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Catholic Patriarch: Christmas Marks 'Birth of Palestine State'
Arutz Sheva - Israel National News ^ | First Publish: 12/24/2012, 9:41 PM | Chana Ya'ar

Posted on 12/24/2012 7:21:23 PM PST by haffast

The Patriarch of Jerusalem's Roman Catholic Church declared Christmas is also a celebration of … the birth of the state of Palestine.”

The leader of the Roman Catholic Church in Jerusalem has added something new this year to the liturgy: Patriarch Fouad Twal declared the holiday of "Christmas is also a celebration of … the birth of the state of Palestine.”

The Jordanian-born Twal made the statement during a procession to Bethlehem, the birthplace of Jesus, where he is due to lead midnight mass at the Church of the Nativity.

The church in Manger Square and Bethlehem itself are today both considered part of the Palestinian Authority. One must pass through a checkpoint manned by armed PA security personnel in order to enter the city.

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The outpouring, although expected, is seen only on rare occasions these days as the “little town of Bethlehem” becomes more empty of the faithful each year. Its Muslim residents have increasingly harassed their Christian neighbors, prompting many to decide to leave the area and move to a more “peaceful” environment.

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In November, the U.N. General Assembly voted to pass a resolution granting the PA upgraded status as a nonmember observer state, similar to that of the Vatican. The move in essence circumvents the mandate to negotiate its final status with Israel, as delineated in the internationally-recognized Oslo Accords signed by both parties.

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bethlehem; jerusalem; jesus; twal
Patriarch hails Palestinian state - Updated: 25 December 2012 01:04

"The top Roman Catholic cleric in the Holy Land celebrated the United Nations' recent recognition of a Palestinian state in his annual pre-Christmas homily today, saying that while the road to actual freedom from Israeli occupation remains long, the Palestinian homeland has been born."

"Latin Patriarch Fouad Twal told followers at the patriarchate's headquarters in Jerusalem's Old City that this year's festivities were doubly joyful, celebrating "the birth of Christ our Lord and the birth of the state of Palestine".
http://news.uk.msn.com/world/patriarch-hails-palestinian-state

"Op-Ed: EXPOSÉ: Is the Vatican the Palestinian Arab Spokesman?”

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1 posted on 12/24/2012 7:21:43 PM PST by haffast
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To: haffast

Wow, that is just so incredibly wrong, from so many different directions, that it is just mind boggling.


2 posted on 12/24/2012 7:27:17 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

No way in hell would I equate the Birth of Jesus with the birth of Palestine.

What is this guy thinking?


3 posted on 12/24/2012 7:30:36 PM PST by Venturer
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To: haffast

Israel let this happen, perhaps, in hopes that the larger Christian world would finally get incensed when it saw some of its chief holy sites get overrun with Muslims.

Once they are through being useful idiots for a Muslim Pallie state, those Catholics will get ousted if not slaughtered.


4 posted on 12/24/2012 7:34:54 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: haffast

Delusional.


5 posted on 12/24/2012 7:35:11 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: haffast

W T F ???


6 posted on 12/24/2012 7:48:32 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: haffast

My invitation to Papists: Leave Rome. Come home to sanity; come home to Christ.


7 posted on 12/24/2012 7:49:20 PM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: haffast

He’s an idiot. He’s supports Israel’s enemies and God’s enemies - so he will reap an evil harvest!


8 posted on 12/24/2012 7:50:19 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Venturer
What is this guy thinking?

He's thinking the same thing the Pope is thinking.

9 posted on 12/24/2012 7:50:19 PM PST by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Stop it! Israel did not make this happen!


10 posted on 12/24/2012 7:52:06 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: haffast

The idiots at the link are blaming Protestant churches while the thread it about the Pope and what he is doing. Unbelievable! Christians support Israel and always have. Catholicism believes in replacement theology because they were taught that. Christians read/study the bible and know that’s not true.


11 posted on 12/24/2012 8:04:35 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Theo

Why would we leave Christ? We already have Him and He has us. We don’t want your sects. We’ll stay with the whole Christ and His Church. Thanks.


12 posted on 12/24/2012 8:14:09 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: Venturer

IF you are a “good Catholic”, then just listen to what your leadership says and say “yes, Father”...


13 posted on 12/24/2012 8:44:19 PM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Theo

Why would they want to come “Home” to Biblical/New Testament Christianity?


14 posted on 12/24/2012 8:48:42 PM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: vladimir998

There are like three rabid anti-Christian Papists on Free Republic. Vladimir is one of them.

