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What Piers Morgan doesn’t want you to know about Britain and violent crime (US has low crime rate)
the Right scoop ^ | December 21, 2012

Posted on 12/23/2012 8:11:08 AM PST by Hojczyk

National Review posted this yesterday and this is perhaps why Piers Morgan gets all interrupty when someone tries to explain how bad violent crime is in Great Britain:

According to the Mail, Britons suffer 1,158,957 violent crimes per year, which works out at 2,034 per 100,000 residents. By contrast the number in notoriously violent South Africa is 1,609 per 100,000.

The U.S., meanwhile, has a rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, which is lower than France’s, at 504; Finland’s, at 738; Sweden’s, at 1123; and Canada’s at 935.

As a result of both the different ways in which these statistics are collected and of varying definitions of “violent crime,” there will naturally be some discrepancies between countries. Enough to account for a 5:1 difference between Britain and the United States, though? I rather think not.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; piersmorgan; secondamendment; thedailymail; unitedkingdom

1 posted on 12/23/2012 8:11:12 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

What about what Piers doesn’t want you to know about why he’s here and not working in England?
What was his involvement in that hacking scandal?


2 posted on 12/23/2012 8:14:52 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Hojczyk
Discussing this exact same issue elsewhere (the runaway rate of violent crime in Europe) I discovered the Brits don't want us to count street hooliganism as violent crime ~ even if they do curb stomp victims and leave people paralyzed or maimed for life.

Strange discovering the Brits want to protect some crimes!

3 posted on 12/23/2012 8:19:55 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Farmer Dean

I can’t understand why we would have to outsource a socialist/communist propagandist. Don’t we have a qualified communist sympathizing propagandist from our own country willing to work for his wage? Or is he just doing the jobs Americans won’t do?


4 posted on 12/23/2012 8:30:45 AM PST by nobamanomore
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To: muawiyah

Can it be that they are embarrassed that they’ve allowed their “Asian” problem to get the better of them?


5 posted on 12/23/2012 8:44:23 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: muawiyah
Discussing this exact same issue elsewhere (the runaway rate of violent crime in Europe) I discovered the Brits don't want us to count street hooliganism as violent crime ~ even if they do curb stomp victims and leave people paralyzed or maimed for life.

Strange discovering the Brits want to protect some crimes!

I recall reading that the rates of strong-arm robberies and home invasion style robberies, where the owners are home, are far higher in England than the US. This, of course is never reported. The question is "why?" While the convicted criminals in England haven't been interviewed, there have been a number of publicized interviews with convicted criminals stating that they're a lot more scared of an armed "victim" than they are of the police.

Something that's pretty much axiomatic, both in nature and in human criminal activity, is that "predators," whether of the two or four legged variety, always seek out the weakest "prey," and tend to avoid prey that is able to defend itself whenever possible.

Mark

6 posted on 12/23/2012 8:46:59 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Hojczyk

Get the hell out of my country you Obnoxious loathesome phony!

Oh I forgot, Piers is facing criminal charges there and higher taxes.

Deport this expletive deleted.


7 posted on 12/23/2012 9:01:04 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: Hojczyk

Get the hell out of my country you Obnoxious loathesome phony!

Oh I forgot, Piers is facing criminal charges there and higher taxes.

Deport this expletive deleted.


8 posted on 12/23/2012 9:01:04 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: muawiyah
One dirty little secret about UK culture Piers Morgan would be ashamed of, if he has any capability of shame, the cute pastime of happy slapping This particular incident had a "happy" ending, but it seems to be a n epidemic all over the UK. But hey, no guns used, so it's all good/s
9 posted on 12/23/2012 9:08:07 AM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Hojczyk

When Britain confiscated all handguns, in a kristallnacht-like action, violent crime went through the roof immediately.

The worst violence came out of foreign influx from locations like Jamaica, a crime nest heavily influenced by the CIA (William Casey, to be exact).

The globalists have waged violent war on us for at least ageneration.


