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Do clown cars really weigh that much? Maybe charge by the pound.
1 posted on 01/04/2013 7:23:10 PM PST by Libloather
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State legislators are looking at adding a tax for cars that get at least 55 miles per gallon

Doesn't that interfere with their "green" social engineering?

2 posted on 01/04/2013 7:28:15 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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How do they know how far you’ve gone? Are we talking more toll booths or tracking devices? If I know government, they’re working on the latter.


3 posted on 01/04/2013 7:29:05 PM PST by Tublecane
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GAH! When are these people going to stop?! We are getting bad ideas from the Leftist control freaks at the rate of about ten per hour.


4 posted on 01/04/2013 7:30:29 PM PST by madison10
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I’m sure the loons in Portland and Eugene will be more than happy to pay. That’s what all the libs and rinos advocate for after all.


5 posted on 01/04/2013 7:31:54 PM PST by ABQHispConservative (Only fake Christians vote or are Democrats.)
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I love that idea, we should raise taxes on all green products like solar panels too

Here in Maryland if you put solar panels on your house the taxpayers pay for half of them, and the other consumers of electric who don’t have them pay for the electric you need that the panels dont produce like at night by mandate.


7 posted on 01/04/2013 7:32:30 PM PST by sickoflibs (Fight like Dems, fight to win !)
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And once that’s in place, they’ll simply add a five-word clause and amend the statute to include gasoline-powered vehicles.


8 posted on 01/04/2013 7:34:05 PM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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Going to start a new black market I see. These rats are sure smart!


11 posted on 01/04/2013 7:36:27 PM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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From OREGONLIVE.COM:

[Less than 1,000 of Oregon's 3.2 million passenger vehicles are currently plug-in hybrid or electric. By 2021, however, the number is expected to spike to 75,000, said Whitty.]

http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/04/oregons_electric_car_owners_sh.html

14 posted on 01/04/2013 7:43:13 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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Find out where the existing gas tax money is being spent and you'll know why your roads need repair. I would be surprised if state representatives are not stealing road tax money to use for more important projects, like buying votes. Cars and trucks are evil don't you know.
17 posted on 01/04/2013 7:48:27 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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A mileage tax is a great idea, as long as they eliminate the gasoline tax.


18 posted on 01/04/2013 7:50:24 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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What's the point of having fuel efficient car if you have to pay per mile? Might as well stick with the Hummer then.
What's next, paying the utility the going tax rate for juice from your solar panels or the water from your own well?
They would do that. Anything that moves, tax it.

20 posted on 01/04/2013 7:51:39 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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The database is being assembled.

In Pennsylvania drivers are requested to submit the odomoter reading when renewing tags (only for mail-in at this point, not through the DOT on-line services) and safety inspection mechanics record the odometer onto a paper ledger.

In counties where emission inspection is required the odometer reading is digitally transmitted to the DOT as part of the testing process.

Grab your ankles—it’s coming!


21 posted on 01/04/2013 7:52:51 PM PST by lightman (If the Patriarchate of the East held a state like the Vatican I would apply for political asylum.)
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Public policy lesson 101:

Most highway construction and maintenance funding comes from “liquid fuels taxes”.

If vehicles consume less liquid fuels there is less revenue, but their useage/damage does not decrease.

The money must be made up some way, some how.

Driving a big azz vehicle, I don’t want to “subsidize” the Prius fleet. Note that most Priuses sport Ø bumper stickers—so they are “takers” very content with that status quo.

When mileage based road taxes were first proposed in my state I protested to my assemblyman that many of my neighbors live back 1/4 to 1/2 mile or longer private lanes; therefore much of their annual mileage is on their own private property.

He responeded—correctly—that with liquid fuels taxation they are being taxed on fuel that will never benefit them directly. Same difference.


24 posted on 01/04/2013 8:04:15 PM PST by lightman (If the Patriarchate of the East held a state like the Vatican I would apply for political asylum.)
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Any scheme that involves GPS trackers to record mileage will not be reliable but will destroy privacy of travel.


26 posted on 01/04/2013 8:20:11 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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This looks like one of those rare liberals screwing liberals occasions where its just fun to watch.


29 posted on 01/04/2013 8:27:40 PM PST by Avid Coug
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Oregon totalitarians considering more mandates...

--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

T.E.A.

38 posted on 01/04/2013 8:53:56 PM PST by PGalt
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Do NOT let this camel get it's nose under the tent!!!

This starts like all the other new taxes by taxing a small constituentcy and then balloons to ensnare the rest of the public in something that will give the government power to monitor your movements and further, will hit people entrepreneurs who make their livings in cars or trucks with a huge economic bite!!!

41 posted on 01/04/2013 9:24:56 PM PST by SierraWasp (Conservative, constitutional & capitalistic thinking is the last refuge from pussy liberal thought!!)
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Again! This is leading toward the UN Agenda 21's push toward the mis-named "Smart Growth" to slow down urban sprawl by implementing a "commuter tax" that also kills the American dream of a sprawling estate/home in the country!!!

This will kill a whole bunch of GANG-GREEN birds with just one gall stone!!!

It's also a continuation of the wretched "War on the West" since we don't wish to crowd into urban compaction with miserable mass transit, walking commutes in deep blue cities and as they put it... "getting America back on it's feet!"

42 posted on 01/04/2013 9:35:47 PM PST by SierraWasp (Conservative, constitutional & capitalistic thinking is the last refuge from pussy liberal thought!!)
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I don’t think they are in any way serious about “Global Warming”. The carbon tax is simply another excuse to tax, and now the per mile tax is to grab those who evade that tax.


46 posted on 01/04/2013 10:26:20 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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They should charge the asshole bike riders. They are the ones who are using the roads without paying for them.
47 posted on 01/04/2013 10:33:35 PM PST by SunTzuWu
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