Woman hiding with kids shoots intruder

WSBtv ^ | 1/4/2013 | unknown

[dadfly]

or some better ammo. that’s a lot of exit wounds.

[JAKraig]

One more reason I have absolutely no use for wheel guns. . .
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My wife carries a wheel gun, she can’t handle a slide and likes the reliability, but, she practices every other week. Her carry ammo is hollow point and they are hot loads. Her feeling is that if she can’t do it in three shots she shouldn’t be shooting. She is a better shot with her Ruger than I am with my Kel-Tec. I would hate to have to face her in a fire fight.

[Wings-n-Wind]

Channel 2’s Amy Napier Viteri learned from Chapman late Friday night that slater has been placed on a ventilator and suffers from punctured lungs, a punctured liver and a punctured stomach.

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Center mass....
....pretty darn good...

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...wait for it...

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GUN CONTROL....

Well done, ma'am..... sa-a-a-a-alute!

[Albion Wilde]

... in the hospital with multiple holes.

Perp needed a new ventilation system. Got one free!

[Springfield Reformer]

No kidding. I don’t want my home intruder conversational after two, let alone five rounds.

[ketelone]

A .38 is a peashooter? The British Army used the .38/200 for six decades. Works fine.

[ottbmare]

She hit him five times out of five, hit him in the head and neck, and he went down, but he's not dead. This suggests she was not using a load with much stopping power. Her husband had better revisit this subject. Believe me, this this mama bear only has to hit somebody even once, and he would be stopped. For good.

[SES1066]

To the gun control crowd (I know you are not here but my fellow FReepers can pass it on), you need to remember this mantra; When seconds count, the police are minutes away!"

Unless you can station police on every corner (what a nightmare), the ability for self-defense is a right that the well secured elite want to take from us! Strangely enough, the same mindset that wants to remove this ability for self defense to prevent a very rare mass attack, is the same one that says it is better to release a thousand criminals to prevent a single innocent from unjust punishment.

Add to this the failure of logic that supposes "gun free zones" to be safe while never noticing the utter lack of violence at gun ranges.

[Sir Napsalot]

This is not a ‘simple break in’ to steal valuables.

The woman was hiding in the attic with children, yet the perp hounded and found her.

‘Shot 5 times and survived with multiple punctured stuff’ is better than being shot dead. Let him suffer.

Hope the hospital staff not give him pain killer.

[MomwithHope]

Good for her, get her a new 9mm.

[BattleFlag]

This is why their opportunistic rhetoric about law abiding citizens having blood on their hands is the opposite of what is true.
They are the ones with blood on their hands, the blood of past and future crime victims who are not allowed to exercise their right to defend themselves. They shed no tears and offer no remedies when the weakest members of our society are preyed upon.
Three lives were saved yesterday in Loganville, Georgia and the silence from the MSM is deafening.

[AnAmericanMother]

A .38 is a peashooter? The British Army used the .38/200 for six decades. Works fine.

A .38 IS a peashooter. The 380/200 (the official designation) is not even a .38 special - it's the old .38 S&W or .38 short. It was a post-WWI downgrade from the .455 Webley because the new troops (after the WWI decimation) couldn't handle the .455.

I own and shoot both a .455 (a great revolver!) and a 380/200, and the latter is pathetic. Elmer Keith referred to it as a "pipsqueak" and he was (as usual) absolutely correct. It has less muzzle energy than a .380/9mm kurz with JHP and relatively hot loads. Absolutely the only good thing about it is that it is quite accurate, and in the Enfield revolver has no recoil whatsoever.

It was adopted in 1922 and decommissioned in 1963. So only 40 years. 40 wasted years, if you ask me.

This courageous lady probably had a .38 Special revolver as that is what folks generally get in the U.S. by default. Given the through-and-through wounding, she probably had roundball ammo in it. Would do better with JHP or safety slugs, if that's all the recoil she can stand.

She may decide to upgrade, and given that she scored multiple solid hits and the guy was still talking and ambulatory, that might be a good plan. If he had been drugged up or psychotic, it might not have stopped him.

[ConradofMontferrat]

Oh Jeez Effin Louise!

All you "experts" who Monday Morning QB and complain that "She Should Have" a bigger weapon, more rounds, hotter rounds, and on and on....

Did it ever OCCUR to you that her weapon and her rounds where what she IS COMFORTABLE with? And if she is comfortable with it, she CAN AND DID HIT THINGS!