10 posted on 12/23/2012 9:08:35 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: MarkL; JohnLott; Joe Brower; Jim Robinson

Your summary is right on target: “Something that’s pretty much axiomatic, both in nature and in human criminal activity, is that “predators,” whether of the two or four legged variety, always seek out the weakest “prey,” and tend to avoid prey that is able to defend itself whenever possible.”

“National Review posted this yesterday and this is perhaps why Piers Morgan gets all interrupty when someone tries to explain how bad violent crime is in Great Britain: According to the Mail, Britons suffer 1,158,957 violent crimes per year, which works out at 2,034 per 100,000 residents. By contrast the number in notoriously violent South Africa is 1,609 per 100,000. The U.S., meanwhile, has a rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, which is lower than France’s, at 504; Finland’s, at 738; Sweden’s, at 1123; and Canada’s at 935.”

Hopefully John Lott can address a few comments/questions I have re this data.

The data seems to back up John’s premise of “More guns = Less Crime.”, since we have more guns in the hands of citizens in America versus the above countries.

Now for my questions/comments:

1. Is our crime rate going down with the massive increase in citizen gun ownership since Obama as elected in 2008?

2. Have the other countries like England increased the bans on private gun ownership, which has driven up the crime rate in those countries.

3. Are more crimes against Americans per 1000 happening in Blue Cities in Blue States with the most severe gun rules/regulations?

4. Is the US crime rate down in Red States/ and or Red Cities with increased gun ownership and C&C laws?


11 posted on 12/23/2012 9:10:51 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Tagline space for rent to pay for some of my extra taxes the next 4 years!)
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To: Hojczyk

Lefies in the press and in government are just hiding behind the schoolkids issue.

They aren’t afraid that sane, patriotic people will use their guns to shoot schoolkids.

They are afraid that ane but fed up patriots will shoot them to protect the nation and the constitution.


12 posted on 12/23/2012 9:10:56 AM PST by Iron Munro (I MISS AMERICA !)
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To: Hojczyk

Minus the cities, I suspect the global crime rate would fall to virtually nothing.


13 posted on 12/23/2012 9:23:27 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Hojczyk
The trick hoplophobes always use is to compare the number of people murdered by guns in the US versus someplace else.

They never want to compare the overall murder rate.

There is a reason for that.

14 posted on 12/23/2012 9:46:07 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Impala64ssa
One dirty little secret about UK culture Piers Morgan would be ashamed of, if he has any capability of shame, the cute pastime of happy slapping This particular incident had a "happy" ending, but it seems to be a n epidemic all over the UK. But hey, no guns used, so it's all good/s

Reminds me of the great scottish actor Tommy Flanagan who was given a "Chelsea grin" or "Glasgow grin"during a knife attack outside a club were he worked as a DJ.


15 posted on 12/23/2012 9:50:31 AM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: Hojczyk

One must always be cognizant of the fact that Piers Morgan is a SUBJECT of the Crown. We, however, are CITIZENS of the United States.


16 posted on 12/23/2012 9:56:33 AM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: sima_yi

Actually sovereign citizens.,,


17 posted on 12/23/2012 11:00:44 AM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: Hojczyk

Maybe he should tell everyone about the young drunks we see screaming across the headlines all of the time.


18 posted on 12/23/2012 11:01:34 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Hojczyk

It makes no sense to compare America to countries without a right to bear arms.


19 posted on 12/23/2012 11:54:30 AM PST by DMG2FUN
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To: Hojczyk

A couple of years ago, a Brit cab driver went berzerko and killed about 12 people with a shotgun. So their gun laws don’t prevent mass shootings either.


20 posted on 12/23/2012 5:13:45 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: rockrr
A Brit couple who moved here (their son is my sons buddy) will tell you in a heartbeat about the 'asian' problem.
The funny thing is, they seem to believe that the guys that resemble 'if Øbama had a son' are in no way similar.
21 posted on 12/23/2012 7:03:00 PM PST by 45semi (Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from existential evil.-Packwoods Law)
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To: Hojczyk

bkmk


22 posted on 12/24/2012 12:19:55 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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