Posted on 01/10/2013 5:20:09 AM PST by spirited irish
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Even today, you can look at the Middle East or Africa and see a lot of savagery among people who do not know Christ.
Now, let's be clear: Christianity does not make any man sinless and does not prevent all barbarism and savagery. But the modern world of civilized behavior is overwhelmingly a construction of the Christian culture.
Dark forces have conspired to remove Christianity from our society. This opens the door to things like Sandy Hook -- and Obama's tyranny.
Without Christ, we are lost as individuals, and society is lost as well.
The restraint of mans passions, by God and by the examples from Bible to give order to mankind in his personal relationships has been successful; when not followed as a psychological, sociological, and legal guide societies fall into the abyss of unrestrained passions.
The failure of men to limit their own desires under the guise of personal freedoms soon becomes dictatorial as they demand all others give up their previous freedoms to make room for their own.
This is the tipping point, along with lawlessness and personal irresponsibility that destroy society(s).
Once they achieve more than a legal majority, and once they become a super majority devoid of empathy and full of desire, or passions unrestrained the entire group of people are at risk from new self inflicted woe.
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---------------------If, for instance, to take an extreme case, men were reared under precisely the same conditions as hive-bees, there can hardly be a doubt that our unmarried females would, like the worker-bees, think it a sacred duty to kill their brothers, and mothers would strive to kill their fertile daughters; and no one would think of interfering.
To natural selection killing your siblings and offspring is all the same as loving them. Selection only favors what works to enhance survival and reproduction, and it does not matter if it is nice and moral, or harsh and brutal.
- Charles Darwin, Descent of Man, and Selection in Regard to Sex
---------------------The time has come to take seriously the fact that we humans are modified monkeys, not the favored Creation of a Benevolent God on the Sixth Day. In particular, we must recognize our biological past in trying to understand our interactions with others. We must think again especially about our so-called “ethical principles.” The question is not whether biology—specifically, our evolution—is connected with ethics, but how. As evolutionists, we see that no [ethical] justification of the traditional kind is possible.
Morality, or more strictly our belief in morality, is merely an adaptation put in place to further our reproductive ends. Hence the basis of ethics does not lie in God’s will…. In an important sense, ethics as we understand it is an illusion fobbed off on us by our genes to get us to cooperate. It is without external grounding. Like Macbeth’s dagger, it serves a powerful purpose without existing in substance.
Ethics is illusory inasmuch as it persuades us that it has an objective reference. This is the crux of the biological position. Once it is grasped, everything falls into place.
- Michael Ruse and E. O. Wilson, The Evolution of Ethics
---------------------In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won’t find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind pitiless indifference.
- Richard Dawkins, River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life
Naturalistic evolution has clear consequences that Charles Darwin understood perfectly.
1) No gods worth having exist.
2) No life after death exists.
3) No ultimate foundation for ethics exists.
4) No ultimate meaning in life exists.
5) Human free will is nonexistent.
- William Provine (from Darwin Day speech)
I like the overall premise: fighting intellectalism with intellectualism (though that’s a lost cause with the left). Evolution has too many flaws and is actually now an “old and outdated” concept; Creationism is the new trend once again. Using the liberals own tricks against them. I like it! ...lol
…atheism isn't exempt from analysis or critique of its real world consequences. Atheism is a metaphysical stance -- there are no gods and no God, there is no intrinsic purpose to existence, there is no natural moral law, there is no accountability in an afterlife. Those are quite explicit and consequential assertions, just as the negation of those assertions -- that there is a God, that there is a purpose to existence... -- is an explicit and consequential assertion. Atheism lacks liturgy. It does not lack beliefs and consequences. It lacks belief in God; it does not lack belief in the intrinsic consequences of God's non-existence. As Nietzsche emphatically noted, if God is dead, everything changes.
- Michael Egnor
Intellectualism - the ability to use 1000 words or more to say what could be summarized in 25 words or less to give the impression that author is more intelligent than you when he is not....: )
Without God everything is just made up.
best essay I have read on this subject
The author starts by giving a little bit of background on Nimrod (the "Rebel"...like Alinsky's Lucifer) who was "anti-God" (perhaps a Nephilim or offspring of Fallen Angels). He didn't doubt God's existence. He rebelled against God and sided with his forefathers in their allegiance to Satan, Shaytan, Shemyaza, Lucifer (or whatever his name).
Point is...that sect has a god it serves, albeit a god of perversion and evil.
Darwinism and secular humanism are an entirely different sect in not just rebelling against God but declaring that he doesn't even exist. It appears that the secular-humanists are the useful idiots of the Luciferians in a manner similar to how the Marxists in the present world are useful idiots for Islam and Allah.
I don’t believe there is no world without God, just people that do or don’t believe it.
When people want to do something bad enough, they do it. Consequences from their actions, either before death or after death, really don’t factor in much.
We are born equal, but right after that we’re not, we start to change as individuals, some people are good and some people are bad. Simple as that.
Sorry for the double negative, meant...’there is a world without God’...
As one that was, for lack of better description, ‘born without a conscience’, Here are my reasons, to your ‘why not lie, cheat, plunder, kill’:
1. lie: YOU DON’T HAVE TO REMEMBER WHAT YOU SAID YESTERDAY, AND ATTEMPT TO KEEP IT STRAIGHT, TODAY.
2. CHEAT: There’s is always that nagging self-doubt, that maybe you could have made that ‘thing’ on your own, if you had just waited a little longer.
2a. Spousal cheat: it happens, even inside churches and synagogues (mohammedans, in all their get-outs, are just too gay for me to think they even do something man and woman-ish). Take care of your partner, get rid of any self-doubt - which AIN’T easy, and you’ll ‘stay in the yard’.
3. Plunder: could be possessions, money, image, ideas, lifestyle, honor, business ‘things’, need I go on? There is that stupid game, these days, called ‘getting even’. There is another stupid game called ‘non-harmful revenge’. This is similar to a lot of things, that once you start, you can’t quite seem to quit. Divorce is legalized plunder. Busainess lawsuits are legalized plunder. One-on-one, usually ends up with your last ‘why’;
4. Kill: Personal killings, outside of military duty, or law enforcement actions, are acts chosen, even in passion. People forget that they will live with that in their minds for the rest of their lives. Even for those that end up having to defend themselves against attackers, it does not go away. The question arises, “What will I gain from this?” If I do not, why do it? Even in the perception of ‘gain’, comes “for how long?” If there is any self-doubt, or any more questions, then it is something left undone and avoided, for it is not for you to do.
There are no questions of defending hearth and home and family, nor none to be asked, when threatend.
There those that live without a conscience, but still ‘know’ that there are things and actions to be left alone, or left to the actions of others.
Lastly, somewhere I had heard that it was written, that though ‘they’ lived faraway, in another place and time, the ‘seed’ of what is right and good, was still planted in ‘them’. I was born of amoral parents. It took me a little bit longer than some, going through the pinball machine called life, to be able to explain , or at least a hope that I have done so, answers to your questions.
Ferlater
Because it’s wrong. End of story.
those who whoreship at the altar of Darwin...will/have find/found out the error of their ways....
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