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Reality Check: Piers Morgan vs. Alex Jones, and the truth about gun homicide rates
Fox19.com ^ | 8 Jan 2013 | Ben Swann

Posted on 01/09/2013 3:17:53 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze

This is a link to a video evaluation of the dialogue between Piers Morgan and Alex Jones. The reporter shows the inaccuracies of "news editor" and so-called journalist Piers Morgan.

LINK


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alexjones; gungrabbers; guns; piersmorgan

1 posted on 01/09/2013 3:18:03 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Newsmax
Obama May Use Executive Order to Grab Guns, Warns Biden
Wednesday, January 9, 2013 01:22 PM

President Barack Obama will consider using executive orders among the steps to curb gun violence following last month’s mass shooting at a Connecticut elementary school, Vice President Joe Biden said.

“The president and I are determined to take action,” Biden said at the start of a meeting with gun-control advocates and groups representing victims.

“We haven’t decided what that is yet,” Biden told the Weekly Standard. “But we’re compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required.”

Biden called it a moral issue, adding that “it’s critically important that we act.”


2 posted on 01/09/2013 3:19:22 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Sgt_Schultze

CNN is part of the “Low Information Media”.


3 posted on 01/09/2013 3:21:56 PM PST by Mike Darancette (LIM=Low Information Media)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Alex Jones may not be the most America-Friendly in terms of national security.....but he severely skooled Peeers on that TV show. Conservatives need to stop being wusses and stop worrying about what the liberal media thinks


4 posted on 01/09/2013 3:27:51 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Fiscal Conservatives are Neither)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
I don't know what happened, but I suspect he did not die on his knees, disarmed.


5 posted on 01/09/2013 3:28:22 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

It should also be noted that British Murder stats should not be trusted as if someone is murdered but they cannot find the murderer the result is not counted as a “murder”....


6 posted on 01/09/2013 3:35:09 PM PST by GraceG
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To: SeminoleCounty
Alex Jones may not be the most America-Friendly in terms of national security.....but he severely skooled Peeers on that TV show. Conservatives need to stop being wusses and stop worrying about what the liberal media thinks

Alex Jones is to Conservatives as Fred Phelps is to Christians, both are whack jobs (yeah, I know Phelps is a dem plant).

While I applaud Jones for his opinion he is not doing us any favors, he comes off as a kook like Ron Paul. (no, I am no Paul bot but agree with him on many issues).

They all give credence to the lib mantra that we who cherish the Constitution are nuts, out of tune, knuckledraggers.

7 posted on 01/09/2013 3:36:04 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Agreed, at least the man has PASSION! Something that the spineless RINO cowards LACK in spades!


8 posted on 01/09/2013 3:37:32 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Travis McGee
I am no way criticizing your graphic, it's effective, in most cases it's the correct narrative, however in the case of Schindler's Jews, it's inaccurate.

No surprise Spielberg left it out, it doesn't fit his domestic political narrative. However if you poke around a bit in the narratives of his survivors, and I believe his wife, you'll learn that left out of the movie was the fact that Schindler accumulated a substantial arsenal for the use of his workers. Modern arms in the context of the conflict, thought to have been acquired both through channels available to him through the Reich to protect his factory, supplemented by purchases from the Czech underground. Carbines, pistols, automatic weapons, some grenades. Prisoners were taught the mechanical operation one at a time, and I believe organized in squads of five. Amongst his prisoners were Jews who had served in the Polish Army, rumored to have been selected for that purpose.

Rounding up Schindler's Jews would have cost many German lives.

Of cours armed Jews, or armed anyone, doesn't fit Spielbergs mindset, so you won't see it in the movie.

For anyone (probably not on this site) who questions the recollections of survivors, it's in Thomas Keneally's book of the same name, which the movie is based on. Odd Spielberg didn't read the book.

9 posted on 01/09/2013 3:43:33 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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A ping to my post 9. It's off topic, but since gun control has become an issue, it's worthwhile information. I'm not suggesting that the SS or Gestapo were aware of Schindler's protection of Jews but didn't act due to the cost late in the war, nor am I suggesting they didn't

10 posted on 01/09/2013 3:49:42 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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A ping to my post 9. It's off topic, but since gun control has become an issue, it's worthwhile information. I'm not suggesting that the SS or Gestapo were aware of Schindler's protection of Jews but didn't act due to the cost late in the war, nor am I suggesting they didn't

11 posted on 01/09/2013 3:49:56 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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A ping to my post 9. It's off topic, but since gun control has become an issue, it's worthwhile information. I'm not suggesting that the SS or Gestapo were aware of Schindler's protection of Jews but didn't act due to the cost late in the war, nor am I suggesting they didn't

12 posted on 01/09/2013 3:50:58 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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The problem is, when you’re polite and calm, you’re called “unbelievably stupid” and dismissed. Buzz Bissinger (Friday Night Lights, Daily Beast), a guest on CNN, suggested Piers “pop” Alex Jones with a semi-auto while Abby Huntsman (Huffpo) and Gloria Allred laughed. If they’re advocating that people should lose the unalienable right to protect themselves should they assume they’re going to be safe? Be honest and tell such people that they have a literal skin in the game.


