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Do you agree with the NRA that an armed officer should be posted in every school? (FREEP THIS POLL!)
BayNews9 ^ | 21 December 2012 | Staff

Posted on 12/21/2012 11:46:44 AM PST by rarestia

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To: DungeonMaster

My first worry is another 500,000 Federal employees at $100,000/year
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That is just the administrators.

The actual ‘guards’ would be the ‘armed mall rentacops rejects’ paid close to the minimum wage.

I saw someplace that the avg armed security guard probably in the 10-13 ph range.

That is probably the ONLY job I wouldn’t take for that kind of money. Possibly if casual dressed but definitely NOT if a uniform is involved - You are just a ‘target’ for the crazies.


61 posted on 12/21/2012 12:54:22 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: DoughtyOne

“If we consider the per person cost broken down across 600 parents at the Newtown school, for instance, the fee would be rather minimal if training and arming only five teachers was the outcome, and they were simply paid a monthly stipend for become part of a on site security team.
I’m not convinced these staff would demand increased pay. They might do it out of sense of devotion to the children as long as their certification/equipment costs were covered.”

Frankly, I doubt you would have found ANYone teaching at Sandy Hook Elementary who would have signed on. If you had found but one, that would be a surprise to me.

Arming school staff might sound like a good idea in some places — like rural Texas — but it simply won’t be acceptable to the vast majority of people (and teachers) in the blue states. Aside: those same districts might support an in-school security officer (as distinguished from regular member of the teaching staff or supervisors).

It goes completely against their mindset regarding firearms, and I doubt you could persuade them to change...


62 posted on 12/21/2012 12:56:22 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: rarestia
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63 posted on 12/21/2012 12:58:21 PM PST by jobim (.)
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To: Road Glide

What you do is play the same game in reverse. “What, there isn’t one teacher in this school that cares enough about their students to protect them? REALLY?”

Get enough loud-mouths in the community to demand it, or threaten to pull their children out since they wouldn’t be safe, and watch the reaction.


64 posted on 12/21/2012 1:02:48 PM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
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To: cripplecreek

As a society we forsook morals and went moral relativism

We accepted extreme violence in our movies

We accepted extreme violence in our video gaming

We allowed God to be taken out of most kids lives

Here we are, blaming guns so we don’t have to blame ourselves.


65 posted on 12/21/2012 1:05:21 PM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Get enough loud-mouths in the community to demand it, or threaten to pull their children out since they wouldn’t be safe, and watch the reaction.

Hell, we can't even get conservatives to vote in school board elections.
66 posted on 12/21/2012 1:06:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: rarestia
No. We're turning into a police state already. Better to allow teachers and administrators carry if they so choose.

I'm disappointed at NRA for blaming video games. Video games don't kill people.
Blaming guns and the "gun culture" is a slap in the face to the millions of people who use guns responsibly.
Same with millions of harmless game players or countless people engaged in other potentially dangerous activities, like parachuting, racing and skiing, that don't hurt anyone else unless someone goes way overboard.

67 posted on 12/21/2012 1:09:24 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: DoughtyOne

Lets not forget what we allow to be taught in schools. Some pretty twisted crap is being dumped on kids at an early age these days.


68 posted on 12/21/2012 1:10:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I obviously don’t disagree with your emphasis. I’m not sure what it’s like in your area, but in mine many Conservatives have abandoned the public school system. It’s pointless to try to change something that is from top to bottom run by government funds and owned by Leftists.

As was already touched on, see if you can find even one teacher who will train and carry. That’s how bad it is.


69 posted on 12/21/2012 1:17:01 PM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
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To: rarestia

I wouldn’t want the state to do it. Let the local government handle this. I would not bring more fed/state involvement into schools. Dangerous road. Imo.


70 posted on 12/21/2012 1:17:17 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: cripplecreek

Couldn’t agree more. Point me to even one teacher’s group made up of current teachers that objects.

That’s why I get a big kick out of the teachers on the forum that say most teachers aren’t a part of it.


71 posted on 12/21/2012 1:19:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne (How about a waiting period for putting crazies out on the streets, say a million years or so.)
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To: BitWielder1

There are teachers in that school that moved to protect children in their classrooms, all the while listening to gun fire and screaming. Teachers in the next rooms or across the hall.

I would not want to be one of them. Had just one adult been able to get down that hall and behind, this would be a different story altogether. Even someone with a knife. Or two people.

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That gun shop, too, was ‘raided.’ Gotta get rid of any records that show something other than the official ‘story.’


72 posted on 12/21/2012 1:21:25 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Paladin2
Pull all the cops from the courthouses and put them in the schools. They could win the WoD at the same time.

Humorous exaggeration, right? You don't really think the bulk of the nation's drug traffic passes through schools?

73 posted on 12/21/2012 1:29:11 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: rarestia

Once there is an LEO at every school, and once steps have been taken to harden every school, and once the search of each child’s backpack and person — as well as all school personal and visitors, everyone will now be safe, sure ... right? I have a question.

How are you going to protect a busload of kids... at each and every stop?

Perhaps the schools could transport the kids in Loomis trucks.

This stuff can go on forever.

It’s a shame that so many people don’t RAISE their children anymore, they simply watch little people grow into big people.


74 posted on 12/21/2012 1:30:58 PM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Most users attended at some point.


75 posted on 12/21/2012 1:31:35 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: rarestia

FReeped!


76 posted on 12/21/2012 1:31:35 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: rarestia

Yes(75%)
No(25%)


77 posted on 12/21/2012 1:34:02 PM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: Paladin2
Pull all the cops from the courthouses and put them in the schools. They could win the WoD at the same time.

Humorous exaggeration, right? You don't really think the bulk of the nation's drug traffic passes through schools?

Most users attended at some point.

More humor? Most serial killers attended at some point - does it follow that pulling all the cops from the courthouses and putting them in the schools could end serial killing?

78 posted on 12/21/2012 1:36:49 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Why are the cops in the courthouses?


79 posted on 12/21/2012 1:40:46 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: rarestia

I have spoken to several retired Corrections Officers who are fully weapons trained who say they would gladly spend a day a week at the school in return for nothing more than a free meal from the school cafeteria. While I think this a viable idea, I think teachers and staff who WISH to CCW at work should be tested and enabled. The more good guys that can respond, the faster the event is terminated.


80 posted on 12/21/2012 1:40:46 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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