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Judge in Gabby Giffords trial calls for assault weapons ban
nydailynews.com ^ | December 21, 2012 | Bill Hutchinson

Posted on 12/21/2012 6:55:00 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

The federal judge who sentenced former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' gunman is advocating a nationwide ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines to take the "mass out of mass shootings." "There is just no reason civilians need to own assault weapons and high-capacity magazines," Judge Larry Allan Burns wrote in Thursday's Los Angeles Times.

Since Jared Lee Loughner killed six people and wounded Giffords with his 31-round magazine Glock pistol, there have been six deadlier mass shootings, Burns wrote.

"But reasonable, good-faith debates have boundaries, and in the debate about guns, a high-capacity magazine has always seemed to me beyond them," he wrote.

He noted that Adam Lanza used a semiautomatic rifle with a 30-round magazine to slaughter 20 first-graders and 6 staffers at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

James Holmes, the accused gunman in the Aurora, Colo., movie theater massacre that left 12 people dead and 58 others wounded, used a rifle with a 100-round drum, he added.

While admitting it might not prevent the next crazed gunman from going on a rampage, Burns said taking away high-capacity magazines could cut down on casualties.

"We might be able to take the 'mass' out of 'mass shooting,' or at least make the perpetrator's job a bit harder," wrote Burns, adding that he is a gun owner and a conservative appointed to the federal bench by former President George W. Bush.

Burns suggested that at a minimum the federal assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 should be brought back "with some teeth this times."

"Ban the manufacture, importation, sale, transfer and possession of both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines," he wrote.

"Don't let people who already have them keep them. Don't let ones that have already been manufactured stay on the market," he suggested, referring to two provisions in the old assault weapons ban. "I don't care whether it's called gun control or a gun ban. I'm for it."


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1 posted on 12/21/2012 6:55:07 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

This judge should never, ever be allowed to hear a 2A case ever in his life.


2 posted on 12/21/2012 6:57:50 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Judge. You are an idiot. You should be removed from the bench immediately. You punk communist tool.


3 posted on 12/21/2012 6:58:12 PM PST by shankbear (The tree of Liberty appears to be perishing because there are few patriots willing to refresh it.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

With a 10 round magazine Giffords would still have been shot, another shot, Judge Roll killed and several others killed.

The first three rounds hit three people. A limited 10 rd mag would have made no difference.


4 posted on 12/21/2012 6:59:02 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL INSTITUTIONS! Damn the ACLU!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Don't let people who already have them keep them. Don't let ones that have already been manufactured stay on the market," he suggested, referring to two provisions in the old assault weapons ban. "I don't care whether it's called gun control or a gun ban. I'm for it."

And we thought all the nazis were dead and gone.
5 posted on 12/21/2012 6:59:02 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Don't let people who already have them keep them.

You come take them then. Yeah, that's what I thought...

6 posted on 12/21/2012 6:59:25 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"There is just no reason civilians need to own assault weapons and high-capacity magazines,"

No, just arm them with beanbags like the Border Patrol...

BTW, are armed Mexican cartels 'civilians' too?

7 posted on 12/21/2012 6:59:40 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Money see, monkey do.


8 posted on 12/21/2012 7:00:32 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (You cannot prevent evil. You can only defend against it.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Mark Kelly takes aim at NRA’s “defiant” statement”
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/20406657/2012/12/21/mark-kelly-takes-aim-at-nras


9 posted on 12/21/2012 7:00:41 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

There will be other mass shootings in the years to come, and this myopic appeal for banning and confiscation will grow louder.

It is the exchange of freedom for safety.


10 posted on 12/21/2012 7:01:22 PM PST by lurk
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Another judge who has a problem with the Bill of Rights. There’s a lot of that going around these days.


11 posted on 12/21/2012 7:02:20 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (U.S. elections have become nothing but another cheap ripoff of American Idol.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

He is entitled to his opinion as wrong as it is.

His being the Judge at the Giffords trial means nothing to me and should mean nothing to anyone else.
He expresses himself as one man, one man who has a right to an opinion as do I.

His trying to use his office as though he should be considered an expert should mean no more than the opinion of any other American, but simply exposes his bias, and Judges should not be biased.


