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Michael Steele: NRA presser was ‘disturbing’ (RINO Alert)
Politco ^ | 12/21/12 12:01 PM EST | KEVIN CIRILLI

Posted on 12/21/2012 4:15:56 PM PST by Red Steel

Former RNC Chairman Michael Steele called the National Rifle Association Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre’s press conference Friday “very haunting and very disturbing,” in the wake of the Dec. 14 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

“I don’t even know where to begin. As a supporter of the Second Amendment and a supporter of the NRA — even though I’m not a member of the NRA — I just found it very haunting and very disturbing that our country now is talking about arming our teachers and our principals in classrooms,” Steele said on MSNBC immediately after LaPierre finished his comments.

Steele continued: “What does that say about us? What does that say about us? I do not believe that is where the American people want to go. I do not believe that is the response that should be coming out of the tragedy out of Newtown.”

Delaware State Attorney General Beau Biden — who is Vice President Joe Biden’s son — said there wasn’t a meaningful dialogue in the press conference, in which LaPierre did not take reporters’ questions.

Biden added: “[There] has to be a much more robust and meaningful dialogue about whether there are certain types of weapons consistent with the second amendment … that just shouldn’t be in the hands of citizens other than those types of assault weapons that you take to battle that don’t belong in our communities. And that’s the discussion that I hope we have in a meaningful way.”


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1 posted on 12/21/2012 4:16:00 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Why was this emotionally compromised idiot ever allowed a position of authority?


2 posted on 12/21/2012 4:20:00 PM PST by wastedyears (I don't want to live on this planet anymore.)
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To: Red Steel

Affirmative Action alert.


3 posted on 12/21/2012 4:20:34 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Red Steel
Israel armed their teachers after the Ma'alot Massacre, and hasn't had a similar event since... in 40 years.

What exactly is "haunting" about this?

4 posted on 12/21/2012 4:21:40 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: Red Steel

Well! He pretty sums up the RINO party. After all, he was the head of it during the last throttling by the left.

We have no support at all! We are on our own and the only major group that supports citizens who are still free and intend to stay that way is the NRA.

I’m proud to say that I am a member and hope many others join. It is probably our last salvation.


5 posted on 12/21/2012 4:21:40 PM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Red Steel

A liquor store is allowed more security then America’s kids.

What does that say?


6 posted on 12/21/2012 4:26:24 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: Red Steel
A-HOLE.
7 posted on 12/21/2012 4:26:59 PM PST by twister881
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To: Names Ash Housewares

These people have the brains of mush.


8 posted on 12/21/2012 4:27:28 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
And Biden, Jr. complaining that no questions were taken...after David Keene, NRA president, said they would answer questions on Monday.

Another: A-HOLE.

9 posted on 12/21/2012 4:30:25 PM PST by twister881
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To: Red Steel
disturbing that our country now is talking about arming our teachers and our principals in classrooms,

Prior to Michigan's "shall issue" bill being passed in 2000, taking effect in 2001, teachers with CPL's carried in their respective schools. Unfortunately that bill also created the "gun free zones" which made it illegal for them to carry any more.......

One of my best friends was a vice-principal in Warren, MI, and not only he but a number of other male teachers carried concealed until the law passed.

And for what it's worth, they would regularly visit a local shooting range to practice their skills........

The dumbest argument I just heard on Fox was by some dumbass babe who stated that "billions of dollars" would need to be spent to arm our schools with security personnel..and nobody challenged her.

10 posted on 12/21/2012 4:32:59 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Red Steel
And Brit Twit, criminal wiretapping version of an: A-HOLE.


11 posted on 12/21/2012 4:36:14 PM PST by twister881
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To: Red Steel
The problem is not the arming of principles / teachers or the st,atoning of armed guards. The problem is the moral decay that has led us to this point. We should all be afraid. Civilization is splitting into good and evil camps. If our society does not stomp down on evil hard, evil is going to win.
12 posted on 12/21/2012 4:38:45 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Red Steel
I agree our public schools and the medias culture of death are teaching the children that life has no value. That's a given. BUT, the armed guards at school is a bad idea. Instead, allow the staff that wants to have self defense to have it, and allow those school members who don't want to defend themselves to opt out.
There will be psychos. If not a gun, a machete. If not that, a bomb or a gas. If a nut job wants to kill, a nut job will find a way to get it done.
For example. There were no calls to outlaw planes after 9/11. That's makes as much sense as outlawing the best means of self defense, our privately owned arms. In fact, simple box cutters - not guns - led to over 3,000 dead people that day. The muslims wanted to kill, so they found a way to kill.
It's never the weapon. Box cutters and planes can do nothing on their own. It's ALWAYS, every time, without exception, the person behind the chosen weapon that makes it work.
13 posted on 12/21/2012 4:38:45 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Red Steel
“What does that say about us?

