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Former prosecutor says Tawana Brawley still owes him $429,000 .....
The Daily Mail Online ^ | December 26, 2012 | DAILY MAIL REPORTER

Posted on 12/26/2012 5:52:35 AM PST by Uncle Chip

A former prosecutor who says Tawana Brawley, now known as Tawana Gutierrez, falsely dragged his name through the mud in a defamation judgment from 1987 is looking to collect this year.

Steven Pagones, a former Dutchess County prosecutor, says Brawley still owes him $429,000, including interest, after falsely calling him a 'gang-raping, kidnapping racist.'

'In all these years, she’s never told the truth about this hoax or paid me a cent,' Pagones told the New York Post on Christmas Eve.

'Now I’m going to seek anything I’m entitled to under the law,' he said.

That could well cost Brawley, a single mom working as a nurse in Virginia, up to a couple of hundred dollars a week, according to the Post.

Twenty-five years after Brawley's claims of being raped by a gang of white men polarised New York City, the woman has been tracked down living in hiding in Virginia.

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(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: tawanabrawley

1 posted on 12/26/2012 5:52:44 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

..maybe AL,JESSIE AND Bill Cosby can chip in and settle things since they made headlines falling over one another grabbing attention


2 posted on 12/26/2012 5:55:55 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Uncle Chip

I hope he wins. That liar ruined good men’s lives and reputations and propelled sharpton to national attention.


3 posted on 12/26/2012 5:56:04 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: pgkdan

Amen. It’s despicable to ruin someones good name and then walk away from the damage. She should have been jailed.


4 posted on 12/26/2012 6:01:28 AM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Uncle Chip

1987. Does the Statute of Limitations apply in cases like this?


5 posted on 12/26/2012 6:01:41 AM PST by carriage_hill (Have A Very Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year!)
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To: carriage_hill

Not once a judgement has been rendered, it stands until satisfied.


6 posted on 12/26/2012 6:03:45 AM PST by cbvanb
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To: Amberdawn

Was Sharp-scum & Co ever found guilty w/ the Brawley skank?


7 posted on 12/26/2012 6:03:51 AM PST by carriage_hill (Have A Very Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year!)
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To: Doogle

Not Al. He had someone else pay his end of the defamation suit.


8 posted on 12/26/2012 6:06:25 AM PST by Roccus
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To: cbvanb

Yeh....tell that to the millions and millions of people who never got a dime from their judgements.


9 posted on 12/26/2012 6:07:43 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Uncle Chip

Have a mob collector come to visit.


10 posted on 12/26/2012 6:08:57 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: Uncle Chip
Am I correct in reading that one of the officers accused in this lie was found dead a week later? Just wondering if it was suicide? Really don't know how some people (Sharpton, Brawly and the other idiots involved) can live with themselves.
11 posted on 12/26/2012 6:09:05 AM PST by squidward
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To: Uncle Chip; All

If Tawanna has to cough up 100’s of K for her scheme...wonder how much the Trayvon Martin parents, lawyers, Sharpton, Black KKK Panthers, and the like, will be paying to George Zimmerman.

Rev Al Sharpton: “Whoa not so fast....I gotta pay off that Zimmerman guy...”


12 posted on 12/26/2012 6:13:20 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Seems that the ones who understand little about the economy are economists)
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To: Uncle Chip

If it took this long to find her, she probably had help “disappearing”, and whoever arranged that will probably do it again. I’m betting it’s not that hard to create a new identity if there’s people inside the system willing to help you.


13 posted on 12/26/2012 6:17:31 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: squidward
Am I correct in reading that one of the officers accused in this lie was found dead a week later?

His name was not mentioned at all in connection with Brawley until after he died.

A week after she faked the incident, this cop found out he had failed his state police exam, and that news came two or three days after his longtime girlfriend left him for another guy.

He killed himself, and it made the news.

When it made the news, all of a sudden Brawley "remembered" that this was one of the guys!

