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M.E.: Lanza's brain appeared normal
Connecticut Post ^ | January 10, 2013 | Michael P. Mayko

Posted on 01/10/2013 7:34:04 PM PST by neverdem

HARTFORD -- While doctors and scientists conduct a battery of toxicological tests and genetic analysis to help determine what turned Adam Lanza into a psychopathic killing machine Dec. 14, the state's chief medical examiner doubts the reports will offer any answers. Already, he said, an examination of what remained of Lanza's brain showed nothing unusual.

"It's a fishing expedition," said H. Wayne Carver II, whose autopsy of Lanza is one of nearly 1,000 he has conducted during his 30-plus years of experience. "I don't think we'll find answers. But that doesn't mean you don't look."

Lanza murdered 20 students and six educators during what appears to be a video-game inspired killing spree at Sandy Hook Elementary School. He ended the terror by putting a gun to his head.

Carver said the examination of Lanza's brain showed "no tumor...no gross deformity."

But the medical examiner didn't expect to find a gross deformity.

"That would be associated with very severe disabilities," Carver explained. He said people who suffer from such deformities usually require a "custodial" setting.

Additionally, an often-published photo of Lanza gives the impression he had a large head and might have suffered from a genetic mutation called Fragile X syndrome.

Fragile X is "the most common cause of inherited intellectual disability and the most common known genetic cause of autism or autism spectrum disorders," according to the National Fragile X Foundation.

The mutation involves the FMR1 gene not producing enough protein for the brain to grow properly. This causes mental retardation, usually in boys, and the individual is left with deformities such as a large forehead or a big face.

"We measured his head and it fell in the normal range," Carver said.

The toxicology exam, which could take several weeks, involves testing a person's urine, saliva or blood for up to 30 different drugs at a time.

Carver said tests are done to determine if the person has taken any type of drug that might "affect behavior."

He said these would include psychiatric medications used to treat anxiety, seizures and other issues. The toxicology exam also looks for pain medication, vitamins and natural supplements, along with illegally obtained drugs and alcohol.

"We don't test for marijuana," he added. In this particular toxicology test, Carver said he'd be looking for the "presence or absence" of particular drugs.

He said the result could provide "potentially valuable information" in creating a full picture of Lanza.

As for claims Lanza suffered from Asperger's syndrome, an autism-related disorder, Carver said that requires a "functional" test and in this case, the patient was deceased.

Additionally, Carver was asked if he thought any biochemical issues like an excess or deficiency of dopamine, serotonin or other neurotransmitters might have played a role in Lanza's behavior.

"Don't over read on that," he warned.

"Inborne errors of (issues like) metabolism are not subtle," he said. "Most are fatal."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: lanza; newtown; sandyhook
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1 posted on 01/10/2013 7:34:15 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

That’s a relief. Apparently Lanza did not play football.


2 posted on 01/10/2013 7:37:00 PM PST by madison10
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To: neverdem

It’s been months. What drugs was he taking? Why can’t we be told?


3 posted on 01/10/2013 7:37:44 PM PST by montag813
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To: nutmeg; raybbr; Puppage; wastedyears; RaceBannon; DTogo; jjm2111; puppypusher; muir_redwoods; ...

“The toxicology exam, which could take several weeks, involves testing a person’s urine, saliva or blood for up to 30 different drugs at a time.”

Tomorrow is four weeks.


4 posted on 01/10/2013 7:38:20 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

For such a slaughter, the reporting continues to be horrid.

Unconfirmed facts, but lots of hyperbole.


5 posted on 01/10/2013 7:39:37 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: madison10

“said H. Wayne Carver”

This was the same strange actor, er I mean examiner who spoke like a blithering crack addict on the Tv interviews and here he seems coherent enough to understand.