12 posted on 12/21/2012 7:02:20 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Tailgunner Joe

oopsy, didn’t see the post until after scroll. :(


13 posted on 12/21/2012 7:02:30 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline, (it's back). 2008, the Decline of America)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Let's compare and contrast...

"There is just no reason civilians need to own assault weapons and high-capacity magazines," - Judge Larry Allan Burns

"Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State." - Heinrich Himmler

14 posted on 12/21/2012 7:02:42 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: lurk
It is the exchange of freedom for safety.

It wouldn't improve safety a whit.

It's the exchange for freedom for the Leftist agenda of control.

15 posted on 12/21/2012 7:04:36 PM PST by okie01
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To: Tailgunner Joe

reasonable people have absolutely no prolem with high capacity magazines. we have problems with people who don’t understand what the 2a is all about. we have problems with gun-free zones where these idiots go to shoot unarmed defenseless people made defenseless by the libtard idiots themselves.


16 posted on 12/21/2012 7:07:55 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Red Steel

they won’t they’ll send their minions to take em.


17 posted on 12/21/2012 7:09:01 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: lurk

safety? who’s safer disarmed?


18 posted on 12/21/2012 7:09:31 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

They want a war.


19 posted on 12/21/2012 7:10:41 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: okie01

if not having guns makes eveyone safer, disarm the police, the secret service, and the military. make government live under the same laws.


20 posted on 12/21/2012 7:10:50 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Another commie judge sweating that he’ll be hanged from a lamppost by men armed with rifles.


21 posted on 12/21/2012 7:13:29 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The number of innocents killed due to criminal misuse of firearms pales in comparison to the excesses of governments who exceed their authority.

This judge is calling for the dead of thousands.


22 posted on 12/21/2012 7:14:05 PM PST by nonsporting
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To: Venturer

This is a sitting federal judge who has stated a bias against the Second Amendment. Having stated that bias publicly, he should recuse himself from every case that involves firearms from now until doomsday...which obviously wasn’t today.


23 posted on 12/21/2012 7:14:41 PM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: Secret Agent Man
“There is just no reason civilians need to own assault weapons and high-capacity magazines,” Judge Larry Allan Burns wrote in Thursday's Los Angeles Times”

If not for Judges whom have no understanding of the rights they are sworn to protect or the fascist Governments that believe the same, he might have a case.... Right LOL!

24 posted on 12/21/2012 7:15:45 PM PST by DAC21
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To: nonsporting
"....death of thousands."
25 posted on 12/21/2012 7:17:10 PM PST by nonsporting
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To: Tailgunner Joe

An AR-15 has no more functionality than a Colt .45 Model 1873 Single Action Revolver. It is true the the AR-15 legally has a magazine capacity of four more bullets, but who needs the extra bullet capacity when you want to cap some maniac trying to gun down shoppers? With both guns, each time you pull the trigger, the gun shoots one bullet. Why is such a function so controversial?

If we want to go with single shot technology, I will go with my .50 muzzle loader. Fifty caliber can take off a leg.


26 posted on 12/21/2012 7:18:31 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Venturer
His being the Judge at the Giffords trial means nothing to me and should mean nothing to anyone else.

Actually I find that part particularly ironic. By all rights Loughner should have been locked up as a public menace long before this happened. The justice system shirked it's responsibility because of his relationship to a public official. That made him our problem, and if they're going to make him our problem we're entitled to the tools we deem fit to deal with it. IMHO.

27 posted on 12/21/2012 7:19:11 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
if not having guns makes eveyone safer, disarm the police, the secret service, and the military. make government live under the same laws.

When it comes to guns, the Left is completely irrational -- even hysterical.

Their leadership isn't -- they know what they want: Control.

But the Useful Idiots who follow them go berserk at the mere mention of "gun". Seemingly, they've never been hunting, never been in the military, never handled one. As a consequence, what a ten year old farm boy would consider a "varmint gun" a suburban housewife would consider a "scary assault weapon" -- followed by shrieks of fear.

Kryptonite, in .22 caliber.

There's just no accounting for liberal ignorance.

28 posted on 12/21/2012 7:22:14 PM PST by okie01
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To: SpaceBar

Very apt quote.


29 posted on 12/21/2012 7:24:52 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Do these idiots have any idea how fast a person can change a magazine with a bit of practice?