Then Pagones stepped forward and said that it was a disgusting lie and that he was with the now-deceased accused man the night that Brawley was "attacked."

When he said that, Sharpton and Brawley accused him of being involved as well, and it snowballed from there.

14 posted on 12/26/2012 6:18:28 AM PST by wideawake
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To: tacticalogic
If it took this long to find her, she probably had help “disappearing”, and whoever arranged that will probably do it again.

She had joined the Nation of Islam for some time after this incident, and had changed her name to Tawana X, etc.

She apparently left or was kicked out some years ago.

15 posted on 12/26/2012 6:21:05 AM PST by wideawake
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To: SeminoleCounty
Different circumstances.

Since the Martins, Inc. and Sharpton and Associates found a DA who was willing to indict Zimmerman, it will be much harder to find against them in civil court.

Brawley's story was so ridiculous on its face that a New York grand jury - which would classically indict a "ham sandwich" - laughed her accusations out of court.

Nothing actually happened to Brawley.

Martin actually was shot and killed.

16 posted on 12/26/2012 6:26:33 AM PST by wideawake
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To: squidward
I'm not defending Brawley but she was a kid who told a horrible lie to cover up behavior her parents apparently disapproved of. That outrageous lie was then catapulted to epic proportions by her parents and Al Sharpton.

I've often wondered if Brawley came up with those details on her own or if her original version was embellished to suit Sharpton's needs. We all know on his TV gig, truth isn't something Sharpton particularly cares about; I guarantee it wasn't important to him in the Brawley affair, either.

17 posted on 12/26/2012 6:29:48 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: carriage_hill

It’s not SOL. The issue is dormancy. Dormancy rules vary from state to state. I believe that pretty much anywhere you can keep a judgment alive if you continue to file the magic papers and to search for the debtor and try to execute.


18 posted on 12/26/2012 6:30:53 AM PST by Mercat (Adventures make you late for dinner. Bilbo Baggins)
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To: Uncle Chip

Like union thuggery, the MSM and Liberals wanto to make black thuggery and black rage legitimate and legal. Do they still eat bananas in a Banana Republic?


19 posted on 12/26/2012 6:32:43 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Uncle Chip

I believe he also had a judgement against Al Sharpton who hasn’t paid a dime either.


20 posted on 12/26/2012 6:32:56 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Uncle Chip

He should be going after her pimp Al Sharpton..If my memory serves me right he put the girl up to the charges..


21 posted on 12/26/2012 6:34:46 AM PST by PLD
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To: Amberdawn
She should have been jailed.

Until she paid every dime of the judgment.

22 posted on 12/26/2012 6:38:58 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: carriage_hill

Sharpton was, and ordered to pay out to Pagones. What became of that, I don’t know.


23 posted on 12/26/2012 6:41:21 AM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Uncle Chip

I hope he gets her ObamaPhone and her EBT card.


24 posted on 12/26/2012 6:45:41 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: carriage_hill

Pagones tried his case and won in civil court. He has a judgment. Generally they expire after 20 years or so, unless you refile them. Strictly speaking, a statute of limitations does not apply.


25 posted on 12/26/2012 6:48:06 AM PST by frithguild (You can call me Snippy the Anti-Freeper)
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To: Uncle Chip

Love it.

Less money for a crooked, fat pig, Obama voter.

And I mean Tawanna banana, not that evil MSNBC subhuman, Sharpton.


26 posted on 12/26/2012 6:52:52 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: wideawake

Different circumstances.

Since the Martins, Inc. and Sharpton and Associates found a DA who was willing to indict Zimmerman, it will be much harder to find against them in civil court.

Brawley’s story was so ridiculous on its face that a New York grand jury - which would classically indict a “ham sandwich” - laughed her accusations out of court.

Nothing actually happened to Brawley.