My ol girl has RH really bad. A +P would probably break her wrist. With a .38, she can get one, maybe two rounds to go in the same direction. After that, HIDE, because lead is on the loose everywhere.

So she uses a .22 auto with hyper velocity hollow points. And she can hit the crap out of anything she aims at. I don't care who the hell you are, you get hit by a swarm of Yellow Jackets, you are going to break off the fight and run, if you can.

The main point here is everyone is DIFFERENT. And that difference dictates a person's "choice" of weapon. So just because it works for YOU, doesn't mean it will work for HER or anyone else.

Bottom line, use what you are comfortable with. Hitting the target is FAR more important than all the other physics out there.

This girl done good. Five hits out of five rounds ended the fight. And that's all that really counts. If she had had a big cannon, loaded with ammo she couldn't control, she would have blasted the wall behind the guy and he would have taken her.

Pulp Fiction anyone?

BTW, the venerable .38 has put a lot of scum in the ground.

(AmericanMom, not blasting at you, please don't take it personal, just using your post to point out that as each of us are unique, so too is our choice of weapon.)

[papertyger]

Did it ever OCCUR to you that her weapon and her rounds where what she IS COMFORTABLE with?

yes it did mr. know-it-all. The problem you don't seem to be able to get through your head is those who take firearms seriously do not accept "lucky" as an successful resolution to a use of deadly force.

Any swinging richard can come up with an exception to good doctrine, but by-in-large you're suppose to refine your doctrine to what works best: not piss and moan about the after action analysis.

[COBOL2Java]

Hope the hospital staff not give him pain killer.

If he got shot 5 times and still managed to flee in his car, I think he must have been high on something. PCP?

[papertyger]

If he got shot 5 times and still managed to flee in his car, I think he must have been high on something. PCP?

Five rounds that don't incapacitate you WILL spike your adrenaline....guaranteed; most especially if you know you've been hit in vital areas.

[S.O.S121.500]

Need to take up a collection and buy this lady some expanding or prefragmented rounds.....them solids go plumb through a body and cause too much mental anguish for the perp.

[ConradofMontferrat]

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Who said anything about “luck?”

And how do you, mr. know-it-all yourself, KNOW she hadn’t trained?

That blather about doctrine is just that.

[Mr Rogers]

For all the folks arguing caliber....

Placement is darn near everything. You can shoot a guy in the head with a 45, but if the bullet blows off part of his cheek, it won’t kill him. You can put 15 rounds of .40 into someone, and if you haven’t hit an artery or the CNS, they may live. You can put a 44 magnum thru the guy’s heart, and he’ll have enough blood left in his brain to shoot you back for 15-30 seconds.

With handguns, there is no certain one shot stop. Not unless you put the bullet thru the brain - and Gabby Giffords is proof that even THEN it isn’t a sure thing!

I sometimes carry a 5 shot 22 because it is tiny and better than a can of mace. I prefer to carry a 5 shot 38 because I can actually CONCEAL it on my body when it is 100 deg out.

For home defense, I prefer either my 7-shot 357, or my SINGLE ACTION 6-shot 357...because they are fun to shoot so I shoot them a lot. I gave my Ruger 45 acp away a few years ago because I had owned it for 20 years and still had the original box of ammo. When facing a bad guy in your home, it isn’t the time to try to remember if you took the safety off, or to have something in your hand you haven’t shot in 3 years.

Very compact guns with more power than a 38 are tough to shoot well. That is why a very compact gun isn’t the optimum for home defense. But the lady did well. She hit the target. Apparently none of the rounds hit a critical spot...but she got the job done. And NO ONE can guarantee a one shot stop with a handgun.

Those who like shooting semi-automatics and are good with them? Great! They are fine guns and excellent self-defense weapons. But they are not a substitute for being comfortable with the gun, good at shooting it, and HITTING what you are shooting at. Too many cops have sprayed too many bullets for me to believe the semi-automatic is THE solution for all people.

[Trailerpark Badass]

She needs a rifle.

Handguns are what you use when you can't have a rifle.

In the home I might use a handgun to investigate a "bump in the night," so I can use a telephone and open doors, but if I KNOW there's an intruder in the house, I will have an AR-15.

There is no practical reason to limit one's firepower to a .38 revolver in the home. An AR is far easier to shoot than any handgun.

Although it was nice that the perp chose to bleed out all over his car rather than mess up that nice lady's house.