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The 10 Biggest Political Debacles of 2012
Townhall.com ^ | January 5, 2013 | John Hawkins

Posted on 01/05/2013 4:34:37 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 01/05/2013 4:34:43 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Romney’s campaign should be #1...


2 posted on 01/05/2013 5:01:06 AM PST by Roccus
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Correction, the whole GOP should be #1!


3 posted on 01/05/2013 5:02:39 AM PST by Roccus
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To: Kaslin

First off the Mourdock and Aikin loss.When it comes to defending a religious fundamentalist concept the godless ones have been pretty good at attacking an article of faith and reducing it to ridicule. Now the camp followers in the media and their opponents in the GOPE sector including some “conservative” talking heads go piling it on and the stampede is on.
The question becomes how should they handle it ?
Here is a suggested response...

“I happen to believe bla bla bla which will has nothing to do with any legislation that may cross my desk and never will....At least I believe in God ...as a political party God is someone they booed...use the convention clip ...and I don’t believe that an election to office is a license to steal...


4 posted on 01/05/2013 5:23:29 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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To: Kaslin
[Art.] ...it seems bizarre for the CIA Director to be having a secret affair that could be used by other intelligence agencies to blackmail him, ....

Hey, no sweat, guys. The President was blackmailing him instead, so no foul, no strain -- everything's under control.

5 posted on 01/05/2013 5:27:13 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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The biggest liberal on Earth (Romney) should be first. He is the biggest loser ever. Lost to the second biggest loser in history. Good Lord Republicans are so stupid to pick this creep. I knew it from day one...NOBODY believed me though. I was right all along. In 2016, I hope people go with my choice as it will be the right choice. The slobbering “wipe your chin” FREEPER fan club (too many FREEPERS were members) of Romney was the worst part about 2012. Disgusting!!!!!


6 posted on 01/05/2013 5:48:41 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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[Art.] Maybe [Romney] should have thought about that before teaming up with the Republican establishment and his deep pocketed donor buddies to ... make a path for the least electable Republican candidate since Barry Goldwater.


Foul ball on the Barry Goldwater analogy.

Barry Goldwater was considered a strong candidate in mid-1963, before Jack Kennedy's assassination. He matched up very interestingly with JFK, offering several strong contrasts with the incumbent that worked for Goldwater. JFK was a New Englander, and the first northeastern President since Roosevelt -- and the first Irish Catholic one ever. JFK was a rich liberal with a Harvard accent, and Goldwater was a down-home Westerner with a leathery, outdoorsy complexion and a plainspoken way that went over well with a country that was a lot less liberal and rich than JFK.

The assassination changed all that, and the matchup with LBJ was a disastrously poor one: LBJ was a neighbor from Texas and could match Goldwater's homespun wisdom folksy line for folksy line. Plus, he was a lot more corrupt than the Kennedys and spread money around high and low. LBJ invented "dirty tricks" and "negative advance", and he used the take from FBI bugs everywhere Goldwater went, including aboard his campaign plane, to feed LBJ's "Five O'Clock Group", which was his political skunk-works group.

Barry Goldwater's political career was ruined by a bullet that found another man, is one way to say it. He was one of the best men who was never president, joining Texans John Nance "Cactus Jack" Garner and Sam Rayburn in that distinguished club. And instead of all of them, we got "Landslide Lint'n", giant government, bribe-lubricated anticonstitutionalism, our first lost war, and the capture of the Democratic Party by the Far Left.

7 posted on 01/05/2013 5:49:51 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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Fact is, once the assassination occurred, NO Republican was going to win the Presidency in 1964.


8 posted on 01/05/2013 6:59:45 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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Those who thought that defeating McCaskill would be a walk in the park also thought that defeating Obama would be the same.


9 posted on 01/05/2013 8:59:34 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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Fact is, once the assassination occurred, NO Republican was going to win the Presidency in 1964.

True that -- the assassination was such a wrenching event, it totally changed the political landscape in just five seconds.

Plus, Lyndon Johnson, as the first thing he did, was to get a vise-grip on the White House for himself. Jack Kennedy's body was still cooling in the Capitol Rotunda when LBJ held his first re-elect meeting in DC.

Ruthless b*stard -- I've suspected him for about 20 years now, him and Hoover.

What clinched it for me was an isolated story about the 1960 convention, when Evelyn Lincoln (Jack's longtime secretary) finally broke her secretarial silence, 30-40 years after the fact, and told some stories about things she eyewitnessed. One of them was that LBJ apparently blackmailed his way onto the 1960 ticket (the Kennedys wanted Stuart Symington of Missouri instead, who had border-state crossover appeal and a rep in foreign affairs and Mafia crimefighting).

