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Elite Colleges Struggle To Recruit Smart, Low-Income Kids (NPR - unintentioned honesty)
NPR ^ | 1-9-13 | Shankar Vedantami

Posted on 01/09/2013 12:12:32 PM PST by wac3rd

Across the United States, college administrators are poring over student essays, recommendation letters and SAT scores as they select a freshman class for the fall. If this is like most years, administrators at top schools such as Harvard and Stanford will try hard to find talented high school students from poor families in a push to increase the socioeconomic diversity on campus and to counter the growing concern that highly selective colleges cater mainly to students from privileged backgrounds.

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"Imagine a student who is the only student who is a likely candidate for a place like Harvard or Stanford or University of Chicago — and he's not just the only student in his or her high school, but he's the only student that that high school has graduated like that in, say, three or four years," Hoxby says.

Without mentors and academically talented peers, Hoxby says, many of these students fail to apply to schools that can offer them a premium education free of charge. And because the students are widely dispersed across the 42,000 high schools in the country, college recruiters have a hard time finding them.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; education; highereducation; npr; preferences
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There is so much irony and honesty here, NPR will probably pull the article off soon when the Justice Bros. complain.
1 posted on 01/09/2013 12:12:41 PM PST by wac3rd
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To: wac3rd

At some point, after pissing in the educational pool for decades in the name of social justice, your pool becomes loaded with filth.

Harvard and these other institutes of “higher” learning could burn to the ground tomorrow, and I wouldn’t shed a single tear.


2 posted on 01/09/2013 12:17:30 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: wac3rd

“Hoxby says some college administers had confided to her that they had reluctantly come to the conclusion that the pool of low-income students with top academic credentials was just limited, and there wasn’t much they could do to change that.

But in an analysis published with Christopher Avery in December, Hoxby has shown that this conclusion isn’t true...”

BS. It is true. Trust me... if you have a good ACT scores, they’ll find you. The “pool” they’re looking at IS limited.


3 posted on 01/09/2013 12:25:11 PM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: wac3rd

The truth is they are looking for low income kids, but not white ones.
Minorities, diversity, anything but white.


4 posted on 01/09/2013 12:25:29 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: rarestia

If you are Chinese or Korean and applying to these schools, you are at a true disadvantage. These schools severely discriminate against Asians.


5 posted on 01/09/2013 12:25:52 PM PST by PGR88
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To: wac3rd

Harvard paid Paleface Lizzy Warren over $300,000 to teach one class.
Harvard - They’ve got more money than brains.


6 posted on 01/09/2013 12:27:38 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: wac3rd

Several of my daughter’s classmates applied to Harvard and other schools, and were accepted with full scholarships - they just couldn’t afford the more than $10,000 the university demanded to pay for their university mandated health insurance, and instead took full offers from other institutions.


7 posted on 01/09/2013 12:29:20 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: wac3rd

Going to an elite college means nothing anymore.


8 posted on 01/09/2013 12:30:11 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: kingu

“Several of my daughter’s classmates applied to Harvard and other schools, and were accepted with full scholarships - they just couldn’t afford the more than $10,000 the university demanded to pay for their university mandated health insurance..”

For real?


9 posted on 01/09/2013 12:35:41 PM PST by Bizhvywt
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To: wac3rd
The trouble is, it takes much more than good high-school grades and intelligence to make it in college, especially an elite college. It takes a character that is inculcated by a culture. The character needs to value working for a future reward over immediate reward, for starters.

Most low-income cultures do not value the character traits necessary. It's a sad truth, but it can't be avoided by wishing it away.

10 posted on 01/09/2013 12:35:41 PM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: ILS21R
if you have a good ACT scores, they’ll find you

ACT or SAT ... and if you do well on the PSAT, every university knows about it.

11 posted on 01/09/2013 12:35:58 PM PST by Tax-chick (Please explain how my being in a fuss would help the situation.)
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To: Tax-chick

>>ACT or SAT ... and if you do well on the PSAT, every university knows about it.<<

True.


12 posted on 01/09/2013 12:38:14 PM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: wac3rd
Any students who might come close to fitting the description has to first get passed the peer pressure to not "act White" in high school by excelling in studies.

-PJ

13 posted on 01/09/2013 12:39:17 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: ArGee
The character needs to value working for a future reward over immediate reward, for starters.

This is one quality that is, to some extent, measured by standardized test scores. The tests don't give extra points for being a nice kid who doesn't cause trouble in class.

14 posted on 01/09/2013 12:39:35 PM PST by Tax-chick (Please explain how my being in a fuss would help the situation.)
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To: freekitty

“Going to an elite college means nothing anymore.”

True. I have a friend who went to UC Berkeley while I went to a culinary academy. Four years later she’s piling up debt and is worried about finding work after she graduates this year. Me? I work sporadically, am married, have four kids, and have no debt. My girlfriend can’t even imagine being where I am for at least 15-20 years.

In short, elite colleges are a scam and the reason the banks make student loans is because it’s illegal for them to buy slaves.


15 posted on 01/09/2013 12:44:44 PM PST by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Tax-chick

Dem standarzied tests be racist!!


16 posted on 01/09/2013 12:47:05 PM PST by USAF80
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To: freekitty

That’s not completely true. If you’re an engineer, schools like MIT, Purdue, Carnegie Melon, Stanford, etc. help with better job placement. Certain financial institutions only hire from top tier MBA programs. If you’re taking AA or women’s studies, Starbucks doesn’t care.


17 posted on 01/09/2013 12:50:31 PM PST by EEGator
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To: ILS21R

My oldest boy was getting calls from places we’d never heard of, with scholarship offers, just because of his PSAT and SAT verbal scores. If he wanted a liberal-arts school, it would have been great, but he plans to study business ;-).


18 posted on 01/09/2013 12:54:55 PM PST by Tax-chick (Please explain how my being in a fuss would help the situation.)
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To: wac3rd

Bring ‘em in and flunk ‘em out. Most the time, they are poor because their parents are stupid. Sometimes you’ll find a kid whose parents are just lazy or unmotivated but smart. But most of the time, it’s not the case.


19 posted on 01/09/2013 12:55:35 PM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: USAF80

I know, it’s totally unfair. The test doesn’t care how hard you’re trying, or what obstacles you’ve overcome in life ... only whether you got the right answer.


20 posted on 01/09/2013 12:58:42 PM PST by Tax-chick (Please explain how my being in a fuss would help the situation.)
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