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Purported Plea from Chinese labor camp found in Halloween decorations
Fox News ^ | Dec. 26, 2012 | Greg Norman

Posted on 12/28/2012 7:05:25 PM PST by PanzerKardinal

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To: kearnyirish2

How do they punish the employees who commit suicide?


41 posted on 12/29/2012 5:10:21 AM PST by Nachoman (Wisdom is learned, cynicism is earned.)
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To: Nachoman

I have no idea; I could only imagine they penalize the family, but their families are practically non-existent due to the one-child policy. Companies have cages on stairwells and such to prevent people from jumping; it really is crazy over there. They are being devoured by the rest of the world’s capitalism...


42 posted on 12/29/2012 5:15:45 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: All

yea, but the do infrastructure so well, it’s something for us to emulate. Obama envy’s the ability of their government to get things done.


43 posted on 12/29/2012 5:18:48 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: PanzerKardinal

If this is true, the commies are probably pulling random people and shooting them in the head right there in the factory and will continue to do so until someone steps forward.

They have plenty of Workers to replace them.


44 posted on 12/29/2012 5:53:09 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: PanzerKardinal

Actually it will soon be happening here in the many soon to be opened re-education camps for conservatives.


45 posted on 12/29/2012 6:22:28 AM PST by stockpirate (Mooshell Obama will run for POTUS in 2016.......Obama election fruad won the day.)
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To: PanzerKardinal; spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
I hope this is just bluster and hyperbole, because if you really believe in what you wrote....then I would really question your humanity.

Amen. Somebody needs to read "Arms of Krupp."

46 posted on 12/29/2012 11:55:08 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
I’m a capitalist. That is the way capitalism works.

Correction: you're an amoral capitalist -- not "immoral," but "amoral," as in "without reference to morality."

When long-established California Japanese farmer families were interned in WWII, many "capitalist" farmers such as yourself snapped up their seized farmland at a song and went on your merry amoral way.

Meanwhile, other capitalist farmers, such as a few I knew personally, took those government-seized operations, ran them while those families and neighbors were interned during the war, and after the war, those families' farmland and operations were waiting for them; these capitalists, who were quiet ordinary and very imperfect Christians, did the right thing and returned the operationsn to the farmers/friends/neighbors who built them. These capitalists, at least one of whom became quite wealthy through self-made business over his life, were CAPITALISTS as much as you at least as successful (if not quite a bit more), busineswise, as you.

You are among the very sad conservatives who mistake moral compassion and love for weakness and liberalism.

My bible states clearly: "God is love." Where there is an absence of God, there is an absence of love. Those of us who want to bring God back to America, must engage in love. Love inspires loyalty, love inspires commitment.

Liberalism inspires and is powered by anger, envy, covetousness, and self-pity. All the things my bible warns against.

The amoral capitalist is a bereft thing.

47 posted on 12/29/2012 12:07:54 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: PanzerKardinal

Holy shoot. That is authentic.

I try to avoid things from china. Hard though.

Seriously this needs to get viral and we need to pressure this admin to stop bowing and to do away with chinas preferred trade status. This is sick.


48 posted on 12/29/2012 12:11:59 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Finny

Well said.


49 posted on 12/29/2012 12:26:49 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Finny

“The amoral capitalist is a bereft thing.”

So that what you are saying is that it is acceptable for one country to try to demand that the companies of another country run their businesses in a certain manner?

That reeks of imperialism to me. Why do you think that this country is so hated throughout the world? We are continually trying to impose our will upon others and be the world’s ‘morality’ policemen.

Why was there outrage on FR when communist China tried to tell this country that we had to have more stringent gun laws? For the same reason that China does not like us to tell them how to run their country.