Martin actually was shot and killed


Actually...wrong

Since the lies told by the Martins, Sharpton, and any other non-governmental person led to the false arrest and prosecution of George Zimmerman...they are not immune from civil damages. And, the State Attorney and LEO are only immune from civil actions other than Civil Rights violations

The FACT of the Zimmerman case is that Trayvon Martin attacked George Zimmerman, and Zimmerman shot in self-defense. This is pretty much apparent now as the media (even here locally) has really divested itself from the case

The NBC lawsuit is just the beginning for Zimmerman to clear his name, and to punish those who committed this fraud. Sharpton, The Martin family, Ben Crump, and others involved are not immune from any civil action, nor will be held to any higher standard of liability, just because some State Atty (forced by the Gov and AG when the local SA did not prosecute) decided to prosecute criminally.


27 posted on 12/26/2012 6:55:59 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: Roccus

So you let the one he ‘used’ to promote his agenda - hanging? Typical. She served ‘his’ purpose.


28 posted on 12/26/2012 7:00:18 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: squidward

You’ve got to be kidding. The same way ‘bama lives with his skanky self. He doesn’t give a damn. Period.


29 posted on 12/26/2012 7:02:13 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Sacajaweau

As I stated, the judgement stands until satisfied. Collecting a judgement can be a whole new set of legal hurdles, but the fact that a Court ruled that money is owed does not go away.


30 posted on 12/26/2012 7:37:56 AM PST by cbvanb
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To: Uncle Chip

I hope he doesn’t stop until he gets the money that is rightfully his.


31 posted on 12/26/2012 7:48:24 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: I want the USA back
I do too. Garnishment is his avenue now for her and Sharpton. Collect every cent, that will be justice for America.

BTW: has O'Reilly stopped slobbering over Sharpton? Haven't seen him on that show lately.

32 posted on 12/26/2012 7:54:28 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Uncle Chip

Lay with dogs wake up with fleas.


33 posted on 12/26/2012 8:01:14 AM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: SeminoleCounty
they are not immune from civil damages

I did not say that they were immune from civil damages.

I said that it will be much harder to find against them in civil court than it was to find against Brawley.

The fact is that no one alive knows exactly what happened that night except George Zimmerman.

Because he was an interested party, his statements will be continually called into question.

In the case of Brawley, there were numerous witnesses who came forward to testify that during the same timeframe she claimed to have been held against her will in an unknown location she was attending a house party with her boyfriend in the presence of many guests.

Sharpton has learned a lot about what he can and cannot get away with in the 25 years since Brawley.

34 posted on 12/26/2012 8:06:48 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Mercat; Amberdawn; frithguild

Thanks for clarifying it. So many loose ends, I wondered what happened to the case’s final disposition, if anything.


35 posted on 12/26/2012 8:26:39 AM PST by carriage_hill (Have A Very Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year!)
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To: Navy Patriot

Kind of hard to earn money to pay a judgement in jail. They pay you what, 20 cents an hour in there? Good thing we don’t do debtor’s prisons in America anymore, or nobody would ever get paid on their judgements. This is also why jailing “deadbeat dads” is a stupid idea.


36 posted on 12/26/2012 8:38:46 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Uncle Chip

ah yes- another case of blatant, relevant reverse-racism in this country you’ll only read in a paper overseas...i hope this guy gets every cent and drags al sharpton down with him....


37 posted on 12/26/2012 8:48:14 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Uncle Chip
Seems like “weird” Al might have some deep pockets.
38 posted on 12/26/2012 8:51:14 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Boogieman
This is also why jailing “deadbeat dads” is a stupid idea.

Being as an unfortunate man can do life in jail at the command of a vindictive woman, I would be willing to look at debtors prison reform.

Among the reforms could be a law that requires all serious criminal acts that cause indebtedness to require incarceration until the debt is paid.

39 posted on 12/26/2012 8:52:25 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Gotta love any thread referring to Tawana Brawley, because we get to remember the following inspired quote:

'... no one manipsnapes me or my family ...'

40 posted on 12/26/2012 9:54:43 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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