6 posted on 01/10/2013 7:40:07 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: neverdem
Hmm. This M.E. sounds like he might actually know what he's doing.
7 posted on 01/10/2013 7:40:41 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: neverdem

I thought he erased then reformatted his brain before he destroyed himself. /s


8 posted on 01/10/2013 7:44:53 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: neverdem

Send his brain to the same organization who study NFL suicides. Junior Seau, may he rest in peace, had trauma but didn’t go berserk and kill children. Get a real study done.


9 posted on 01/10/2013 7:55:25 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: neverdem
What exactly did they expect to find?


10 posted on 01/10/2013 7:55:35 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: neverdem
Okay! SOMEONE has to post this picture......


11 posted on 01/10/2013 7:58:35 PM PST by massmike (At least no one is wearing a "Ron Paul - 2016" tee shirt........yet!)
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To: neverdem

What was on the computer?


12 posted on 01/10/2013 8:00:57 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: neverdem

Much like I thought.
Megalomagazinioma
13 posted on 01/10/2013 8:03:55 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: neverdem

This was a fairly sharp kid. He couldn’t distinguish sitting in front of a tv working a controller from loading guns into a car and driving to an elementary school to murder six year olds?


14 posted on 01/10/2013 8:03:55 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

“They” said the computer hard drive had been destroyed.


15 posted on 01/10/2013 8:05:57 PM PST by liege
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To: onyx; neverdem
For such a slaughter, the reporting continues to be horrid. Unconfirmed facts, but lots of hyperbole.

Because there was supposedly an "assault weapon" involved, so nothing else matters.

16 posted on 01/10/2013 8:09:35 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: neverdem
What turned Adam Lanza into a psychopathic killing machine?

Why not take a gander at the cannabalism lessons taught in the 5th grade which are designed to desensitize a child to the point where they begin to ignore their conscience?

In other words, the progressives figured out how to manufacture psychopaths.

And, one of them just shot up a bunch of first-graders.

17 posted on 01/10/2013 8:09:35 PM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - V. Lenin)
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To: onyx

kind of reminds me of the lack of reporting on Benghazi - no interest in getting to the truth by our free press

I wonder where the shooter shot himself - was he recognizable? Who id’d him to actually be Adam Lanza? So far, I believe nothing I have heard. Why were the paramedics kept out of the school when they arrived on the scene?


18 posted on 01/10/2013 8:15:39 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: DTogo; neverdem
Because there was supposedly an "assault weapon" involved, so nothing else matters.

Well, the first reports said the so-called assault weapon was found in his car.

19 posted on 01/10/2013 8:17:45 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Sioux-san

I’m with you. Facts and truth don’t matter to this current news media. It’s all about the agenda of the administration.

Like you said, we have very few facts on Benghazi and Sandy Hook.


20 posted on 01/10/2013 8:20:09 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: neverdem
Duh!
They can only analize the hardware, not the now gone software.
21 posted on 01/10/2013 8:22:22 PM PST by elpinta (Jer. 10:23 - It really holds true!)
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To: onyx

And then there’s that “burial at sea” of OBL - yeah, right, I believe that one, too.


22 posted on 01/10/2013 8:22:48 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: neverdem
Duh!
They can only analize the hardware, not the now gone software.
23 posted on 01/10/2013 8:23:16 PM PST by elpinta (Jer. 10:23 - It really holds true!)
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To: Sioux-san

I believe the Navy Seals, NOT the Marxist.


24 posted on 01/10/2013 8:25:56 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: neverdem
“The toxicology exam, which could take several weeks, involves testing a person’s urine, saliva or blood for up to 30 different drugs at a time.” Tomorrow is four weeks.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/02/13/deblog-why-do-toxicology-tests-take-so-long/

Having bad results sooner doesn’t do anyone any good, and that’s why law enforcement will often give a four to eight week timeline.

25 posted on 01/10/2013 8:38:34 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: neverdem

Just cut the crap, I’ll getter done when I get a round toit. I’m a government employee and I’ll set the priorities around here. Besides, if his brain was drenched in chemicals or deformed and dysfunctional like Slow Joe’s, the results will not be released until after the new gun control laws are enacted.


