
32 posted on 12/21/2012 12:19:40 PM PST by abigail2
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To: babyfreep

Try that again...

Better to live your life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn’t, than to live your life as if there isn’t, and die to find out there *is*.


33 posted on 12/21/2012 12:19:54 PM PST by babyfreep
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To: rebuildus; NewDestiny

OOPs I mean “flash mob nativity scene”


34 posted on 12/21/2012 12:22:43 PM PST by abigail2
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To: Coleus

The United States could never have been founded without Christianity. Nor atheists either, for some form of “belief” will always subsume non-belief. And with no other counter, non-belief would be crushed.


35 posted on 12/21/2012 12:35:32 PM PST by onedoug
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To: wideawake

“More interestingly, I notice that Mr. Silverman is not attacking the faith and beliefs of his own family’s traditions. He is attacking Christians instead.”

Brilliant post. I’ve often thought the militant atheism practiced by folks like Mr. Silverman is really just a cover for a specifically anti-Christian bigotry.


36 posted on 12/21/2012 12:48:52 PM PST by crusader71
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To: Gay State Conservative
My favorite Time Square Billboard:


37 posted on 12/21/2012 12:57:59 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: Coleus

This will have the same effect as pro-life folks displaying posters of dead babies: Drive more people from their cause than attract.


38 posted on 12/21/2012 12:58:42 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: N. Theknow
Right along with the PETA protesters who spray red paint on biker gangs for wearing leather ...

I'd pay to see how the bikers would react to that.

39 posted on 12/21/2012 1:04:47 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Coleus
In this country, they are free to pony up their own money, and buy a billboard for their message.

Religious folks can do the same and in fact have put up similar billboards decrying atheism as false, such as this one:

Similar Sign

I imagine I could find with little effort, billboards put up by Catholics that might somehow offend Baptists or Jews or Mormons, as well as the other way around.

This country was fundamentally built on the principle of "Live and Let Live". Read the board, ignore the board, put up your own board, but set aside the vitriol.
40 posted on 12/21/2012 1:46:19 PM PST by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: Rebel_Ace

At least old Ebeneezer Scrooge came to his right mind in his latter years. Always hope for atheists to repent and believe. Dying without Christ as the Saviour of the soul is foolish and the most stupid thing ever with eternal consequences.


41 posted on 12/21/2012 6:28:02 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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Knights of Columbus Lead Charge to 'Keep Christ in Christmas'

Knights of Columbus urge millions to 'Keep Christ in Christmas'

Atheists’ ad blitz calls Christmas a myth

Atheists Continue War on Christmas

42 posted on 12/31/2013 7:36:14 PM PST by Coleus (Vivat Jesus)
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To: Coleus

Poseidon? Okay, give them that.
Jesus? Actual historical figure.
Santa? Actual historical figure (St. Nicholas of Myra).
Satan? Actual historical figure. If you doubt me, and you seek his monument, look around.

I’m really getting less and less interested in dealing with these guys’ theological daddy issues.


43 posted on 12/31/2013 9:21:03 PM PST by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team)
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To: Coleus

I tend to bet the Orthodox basically told that landlord “You put that thing up and it’s coming down, one way or the other.”


44 posted on 12/31/2013 9:25:43 PM PST by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team)
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