Well to begin with, it says that you are idiot. The only way to have saved all those kids in Sandy Hook, and most of the teachers that died, would have been to have armed security or armed teachers. That is the ONLY way their lives could have been saved. Nothing you do now or do in the future can bring them back to life. They are dead, because you failed to protect them. All that matters right now, are all those children and teachers who will be sitting in those classrooms on Monday, completely unprotected because you care what people say about you.

FYI - Some of the terrorist that will soon be attacking us, cannot even read English. And some of those Fast and Furious military grade weapons, are sitting in Los Angeles right now.

14 posted on 12/21/2012 4:44:51 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Red Steel

Re: As a supporter of the Second Amendment and a supporter of the NRA — even though I’m not a member of the NRA

Yeah, sure you’re a supporter Mike. You traitorous scum.


15 posted on 12/21/2012 4:45:09 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: DH

You nailed it.

Steele is acting just like a liberal: a totally emotional and irrational response to the most logical solution for protecting school children possible - at least one armed guard per school, larger schools with more - and arming teachers/administration.

Only problem with the 2nd part is 90% of public school teachers and administrators are anti-gun Marxists and liberals who will NEVER allow weapons in schools and never carry themselves.

Thus, only in Texas, Oklahoma, Alaska, Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama and South Carolina could armed teachers/admin work........


16 posted on 12/21/2012 4:46:19 PM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: Red Steel

You conservatives best realize that the time for debate with leftists has long passed. The commies and Nazis will not debate you, they will demonize you, and you conservatives best realize that you need to demonize the leftist commies and Nazis in turn. Call them the every vile name you can think of. Trail these America-haters to dark parking lots and kick their butts.

We are at war.


17 posted on 12/21/2012 4:47:16 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Red Steel

What is up with these supposed Republicans who are becoming Dems right before my eyes. I think the guy on Red Eye last night said it best, the Republican Party is becoming the Pussy Party..just going along with Dems anyway they can.


18 posted on 12/21/2012 4:48:58 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Red Steel
I thought Wayne LaPierre did okay, and I don't even care for the man. 'Twas the first act, and Michael Steele didn't like it.

So what? To he frank, I'd be surprised - and I'd probably re-assess my own opinion - if Steele DID like it. This melanin-enhanced version of the linguini-spined nonentities the GOP-e puts into the RNC chair is "haunted and disturbed" by what LaPierre said? Bullshit. He's just trying to sound profound about the latest beltway cause du jour and avoid pissing off his meal tickets.

Mr. niteowl77

19 posted on 12/21/2012 4:49:37 PM PST by niteowl77 (Oh, crap.)
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To: Red Steel

RNC Chairman Michael Steele should be released from his position immediately for such an irrational and hateful expression.

The Sandy Hook massacre victims deserved to be protected. As do our children in schools nationally.

How dare Steele say otherwise! Shame on Michael Steele and the GOP party officials for allowing him to continue in his position!


20 posted on 12/21/2012 4:50:11 PM PST by TheDon (Criminalizing self defense contributed to the Sandy Hook massacre.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
...some dumbass babe who stated that "billions of dollars" would need to be spent to arm our schools with security personnel..and nobody challenged her.

As I recall, LaPierre said the NRA would do the planning and training for free.

I wonder if she ever heard of "volunteer firefighters" who fight fires just as well as any unionized firemen? America (outside of the union infested cities) is full of them. They drive very shiny trucks and do a great job - just like in the city!

I suspect if the program is instituted, there will be millions of volunteers willing and able to be trained and used in the schools to protect their kids, grand kids, friends, and community. Remember, the idea is deterrence. However, if that fails, it is to delay or neutralize the killer(s) until the cops arrive. That can't be done with a bigger ABSOLUTELY NO GUNS ALLOWED sign.

The cost is embarrassingly minimal to institute and run such a program. Volunteers will gladly provide their own (approved) weapons. The schools can provide the radios and a "healthy" lunch. However, if we let the unionized lard asses like the TSA in the act, it will fail miserably and cost those "billions of dollars" bubble head is wringing her soft pretty little hands about.