26 posted on 01/10/2013 8:45:12 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Save the nation, have your family's progressives spayed or neutered.)
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To: neverdem

Did the people of the USA muse over why Hitler was evil? Evil is f-ing evil. It must be destroyed whenever possible.


27 posted on 01/10/2013 8:49:20 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: neverdem

In a case like this will the state release his school records and medical records???


28 posted on 01/10/2013 8:53:29 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: central_va

“Did the people of the USA muse over why Hitler was evil?”

They mused over why the German people performed evil for him. They even did research to try and find the difference between the Germans and the Americans.

The results were unsettling.


29 posted on 01/10/2013 10:00:33 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Uncle Chip
We can't even find out what gun was used. NBC said there were 2 guns in the school. A 9mm and 10mm pistol. It was said with great clarity that he shot the kids with the 9mm and killed himself with the 10mm. Later they had a news bulletin that there were actually 4 pistols in the school and a "long gun" in the trunk of his car. Immediately the AR15 was suspect as the long gun. Then the helicopter shot at 3am of the trunk of the car showed them ejecting a 12ga round from a Saiga shotgun in the trunk. It was clearly a shot shell from a shotgun with the charging handle on the side. An AR15 has the charging handle in the rear and looked nothing like a Saiga shotgun. Then the ME says all the children were shot with the .223.

So the media says we have pistols and shotguns, but no AR15. Even if the "long gun" was some weird variant of a .223, it was in the trunk while the shooting was going on.

All this manufactured crisis over a gun that may not have even been at the scene. Couldn't the cops tell 100 spent pistol rounds from .223 rounds?

There will be no legal "discovery" because there will be no trial. We won't see the bag of spent ammo, or the guns that were retrieved, or even the contents of the car's trunk, cause everyone is dead. I had hopes when the idiot lawyer said he would sue the school for not protecting the kids, but he dropped that. This will end up just as mysterious as the guns that Koresh supposedly converted to full auto at Waco. Only one person has ever been allowed to view the guns since the massacre.

Now you want to see his medical records and school records. Have we seen Obama's records? hold your breath.

30 posted on 01/10/2013 10:19:04 PM PST by chuckles
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To: onyx
You can see the weapon on Youtube if you look for it. It was a Saiga Shotgun. He unloaded a 12ga round into the trunk plain as day. It was certainly NOT a .223.

For me, I don't think Obama could make a federal case out of banning shotguns, so they settled on the Bushmaster his mother owned.

31 posted on 01/10/2013 10:23:10 PM PST by chuckles
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To: chuckles
Just to make it easy.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju_NllT1iDo

32 posted on 01/10/2013 10:30:43 PM PST by chuckles
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To: neverdem

No they will not find any answers because they don’t want to KNOW the answer. The answer is EVIL. You know like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Bundy, Gacy, and on and on........


33 posted on 01/10/2013 11:15:53 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: SECURE AMERICA; All
Looks like some people knew about it a bit early.

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34 posted on 01/11/2013 12:36:26 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: neverdem; All

http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/10/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy


35 posted on 01/11/2013 12:38:38 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: neverdem

Several weeks? When I have blood drawn by Quest Diagnostics, I get the results back in a week, sometimes a little less. Why should this take “several weeks?” Enough time to blame the tool used/availability of the tool, rather than the person?


36 posted on 01/11/2013 5:02:28 AM PST by wastedyears (My life mostly completely turned around in a few weeks. Now to leave NY...)
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To: onyx

and we see what happens to Navy Seals under this Statist regime.


37 posted on 01/11/2013 5:33:47 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: neverdem

The Newtown shooter was fully taken over by the Enemy and his legions of demons.


38 posted on 01/11/2013 5:46:18 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Sioux-san

Many of them will end up calling it quits in droves.


39 posted on 01/11/2013 5:47:44 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

.....Whose name is refused to be spoken, but this shooting has his fingerprints on it.