Think about that a minute. Blackmailed the Kennedys, extorted the VP nod .... for an office that John Nance Garner, another Texan who held the office, once described (in cleaned-up language) as "not worth a bucket of warm spit". Now think about that for a while, and about LBJ's "emptiness" or whatever it was he suffered under -- Robert Caro just completed another volume of his LBJ bio (he's still working on the last one, the presidency and afterward), and he is all eloquent about how deflated LBJ was without the real power he had wielded in the Senate -- and ask yourself, why would a man not only subject himself to such a political exile from power, and blackmail someone to get it?

Yeah, think about that a while.

10 posted on 01/05/2013 6:30:42 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus; Impy; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; campaignPete R-CT; Clemenza

Well, it’s been discussed endlessly. Was LBJ ruthless ? Of course. I think he probably remains unmatched as the most effective Majority Leader in the Senate before or since (and Republicans should use him as a model in that regard instead of the Melvin Milquetoasts that have followed. Better to be feared and respected than well-liked and get rolled by the opposition).

Whether he was explicitly behind the assassination, I can’t quite go that far. I know the Kennedys wanted Symington for VP, but as a formality and courtesy, offered it to LBJ with the presumption that he wouldn’t take it. Clearly they were shocked when he did and had no way to dump him (though I believe LBJ was headed for the door in ‘64 of his own accord, and they’d get their man that time).

I find it interesting now to realize LBJ, despite having been in DC almost a quarter-century by 1961, was only 52 (and by DC standards, that’s fairly young now, as so many don’t even land in DC in Congress until roughly that age). He looked so much older and tired. Whatever methods by which he may have used to get power, it certainly took its toll on him. He was still only 59 when he announced he wouldn’t run in 1968 and died at just 64 (the same age Bush, Sr. was when he was running for his first term for President in 1988, and a year younger than Willard running in this past election).

Still, I have little sympathy for him. The agenda he supported and passed in DC has had a horrific effect on the country (from the drastic expansion of big government, entitlements, so-called immigration “reform”, and the reenslavement of the Black community to the Democrat party), and we’ve never recovered from it. The big question remains if Nixon had been recognized as the legitimate victor in 1960, would he have resisted such efforts or would the GOP have saddled the country with that “Great Society” agenda ?


11 posted on 01/06/2013 7:25:11 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; Impy; BillyBoy; nutmeg; DarthVader; campaignPete R-CT; Clemenza; ...

“Better to be feared and respected than well-liked and get rolled by the opposition.”

Right DJ! I’ve been saying this for years. But, unfortunately, the “Lawrence Welk Crowd” CANNOT understand that this is a war we’re in, and SURPRISE, we’re losing/lost it. IMHO, the “Lawrence Welk Crowd” should go to Old Country Buffet and choke.

I’ve reached the conclusion that the barbarians have pretty won; the only thing the non-barbarians can do is to hunker down and survive.

Since there is no opposition party in this country anymore (the GOP? please...), survival is the only option. There is no General Pinochet to set things right.


12 posted on 01/06/2013 9:15:36 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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General Sarah


13 posted on 01/06/2013 9:55:45 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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Are you serious?

You or I have a better chance at being elected POTUS than her.


14 posted on 01/06/2013 10:00:19 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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This is the man who is going to lead the new revived United States of America:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2975437/posts


15 posted on 01/06/2013 10:08:50 AM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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Yeas, but a rivived USA needs ~15-20 less states in it. Who’s going to do that?


16 posted on 01/06/2013 12:39:37 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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nfl boredom
home team dominance


17 posted on 01/06/2013 12:55:56 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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This SEA-WAS game is good!


18 posted on 01/06/2013 3:42:45 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; lentulusgracchus; Impy; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; ...
RE :”Was LBJ ruthless ? Of course. I think he probably remains unmatched as the most effective Majority Leader in the Senate before or since (and Republicans should use him as a model in that regard instead of the Melvin Milquetoasts that have followed. Better to be feared and respected than well-liked and get rolled by the opposition).”

Always the party-pooper I don't see where LBJ helps us here except .....

LBJ got re-elected POTUS, that means some voters liked him. Obama got re-elected POTUS contrary to certain predictions by Rush, Rove and Morris and many here. That means many voters liked him.

Now after the election we know that Obama was really running, we know that Obama really wanted to win, and we know that the polls were all not rigged (all contrary to what Rush told his listeners for two years), so now that we know that maybe Republicans could try getting more voters on their side, (not p,,,ing them off) .
You would be surpised what an effect that would have in DC.

19 posted on 01/06/2013 7:38:08 PM PST by sickoflibs (Fight like Dems, fight to win !)
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To: GOPsterinMA

The process of natural selection CIRD induced.


20 posted on 01/06/2013 8:00:22 PM PST by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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