21 posted on 12/21/2012 4:51:12 PM PST by Gritty (If any of the Western world is to survive, it has to find a way to turn around, to go back-Mk Steyn)
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To: sergeantdave

Bump to your post!


22 posted on 12/21/2012 4:51:55 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Red Steel

These morons prefer slaughters.


23 posted on 12/21/2012 4:52:51 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Red Steel
Training should have commenced promptly after Sept. 11, 2001.

Any notion that schools would not be targets was bluntly and tragically made invalid when terrorists struck in Beslan, Russia, Sept. 1, 2004, resulting in over 300 dead.

If the perp last week had been a member of Islamic jihad, many school administrators and teachers would be the subject of: Why were *you* not better prepared!?

24 posted on 12/21/2012 4:53:00 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Red Steel

Up until liberals finally took over the school systems and “feelings” became more important then “thinking” guns were not only allowed in schools, many had rifle teams.

In the mid west school kids would take their trusty rifles to school so they could do some hunting on the way back.

Also, the ROTC before being ran off campus had real weapons to train on (and the let us don’t forget the drill teams). I laugh every time I see the modern equivalent of a drill team with a painted 2x4 in place of a real rifle.

Guns are not the problem. Banning guns will not solve the real problem.

In truth, it is a mental health problem. If all guns were to magically disappear overnight, a mentally sick person who wanted to kill a lot of people could still do it.

As it is now, “gun free zones” just lets someone who wants an easy target know where to find it.

At one point in time I believed it was possible to persuade a liberal with clear cut ideas and facts. After many years I have concluded that fact do not matter to liberals. The truth does not matter to liberals. The only thing that matters to them is that they get their way on everything.

If you disagree with them, you are demonized. Either individually or as a group.

I do think the average liberal is going to like the world they are trying to create. One were the state owns everything including your labor. One where only the state can decide who lives and who dies. One where only the state can decide who succeed and who will fail.

Individuals have no place in this brave new world.

If past history is any example, once the ruling elite can full control, one of the first thing they do is purge all the useful idiots that helped them on the way.


25 posted on 12/21/2012 4:55:06 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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To: Red Steel

Steel is wrong, but so is Wayne LaPierre. Blaming games or movies is the same as blaming guns. It was a deeply disturbed individual who committed this terrible crime. Why can’t we stop blaming what we opposed and just accept personal responsibility?


26 posted on 12/21/2012 4:57:58 PM PST by deltabean (Born free, die free.)
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To: Red Steel

LaPierre is a disaster. Not only should he not have commented, he is a horrible speaker. The NRA isn’t responsible for Sandy Hook any more than GM is responsible for drunk driver fatalities.


27 posted on 12/21/2012 5:01:41 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Red Steel

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2970615/posts

Milwaukee Sheriff calls for armed guards in every school. David Clarke said this 2 days before the NRA.


28 posted on 12/21/2012 5:04:54 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Arlis

Mike Steele is what he is.


29 posted on 12/21/2012 5:06:04 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Red Steel

I want to know what protection these guys have?? do they carry, are thier bodyguards carying? what kind of guns do they have???? lets get this out there people! Are they anymore important than our children?


30 posted on 12/21/2012 5:09:33 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Being Breitbart)
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To: Teacher317

There is a good picture on this link. I still don’t know how to post a picture here.

http://teejaw.com/2011/07/23/murder-in-norway/


31 posted on 12/21/2012 5:13:04 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Red Steel

Safety is not the issue and never has been the issue. Getting all guns out of the hands of the public is the issue. It was fifty years ago, twenty five years ago, and is the issue now.

Again, safety is not the issue, getting guns out of private hands and into government hands is the issue.


32 posted on 12/21/2012 5:13:46 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: Red Steel

This pinhead is the poster child for what is wrong with the RNC.


33 posted on 12/21/2012 5:15:35 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Red Steel

While they’re at it, they should legalize dueling with the DC confines so big mouthed communists in Congress would think twice before they lie and dishonor real Americans.


34 posted on 12/21/2012 5:17:39 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Red Steel

So it’s more important to guard bank vaults, judges, and city council meetings than to guard kids. STFU, Mikey.


35 posted on 12/21/2012 5:20:46 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: TheDon

He’s not the Chairman anymore.


36 posted on 12/21/2012 5:20:49 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Red Steel

“As a supporter of the Second Amendment and a supporter of the NRA....”