If you do not abandon Rome and turn to Christ, you are doomed.

Just a warning. Turn to Christ. Leave Rome. Trust in Jesus alone.


15 posted on 12/24/2012 9:15:23 PM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: presently no screen name

I never said MAKE. I said LET. I’d do it too if I was in their spot.


16 posted on 12/24/2012 9:15:48 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: TheBattman

“In principle” they shouldn’t (e.g. “gay parishes”). In practice congregations are offered no means by which they can oust such blatant wickedness.


17 posted on 12/24/2012 9:18:39 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: haffast
Which is a gaffe that makes the Koran-kissing photo-op of the previous pope look like nothing:

“He also praised the Arab Spring uprisings, which have ousted four long-time dictators.”

And installed at least equally ruthless mobs/mobsters in their place? Is Rome truly that clueless about the secular side of current events? It's making Christianity look asinine.

18 posted on 12/24/2012 9:22:49 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: haffast
If there exists perversions in the lifetime of human cultures, why not also religions?

I expect, eventually, that human sacrifice will be reintroduced as the ultimate honor to the creator of all things.

Civilization may well be a pulsating endless series of changes between the sublime and the ultimate evil.

19 posted on 12/24/2012 11:26:44 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: Theo

Ah, what makes you think this guy is a papist, because you read it?

My advice to those so quick to criticize anything and that includes even the Church, get informed, much like you do aboutAmerican politics. Otherwise, stay out of piling on with leftist journalists. You run the risk of being a hypocrit.

By the way, The Vatican certanly has a position on this matter, and it is not the same as this guy’s.


20 posted on 12/25/2012 12:15:40 AM PST by stanne
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To: Theo

You wrote:

“There are like three rabid anti-Christian Papists on Free Republic.”

Actually there is no such thing as an “anti-Christian Papist” here or anywhere else.

“Vladimir is one of them.”

That’s flat out untrue, but anti-Catholics lie quite often so no better should be expected from such.

“If you do not abandon Rome and turn to Christ, you are doomed.”

I turned to Christ a long time ago - and that’s why I’m Catholic.

“Just a warning. Turn to Christ. Leave Rome. Trust in Jesus alone.”

I trust in Jesus - and the Church He sent. You’ll stick to your man-made sect and pay the price for your hubris and bigotry. And so it goes. Still, I wish you a Merry Christmas. It’s a shame you deny Christ by denigrating His Church. Perhaps you’ll one day come to know Christ better.


21 posted on 12/25/2012 12:17:19 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: HiTech RedNeck
In practice congregations are offered no means by which they can oust such blatant wickedness.

Sure they have a means... Its called doing what God-fearing Christians who want the TRUTH, not a lie have been doing for over 500 years... leave the apostate Catholic Church.

And before ANYONE attacks my for that statement - The Roman Catholic Church exercises a strict governance system that goes all the way to Rome. The church knows and ENDORSES these congregations (just as they allow churches in darkest 3rd World countries to teach a hybrid of Catholicism and animism or other pagan religions to keep people under the "roof" of the Catholic church). Any organization claiming to be the "True Church", yet teaches and allows within its own organization blatant ungodly, unscriptural, and even satanic practices and teachings is, by definition even worse than "apostate".

22 posted on 12/29/2012 8:19:43 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: TheBattman

Supposing Rome were all that it claims to be. There’s an inherent difficulty here when a local congregation goes looey. Rome is awfully, well, discreet at times when congregations misbehave (don’t even live up to Catholic standards) right on the internet for anyone including the Pope himself to see. In an evangelical model, congregations CAN fight a hijacking of their local church by walking away from that. There is no equivalent in the Catholic model unless the people are willing to physically depart their diocese.


23 posted on 12/29/2012 10:40:02 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That is the point I’m making. When a church or church body becomes apostate, it is the duty of the congregation/individual members, if a correction can it be made, the. To leave that co gregation(or diocese).

How can someone worship in a setting where the majority and/or the leadership are teaching/preaching/ doing that which is counter to scripture?


24 posted on 12/31/2012 10:49:56 PM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: TheBattman

It would be odious to imagine trying to render a proper worship in a place that is blatantly violating principles which are affirmed across all serious Christendom. And a church hierarchy that does little about it other than condemning the misconduct on paper, is not helpful. To read the old church fathers from biblical times is to get the idea that they would have made a visible stink at such problems, and that our modern advantages of modern communications and travel would not have gone unused to that end.


25 posted on 01/01/2013 10:21:32 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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