Posted on 12/27/2012 3:28:49 PM PST by neverdem
The reason this prohibition exists is simple.
As we saw with the rescinded Bancroft Prize for history a few years ago, so called research about guns is often politically motivated fabrication and falsehood only de-bunked with great effort.
If you're looking for a rational motivation for an insane act committed by a
mentally ill person then something's not right with your head, doc.
B.) These criminals almost never use a rifle of any kind let alone an "assault rifle". They are using cheap handguns that are frequently stolen. This is also verifiable using the FBI crime database.
B.)taking guns away from law abiding citizens will not decrease the incidence of murder in America and we have decades of scientific evidence that confirms this.
They keep trying to get the death rate down but
abortions are UP!
Hmmmm ..?? Never know why ..??
I wonder if it had anything to do with all the Satan Worship stuff they found in his bedroom ..?? Ya think!
These people really do think we’re so gullible and stupid we can’t figure stuff out.
Pitiful!!!
Roughly 40% of gun deaths are suicide. The majority of the rest are gang-bangers and drug related.
they never want to talk about gang violence or the racial element. That’s all code word for racism to them even though it is undeniably factual.
The gun grabbers also conveniently avoid talking about gun free zones.
Yeah, they say they want a “conversation” about gun control but when it comes down to it, that’s the last thing they want.
INCONVENIENT FACT: Countries that allow private gun ownership have much lower overall murder, suicide and violent crime rates than countries with pervasive gun control laws.
EVIDENCE: According to no less an authority than the peer-reviewed Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, countries with stringent gun control laws have higher murder and suicide rates than those without.
DOCUMENTATION: “Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide?” A Review of International and Some Domestic Evidence by Don B. Kates and Gary Mauser, Volume 30, Number 2 of the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, pages 649-694. (To download a PDF copy of the journal article, simply Google the title. It is available on the web free of charge.)
QUOTE: “If you are surprised by our findings, so are we. We did not begin this research with any intent to “exonerate” handguns, but there it is — a negative finding, to be sure, but a negative finding is nevertheless a positive contribution. It directs us where not to aim public health resources.”
INDIRECTION: The trick hoplophobes always use is to say that America has higher gun-murder rates than other countries, but a lot of those “murders” are criminals killed in the act of committing violent crimes. Compare absolute murder rates, and the result is “more guns, less murder.” (Source: GunFacts.info);
SECOND INCONVENIENT FACT: According to DOJ crime statistics, guns are used by US citizens 2.5 million times per year to prevent violent crimes like rape, robbery, home-invasion and carjacking, 99% of the time without a shot being fired. (Source: GunFacts.info)
THIRD INCONVENIENT FACT: “Assault weapons” (AKA semiautomatic rifles) are used in less than 1% of gun crimes. (Source: GunFacts.info)
QUESTION: If gun-free zones make people safe, then why don’t we declare the immediate vicinity of the President and Vice-President to be gun-free zones and send the Secret Service home? Or are gun-free zones good enough for our kids, but not good enough for our overlords?
METAPHOR: America has more private gun ownership than most other countries, so naturally there are more gun murders. America also has more hospitals than most other countries, so naturally we have more people dying in hospitals. Does that mean we should outlaw hospitals?
Kellerman seems intent on maintaining his stature as one of the leading pathological liars of the gun-control movement.
He really is reprehensible.
Of course we can’t figure stuff out.
We don’t have research staff or research grants.
Duh?
All these epidemiologically based studies (like Kellerman’s) suffer from the same basic defect: they not only conclude that correlation equals causation, but they assume a direction for the causation that has no real support. In fact, causation in the other direction is much more likely.
Specifically, they assume that possessing a gun somehow makes one more likely to get shot. It is much more logical to think that the fear of getting shot makes one more likely to possess a gun. It should therefore not be surprising that there exists the kind of correlation that Kellerman reports.
Using Kellerman’s logic, one could say that since many people die in hospitals, sick people should avoid hospitals at all costs.
Also, if I remember correctly, in Kellerman’s original study a large proportion of the subjects were either drug users or drug dealers. Participants in the illegal drug trade would likely have a greater-than-normal fear of being shot.
Zeko
His credulity strains belief. As someone who is not familiar with his past work this line tells me he is either a fool or thinks I am one. While that may be the properly stated ethical position, anyone who has followed politically charged research subjects, knows this ethical principal if willfully and repeatedly ignored.
Kellerman is one of the biggest liars among the anti-gun “researchers”. Non-crime firearms injuries (and even total violence have been decreasing for years WITHOUT the interference of the “medical professionals”, who have no business talking about “gun business”, of which they are, for the most part, grossly ignorant.
More like 60%. Several studies show no correlation between gun control and suicide rates.
marktwain linked Mass Killings Stopped by Armed Citizens on two of my recent threads. I verified all of its links. If someone tries to disable that webpage, I'm linking all of its links below current links and posts.
Two Cautionary Tales of Gun Control
Stopping the spread of deadly assault weapons--summary of Feinstein Bill, incl. registry requirement
Is it True Armed Civilians Have Never Stopped a Mass Shooting?
Mother Jones's Own Reporting Contradicts Its Conclusions on Gun Violence
Guns in schools can save lives - Disarming law abiding citizens left them sitting ducks.
I used the original titles, some are Wikipedia titles, for the links within Mass Killings Stopped by Armed Citizens:
Appalachian School of Law shooting
The Chronicle, Muskegon, MI, 8/23/95
Jeanne Assam and the New Life Church Shooting
Gun-shop employee prevents massacre(California, 1999) by marktwain!
A Massacre We Didn't Hear About
Statistics show concealed carry saves many lives, takes few
RV PARK KILLINGS: 'Witness shooter' recounts shootout with gunman who killed two in Early
Shooter with hit-list shot dead in AT&T store
College Student Shoots, Kills Home Invader
Victims Released; No Charges Filed Against Reno Man In Winnemucca Shootings
Parker Middle School dance shooting
Police identify man who shot, killed pastor’s mother at church
Clackamas Concealed Carry Showdown – The Full Story
P.S. Arthur Kellermann, one of the authors in the JAMA article, has written some of the most outrageous "studies" about guns in the medical literature, e.g. he equated the risk of criminal acquaintances getting killed with family and friends if someone kept a gun in their home.
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