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First he says that he supports the NRA and then he says that he is not a member.

Then how do we know that he supports the NRA? I really see no difference between RINOs and demokrats. They’re both born to lie.


37 posted on 12/21/2012 5:21:23 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Red Steel
I was a little disturbed by the conference, but not for the same reason as the MSNBCer Steele. Wayne LaPierre should have stressed the right of every individual to defend himself & others with a gun, with the emphasis on individual; thus, with regard to schools, the solution is to encourage the training & arming of school principals, administrators & teachers. Instead, LaPierre seemed to outline a government-centric, cop-in-every-school approach, and even lobbied to federal monies to fund this program.

Besides being outside the American philosophical tradition, LaPierre's approach is less effective, because when there's a single or couple identifiable defenders with guns, they can be taken out by a killer who plans a little ahead. But an armed militia of citizens - with an indefinite membership - cannot be so eliminated.

38 posted on 12/21/2012 5:21:44 PM PST by BCrago66
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To: fieldmarshaldj

That was quick!


39 posted on 12/21/2012 5:36:02 PM PST by TheDon (Criminalizing self defense contributed to the Sandy Hook massacre.)
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To: Red Steel

The GOP is not a friend of conservatives


40 posted on 12/21/2012 5:36:28 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Red Steel

This is the same idiot who once told a magazine he loved “Frank Sinatra and the Pack Rats”! He’s a guy with an IQ of 40 pretending to be profound.


41 posted on 12/21/2012 5:41:40 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: Red Steel

What does it say about us?

It says that a rather large number of us are sick and tired of watching the policies you idiots enact get people killed. Thats what it says.

Next question.


42 posted on 12/21/2012 5:43:49 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Red Steel
Steele's not very honest. The RNC should find some humility and try to redeem itself with voters instead of working exclusively for the socialist political/regulator class.

Remarks from the NRA press conference on Sandy Hook school shooting, delivered on Dec. 21, 2012 (Transcript)
' (Washington Post)
LAPIERRE: Now, the National Rifle Association knows there are millions of qualified and active retired police, active, Reserve, and retired military, security professionals, certified firefighters, security professionals, rescue personnel, an extraordinary corps of patriotic, trained, qualified citizens to join with local school officials and police in devising a protection plan for every single school.
We could deploy them to protect our kids now. We can immediately make America’s schools safer, relying on the brave men and women in America’s police forces.



43 posted on 12/21/2012 5:45:22 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: TheDon

To the point, he hasn’t been the Chairman since January 2011. We did as well as we did in the 2010 midterms in spite of his incompetence, not because of his skills.


44 posted on 12/21/2012 5:49:08 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: BCrago66
when there's a single or couple identifiable defenders with guns,

In many schools security people are not in uniform.

45 posted on 12/21/2012 5:53:29 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: deltabean
"Blaming games or movies" will divide the left against itself and waste the socialists' time instead of ours. It's a strategy. And don't worry, entertainment for the sick, lame and lazy won't be disturbed. The arguments against hideous entertainment have been launched and drowned in endless discussions many times before, and look at the state of entertainment now. [I've played FPS computer games and still prefer gardening and enjoying the peaceful life in the middle of nowhere. ...even though I'm gettin' kinda old. ;-) None of us really believe that computer games make people evil. Evil people were spoiled rotten and improperly reared, most often by the more libertine single parents of the social left.]


46 posted on 12/21/2012 5:54:56 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Red Steel
our country now is talking about arming our teachers and our principals in classrooms

I knew they had armed guards at schools in Israel. I was surprised to learn they also do this in Peru and in the Philippines. Granted, those countries have terrorist problems, but we're getting to that point.

47 posted on 12/21/2012 6:08:45 PM PST by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: deltabean

“Blaming games or movies is the same as blaming guns.”

No, your wrong... Games and movies use marketing to promote their products, using killing seines to promote their products. When have you ever seen that with firearms mfg’s?


48 posted on 12/21/2012 6:17:08 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Red Steel

Sick of the MSM running to Mark Kelly for his opinion on the NRA.

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/20406657/2012/12/21/mark-kelly-takes-aim-at-nras


49 posted on 12/21/2012 6:22:26 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: Red Steel

Michael Steele—he just keeps rising from the CINO crypt, just when you had hoped you had heard the last of his idiocies.


50 posted on 12/21/2012 6:23:00 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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