40 posted on 01/11/2013 5:50:31 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The irony of it all.


41 posted on 01/11/2013 5:52:18 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: chuckles

<>Then the helicopter shot at 3am of the trunk of the car showed them ejecting a 12ga round from a Saiga shotgun in the trunk.<>

So then the video we see of that trunk being opened in the dark was taken at 3:00 AM???? And there just happened to be a news copter hovering over head at 3:00 AM to capture the moment???

If the police waited that long to open his trunk [which may have had a bomb in it] with his car parked no more than 20 feet from the entrance, that would have been investigative incompetence.

Here is a timeline based on police communication:

http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/politicalcalculations/2013/01/06/eleven-minutes-and-23-miles-away-equals-26-dead-n1479757/page/full/

It indicates the rifle and shotgun found within 15 minutes of arrival:

9:55:25 AM: Weapons report - “Be advised, we have multiple weapons. One rifle and a shotgun.”

I think all the misinformation in this story came from a media who had poor sources who had poor sources who had poor sources. In a crisis people want answers immediately and the media is always willing to oblige its viewers. They want to be the first with breaking news and updates — factual or not — and they may or may not correct the facts later.

And now these media talking heads are immortalized on You Tube videos saying things that are known to be false. And worse yet people are still quoting these you tube videos as factual.

Come on let’s wake up —


42 posted on 01/11/2013 5:53:47 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: neverdem; Lazamataz

Ok, but what about Laz’s brain?


43 posted on 01/11/2013 5:55:28 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: onyx

That is why we have alternate media, such as conservative radio and the internet.


44 posted on 01/11/2013 5:56:32 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

British Knighthood and the Nobel Prize have equal significance.


45 posted on 01/11/2013 5:57:39 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

<>Looks like some people knew about it a bit early.<>

If you think that’s something check this out:

https://www.google.com/search?q=sandy+hook+shooting&num=100&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&ei=h5nsUOqVKqq80QH7k4Fw&ved=0CCcQpwUoBg&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A9%2F11%2F2001%2Ccd_max%3A9%2F12%2F2001&tbm=

Someone knew about Sandy Hook all the way back in 2001 [9/11/2001] !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on — how easy is it to misstype a date or even go back and predate or even postdate something on a computer or the internet.

Do you really think someone there knew about Sandy Hook on December 10th 2012??? And even if they did, do you think they would put it on the internet???


46 posted on 01/11/2013 6:09:49 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: chuckles
We can't even find out what gun was used. NBC said there were 2 guns in the school. A 9mm and 10mm pistol. It was said with great clarity that he shot the kids with the 9mm and killed himself with the 10mm. Later they had a news bulletin that there were actually 4 pistols in the school and a "long gun" in the trunk of his car. Immediately the AR15 was suspect as the long gun. Then the helicopter shot at 3am of the trunk of the car showed them ejecting a 12ga round from a Saiga shotgun in the trunk. It was clearly a shot shell from a shotgun with the charging handle on the side. An AR15 has the charging handle in the rear and looked nothing like a Saiga shotgun. Then the ME says all the children were shot with the .223.

Bingo.

Very well said.

The media and police changed the story around multiple times, which leads anyone with a brain to believe that they are all LYING THEIR FACES OFF about what happened.

47 posted on 01/11/2013 6:25:59 AM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: montag813

Notice the one industry that JOE BIDEN has not met with ... the pharmaceutical companies are getting a pass on this.

I want the drugs and people on the drugs tracked.


48 posted on 01/11/2013 6:27:18 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Prole
The media and police changed the story around multiple times

No -- the media did. Not the police.

None of the police said anything until the press conference and there was nothing said at the press conference that has subsequently changed.

49 posted on 01/11/2013 6:32:25 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: neverdem

State worker accused of showing Adam Lanza’s body to husband

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/04/16350116-state-worker-accused-of-showing-adam-lanzas-body-to-husband


50 posted on 01/11/2013 7:13:29 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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