Let’s assume that this country would be successful in making companies in another country change their policies toward their employees. Let’s assume that they would say, “OK, USA, you are correct. We are going to institute a 40-hour work week, eight hours per day with an hour for lunch and two 15-minute breaks, two weeks paid vacation per year. In addition, instead of $2 per month salary we are going to start paying them at USA union wages, i.e., $20 per hour for unskilled labor. However, with the rising cost of production, those 10 million widgets you bought for $1 million last month...the price has risen. It is now going to cost $10 million for 1 million widgets.”

My point is, “Where does the morality stop and common sense start?” Is a 40-hour work-week ‘morally’ acceptable? Says who? Why? Taking into consideration travel-time to and from work, that is more than 1/3 of a person’s life. Is that ‘moral’? Does the bible say that a 40-hour work-week is acceptable?

Try to go out shopping and return home WITHOUT something that says, “Made in China” on the tag. You can’t do it. can you? I look for items that DON’T have a union label.

Are you willing to pay double and/or triple higher prices to assuage your ‘morality’? Oh, you changed your mind? I thought so!


50 posted on 12/29/2012 1:20:58 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise; All
So that what you are saying is that it is acceptable for one country to try to demand that the companies of another country run their businesses in a certain manner?

That you interpret what I am saying as the above, speaks volumes. The idea of forcing China to do anything never entered my mind.

Are you willing to pay double and/or triple higher prices to assuage your ‘morality’? Oh, you changed your mind? I thought so!

As usual, I expect, you thought wrong.

Individual Americans are shackled with regard to engaging in capitalism. Go try to make a living catching and selling fish. Or by opening up a store and selling widgets. Or by growing vegetables in your yard and selling them at a farmer's market.

The "value" of Chinese crap would evaporate if the power and productivity of individual Americans was given the freedom to thrive. Instead, everything from unions to environmentalist horsecrap to labor laws prevent honest people from making an honest, creative, productive living.

Like our government forces us to subsidize with our labor on-demand abortion, it has forced our agricultural and manufacturing sectors into having to depend on the likes of China for our everyday goods.

And you think this is about telling China what to do?

51 posted on 12/29/2012 1:58:54 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: don-o

Thanks.


52 posted on 12/29/2012 2:01:24 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: usconservative
You're quite right about both the ability of many Chinese to read and write in English - even among the poor.

Worse though, you're also right in that all workers in that factory have already been put through a wringer to find the writer - and he or she very likely may not be alive today. I hope I'm wrong about that, but frequent extreme Chinese brutality has not diminished one iota.

We take better care of animals than the Chi-Coms do of their own people.

53 posted on 12/29/2012 2:22:23 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
Hi Spel,
I dont support the way unions have morphed over the years but we should try to support American workers as best as we can (assuming the products and cost are compettitve).
54 posted on 12/29/2012 3:48:58 PM PST by Moleman
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To: Finny

“And you think this is about telling China what to do?”

Yes, because my original post was in response to post # 20 which is quoted below:

“The grand old unions of the US would, one thinks, at least be making a nominal stink about this.”


55 posted on 12/29/2012 4:58:17 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

Didnt think i would agree with you but you are right about “Why arent the unions and the Dems rasing Cane about this.”


56 posted on 12/29/2012 5:48:49 PM PST by Moleman
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

I’m merely pointing out how these liberals, when an opportunity arises for them to make liberalism look good, are silent. Not everyone believes the almighty dollar excuses anything, that trade can be truly free without being ethical.


57 posted on 12/29/2012 10:47:26 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Finny

Of course it isn’t, beyond possibly telling China that if they keep this up, we’ll spend more on ourselves rather than subsidizing this in the name of all-excusing mammon.

To make a stink doesn’t imply just one thing, all you one track mind people (and I don’t mean necessarily you).


58 posted on 12/29/2012 10:50:47 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Moleman

All I see here is a screed in praise of the Flow of Mammon.


59 posted on 12/29/2012 10:52:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: PanzerKardinal
Reminds me of the note inside the chinese fortune cookie:

Help, i’m being held prisoner in a cookie factory!

60 posted on 12/29/2012 10:58:12 PM PST by dalereed
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