30 posted on 12/21/2012 7:25:49 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"There is just no reason civilians peasants need to own assault weapons and high-capacity magazines," Judge Larry Allan Burns. GW Bush appointee - another RINO...
31 posted on 12/21/2012 7:32:01 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: cripplecreek

Guess that is why we have them. Weren’t the Brits out to take the colonists weapons at Lexington and Concorde? The royal class never learns.


32 posted on 12/21/2012 7:48:59 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Is he the judge who handed a SWAT team permission to fill Jose Guerena with bullet holes in his house with his wife and toddler watching?


33 posted on 12/21/2012 7:53:20 PM PST by petitfour
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Burns, appointed to the federal bench by former President George W. Bush.

Bush?

Yet another Bush appointee?

That name always seems to pop up.

34 posted on 12/21/2012 7:54:12 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

>> “There is just no reason civilians need to own assault weapons and high-capacity magazines,” Judge Larry Allan Burns wrote in Thursday’s Los Angeles Times.

Interesting positioning of “just”.

I can think of one just reason civilians should continue to have the right.


35 posted on 12/21/2012 8:01:12 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

This judge is a joke.

Judges get courthouses declared as “gun free zones” then give themselves an exemption to carry.

Freaking hypocrites.


36 posted on 12/21/2012 8:05:14 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Bathhouse Barry wants YOU to bend over for another four years)
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BTW, dipshit, the Conservative Federal judge also murdered by Loughner would likely disagree with this pathetic assessment.


37 posted on 12/21/2012 8:08:59 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: RC one

“They want a war.” Why, yes RC one. Yes they do.


38 posted on 12/21/2012 8:30:20 PM PST by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis in Extremis)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Imagine if the media we presented with the option to either exclude a shooter’s name in their print or broadcast media or face losing their FCC license or be jailed/fined...think they’d be upset on that “common sense” regulation on the 1st Amendment?

All including their name does is give them the infamy they seek.They’re aiding and abetting.


39 posted on 12/21/2012 8:37:18 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Red Steel

LEGAL PRIVATE PROPERTY, bought and paid for, and this nincompoop thinks it should be seized by the King’s men??? 1,000 + years of Anglo-Saxon common law right down the tubes, just like that, eh “Judge”?/s


40 posted on 12/21/2012 9:08:52 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: okie01

Of course.

People reach for the safety as a reflex, not knowing that the loss of freedom is the cost. It’s an impulse purchase.


41 posted on 12/21/2012 9:31:00 PM PST by lurk
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To: SpaceBar

“There is just no reason civilians need to own assault weapons and high-capacity magazines,” - Judge Larry Allan Burns”

We need them to fight tin horn tyrants like this judge.


42 posted on 12/21/2012 9:36:41 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows
If they ban a salt weapons what are we going to use to spice up our food?!


43 posted on 12/21/2012 9:41:57 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: lurk

Once the exchange is complete then the sheeple will realize they have none of both.

But then it will be to late.


44 posted on 12/21/2012 10:03:50 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Impeach him


45 posted on 12/21/2012 10:06:51 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: Tailgunner Joe
""There is just no reason civilians need to own assault weapons and high-capacity magazines,"

Is there ANY damn leftist in the USA that hasn't uttered those precise words in the last week?

46 posted on 12/21/2012 10:11:33 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: LegendHasIt; Tailgunner Joe
""There is just no reason civilians need to own assault weapons and high-capacity magazines,"

Similarly, there is no reason for liberal judges and their friends to hold wine & cheese parties when beer busts would do just as well.

47 posted on 12/21/2012 10:19:18 PM PST by okie01
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Don’t let people who already have them keep them.”

Molon labe.


48 posted on 12/21/2012 10:26:57 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: MestaMachine

Judge Larry Allan Burns

Hey Larry!!! shut your stupid Mouth.


49 posted on 12/21/2012 11:25:04 PM PST by LtKerst
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Judge in Gabby Giffords trial calls for assault weapons ban"

I say ban left-wing activist judges who have broken their oath to defend the Constitution.

 


50 posted on 12/21/2012 11:54:24 PM PST by CaptainKrunch (Just give me my freedom. I'll provide my own security.)
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