13 posted on 01/09/2013 4:09:56 PM PST by Hayride
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14 posted on 01/09/2013 4:15:44 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (The trouble with the "masses" is that they never achieve the "m")
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I absolutely agree with you! While I agree with the content of what Alex Jones was saying, his way of saying it was totally ineffective! And at the end of the piece, I actually found myself wondering if he was coked up or something...his behavior was that crazy! Agitated, screaming, kooky.....

yeah, he totally lost the argument for us with his big mouth. Ugh.


15 posted on 01/09/2013 4:20:32 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (I once saw a movie where only the police & military had guns. It was called "Schindler's List")
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To: Las Vegas Ron
While I applaud Jones for his opinion he is not doing us any favors, he comes off as a kook like Ron Paul.

Yup, that's why Morgan had him on. Even if Alex had presented a skilled, reasoned defense of the 2nd amendment (which he did not do), Piers can simply change the subject to Jones' being a truther wackadoodle and then bring up all the other goofy conspiracy theories Alex pushes. These MSM guys like Morgan know Alex Jones is the kind of person that you can get talking about water fluoridation conspiracies which then make everything associated with him look insane.

(no, I am no Paul bot but agree with him on many issues).

Just like most of us on the conservative side. Paul is 100% right about half the time, and the other half the man is off in naive fantasyland.

16 posted on 01/09/2013 4:29:49 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Not that facts enter into the gun control debate now that the Left-wing extremists see an opportunity to end America as we knew it, but here are two journal articles that illustrate the unintended consequences of gun control, namely increased murder and suicide rates, and mass-murder by government of its own citizens.

WOULD BANNING FIREARMS REDUCE MURDER AND SUICIDE?, Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, Volume 30, Number 2, Spring 2007 (pp. 649-694)

OF HOLOCAUSTS AND GUN CONTROL, Washington University Law Quarterly, Volume 75, Number 3, Fall 1997 (pp. 1237-1275)

17 posted on 01/09/2013 4:51:17 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Longbow1969

Yes, but Alex said the one thing that NO ONE has said in such a forum, that the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with duck hunting, it has to to with fighting and checking tyranny. For that statement alone, I applaud Alex for saying what is the plain truth that no one else will say.


18 posted on 01/09/2013 5:00:35 PM PST by abigkahuna (I have achieved the goal of semi-literacy through public schooling.)
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To: Longbow1969
Yup, that's why Morgan had him on.

Yup, I agree completely.

There is a concerted effor now to destroy not only Conservatives, but the Reublican party in general, as well as the 2nd Amendment.

I wish I had an answer as to how we can defeat this, but I think it is too late to do it...peacefully anyway.

19 posted on 01/09/2013 5:26:38 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I’ve stopped being interested in whether or not the libs think we’re kooks, because even if we aren’t, they’ll paint us that way.

I actually think that we’re better off if they think we’re all unstable, with our fingers on the trigger, and mad as hell like Alex Jones is.

If they think we’ll all go postal if gun control passes, then maybe they’ll think twice.

I once saw an article about a guy who taught his daughter how to deal with a bully. One of the best pieces of advice he gave her was to yell something crazy at the top of her lungs, in the most insane, blood curdling scream. He told her to tell the bully that she would pull his eyes out and eat them. She did that, and never had another problem with that kid.

I want the liberals to think that we’re all equally unhinged. Trying to appear rational hasn’t worked for a long time. We need them to think we’re all bat-sh** crazy and are ready for a confrontation.


20 posted on 01/09/2013 5:45:44 PM PST by FLAMING DEATH (I'm not racist - I hate Biden too!)
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To: SJackson

I feel certain that Spielberg didn’t read Keneally’s Book, or if he did, he ignored it.

One of Schindler’s most interesting attributes was that he was an avid motorcyclist. He not only raced the European Circuit in the years before the War, he also designed and built his own bikes.

While this little fact seemed to mean nothing to Spielberg, it served Schindler’s Jews very well. A group of SS on bikes showed up at the factory to round up any retreating Jews and kill them, as the Allies were approaching. Schindler engaged them in Scooter-Talk, Gassed up their bikes, and sent them off in a haze of camaraderie. They never knew of the few hundred Jews who were hiding just behind the factory wall.

That would have made a terrific movie sequence, but for some reason it didn’t fit Spielberg’s agenda, so it was never mentioned.


21 posted on 01/09/2013 6:05:24 PM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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