Skip to comments.Do You Know About Obamacareís Part-Time Trap
Posted on 01/09/2013 7:22:30 AM PST by lowbridge
Moe Lane highlighted a number of business in several states that are cutting their employees hours (when theyre not actually laying off employees), to prepare for the coming asteroid-strike that are the Obamacare taxes. The IRS, which is in charge of enforcing the bazillion-page monstrosity, recently decided 30 hours is the new full-time and so tens of thousands of workers will find their hours cut from a normal 32-40 down to 29, so their bosses can afford to keep them on the payroll.
The whole cycle of government action/business reaction/government overreaction was as predictable as an Obama campaign speech but that didnt stop the administration from shoving Obamacare on us with a haughty youll find out what its all about later, peasant. Now, were in the reaction stage of the cycle.
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It is incredible that ObamaCARE does not provide
rules for either Congress or Moslems.
What kind of “Law” is that??
A law that violates the equal protection clause.
Equal protection? We don’t NEED no stinkin’ equal protection!
Just do it and shut up, peasant. Who are YOU to be talking to your betters that way?
Laws are for chumps. Unless it can be used to give the complainers a fetch upside the head.
It violates common sense.
Even the Liberals who voted for this community organizer will be complaining and I, for one, can’t wait to hear them.
Counting the SS tax restoration (should not have been cut in the first place, but it is was it is), workers are getting pay cuts like this:
Cutting from 40 hrs to 29: 29% pay cut
From 38 to 29: 25% pay cut
From 36 to 29: 21%
From 32 to 29: 11.3%
From 30 to 29: 5.3%
That’s pretty severe - no matter how few hours you lose. Never mind what happens once you’re forced to buy insurance on top of that.
That is the rub I could not get RINO’s and libs I argued with about this stuff. Congress is passing laws and exempting themselves. These idiots could not understand that fact. I guess since this was never covered on TMZ or the Bravo channel they didn’t beleive it.
This illustrates the danger of allowing bureaucracies to make 'rules' which are referenced by laws.
And don’t forget the tax increases, which result in more pay cuts.
On the plus side (by libtard standards), when employers cut hours, they’ll have to hire more employees, which will lower the unemployment rate. Win, win, win! Problem solved. /s
alancarp ~:” Cutting from 40 hrs to 29: 29% pay cut
From 38 to 29: 25% pay cut
From 36 to 29: 21%
From 32 to 29: 11.3%
From 30 to 29: 5.3%
Thats pretty severe - no matter how few hours you lose. Never mind what happens once youre forced to buy insurance on top of that. “
But look at the positive side : unemployment is going down !! / sarc
Just because you cant support your family on one part-time job , you’ll have to find another, second job, if you can find one !
That’s how Zero is improving the economy thru ‘job creation’; ask Joe Biden
It’s too bad that Congress gets paid to do non-Congressional business ; maybe we should pay them only while they do Congressional bussiness , and NOT Pay when they are fundraising for their party.
Congress = part-time work for full time pay and benefits
Again, all according to plan.....
Wait until these workers face not only a cut in hours and pay, but a big “fine” on their tax bill because they cannot get health insurance. Many workers who lose their health insurance will find private plans unaffordable and yet they make too much to qualify for Medicaid. The much vaunted Health Care Exchanges which are to be fully functioning by October 1st of this year are no where in sight. Because many states are opting out of creating the exchanges the federal government will have to create them and there is no money appropriated for that purpose. Hence many workers who now have insurance by 2014 will be uninsured and fined.
To all pin-headed morons and uniformed voters who did not vote or voted for nobama/LIBs/DIMs... BwahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Egg-zackly. like a 'progressive' income tax that punishes people who are successful more than the less successful .
WOW! Those companies doing the 29 hour work week thing is up for a big surprise!
They won’t complain about Obama or Democrats, they will complain about GREEDY COMPANIES who won’t pay for their healthcare. You know it’s coming.
More specifically regarding Obamacare-related labor issues, constitution-impaired patriots are unsurprisingly oblivious to the idea that the states have never delegated to Congress via the Constitution the specific power to regulate voluntary labor. And even if Congress had the constitutional authority to regulate labor, the Founding States made the VERY FIRST (very difficult to find / sarc) numbered clauses in the Constitution, Sections 1-3 of Article I, to clarify that ALL legislative powers of the federal government are vested in the ELECTED members of Congress. So elected members of Congress have a constitutonal monopoly on federal legislative powers whether they it or not.
In other words, by allowing constitutonally undefined federal regulatory pawns like the IRS to define labor-related issues, like what full-time hours are, something that Congress itself doesn't have the constitutional autority to do, coward Congress is wrongly protecting federal legislative powers from the wrath of the voters in defiance of Sections 1-3 of Article I. Similar arguments for EPA, FR, etc.
Widespread ignorance of the Constitution has given corrupt Congress a license to ignore its Article V requirement to petition the states for new amendents which would grant Congress specific new powers. Speaking of which, Congress ignored former Congressman Jessie Jackson's resolution to propose a healthcare amendment to the states.
But wait! There's more!
Not only have the states never delegated to Congress the specific power to regulate labor, consider the following. When the Supreme Court was deciding the constitutionality of Obamacare in 2012, it probably never occurred to Constitution-imparied patriots, thanks in large part to Obama guard dog Fx News, that earlier generations of justices had already clarified that Congress has no constitutional authority to regulate, tax and spend for healthcare.
"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress (emphases added)." --Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." --Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"Inspection laws, quarantine laws, health laws of every description (emphasis added), as well as laws for regulating the internal commerce of a state and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c., are component parts of this mass." --Justice Barbour, New York v. Miln, 1837.
Direct control of medical practice in the states is obviously (emphasis added) beyond the power of Congress. Linder v. United States, 1925.
Here's Judge Napolitano clarfying in terms of Section 8 of Article I (what's that?) that federal Obamacare is unconstitutional.
Sadly, as I have ranted in other posts, the delegates to the Con-Con probably never dreamed that the ultimate idea for many citizens of the pursuit of happiness mentioned in the Preamble to the Constitution would be to complain about tyrannical federal government. But since this is evidently the case as evidenced by the way that patriots are reacting to constitutionally indefensible federal programs like Obamacare, the Founders arguably wasted their time writing everything that follows the happiness clause.
Constitution-ignorant "patriots" DESERVE Obama.
Have a nice day. :^)
Don't talk to me.
There is another part to this “part time trap”.
The ObamaCare law specifies taxes on employers with 50 or more full time employees.
The IRS is trying to interpret that as “50 or more full time employees OR EQUIVALENT”. (i.e., 20 employees at 20 hrs per week = 10 full time employees).
I expect this one to go to court — if Congress had wanted to add the words “or equivalent”, they could have — but didn’t.