Lopez: Limit size of ammo clips to stem gun violence

tucsonsentinel.com ^ | January 10, 2013 | Chloe Brooks

[Tailgunner Joe]

A Democratic state senator called Thursday for Arizona to ban ammunition clips that hold more than 10 rounds, saying they enable rampages like the ones in Newtown, Conn., Aurora, Colo., and her hometown of Tucson.

“After Sandy Hook, we said that was enough,” Linda Lopez said. “Those 20 children who were killed there, that was the minority compared to the number of children who die every year because of gun violence.”

At a news conference, Lopez said she also will propose legislation to require background checks for all gun sales and to repeal a state law requiring law enforcement to sell confiscated guns to licensed dealers.

“This problem is multifaceted, but we do have to start somewhere,” she said.

Lopez said she was working on the bills, which have yet to be introduced, with the nonprofit Arizonans for Gun Safety.

That group’s founder, Geraldine Hills, urged lawmakers to look beyond issues of gun rights and gun control to better protect citizens.

“This is not and should not be a partisan issue,” Hills said.

Lopez’s proposal comes two years after Jared Lee Loughner used a 30-round clip to shoot U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and 18 others, six of whom died, at a Tucson-area Safeway supermarket. Loughner, who was later diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, was sentenced to life in prison after pleading guilty in an agreement with prosecutors.

“We can’t just blame the mentally ill for this,” Lopez said.

Besides restricting the size of ammunition clips, Lopez said Arizona needs to require universal background checks for all gun purchasers. That would expand the requirement to include purchases at gun shows and from unlicensed parties.

Rep. Chad Campbell, D-Phoenix, the House minority leader, also proposed universal background checks Wednesday when he announced plans for bills to address gun violence.

Lopez also wants to repeal a 2012 law requiring law enforcement agencies to sell or auction weapons used in crimes to licensed gun dealers within one year of seizure.

A call to Mike Phillipsen, a spokesman for the Senate Republican majority, seeking comment on Lopez's plan wasn't returned by late Thursday afternoon.

[muir_redwoods]

Morons who can’t be taught (or can’t learn) the distinction between clips and magazines and automatic vs. semi-automatic have no business legislating for the rest of us.

[Yosemitest]

The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
We need to learn from the Swiss and implement their "gun control measures" here in the United States right now, today!

" Today, military service for Swiss males is universal. At about age 20, every Swiss male goes through 118 consecutive days of recruit training in the Rekrutenschule. ...

Even before required training begins, young men and women may take optional courses with the Swiss army's M57 assault rifle.
They keep that gun at home for three months and receive six half-day training sessions.

From age 21 to 32, a Swiss man serves as a "frontline" troop in the Auszug, and devotes three weeks a year (in eight of the 12 years) to continued training.
From age 33 to 42, he serves in the Landwehr (like America's National Guard); every few years, he reports for two-week training periods.
Finally, from ages 43, to 50, he serves in the Landsturm; in this period, he only spends 13 days total in "home guard courses."

Over a soldier's career he also spends scattered days on mandatory equipment inspections and required target practice.
Thus, in a 30-year mandatory military career, a Swiss man only spends about one year in direct military service.
Following discharge from the regular army, men serve on reserve status until age 50 (55 for officers).

By the Federal Constitution of 1874, military servicemen are given their first equipment, clothing and arms.
After the first training period, conscripts must keep gun, ammunition and equipment an ihrem Wohnort ("in their homes") until the end of their term of service.

Today, enlisted men are issued M57 AUTOMATIC assault rifles and officers are given pistol.
Each reservist is issued 24 rounds of ammunition in sealed packs for emergency use.
(Contrary to Handgun Control's claim that "all ammunition must be accounted for," the emergency ammunition is the only ammo that requires accounting.)

After discharge from service, the man is given a bolt rifle free from registration or obligation.
Starting in the 1994, the government will GIVE ex-reservists assault rifles. Officers carry pistols rather than rifles and are given their pistols the end of their service.

When the government adopts a new infantry rifle, it sells the old ones to the public.

Reservists are encouraged to buy MILITARY ammunition
(7.5 and 5.6mm-5.56 mm in other countries-for rifles and 9 and 7.65 mm Luger for pistols)
which is sold AT COST by the government, for target practice .
Non-military ammunition for long-gun hunting and .22 Long Rifle (LR) ammo are not subsidised, but are subiect to NO sales controls.
Non-military non-hunting ammunition more powerful than .22 LR (such as .38 Spl.) is registered at the time of sale.

Swiss military ammo must be registered IF bought at a private store, BUT NEED NOT BE REGISTERED IF bought at a range.
The nation's 3,000 shooting ranges sell the overwhelming majority of ammunition.
Technically, ammunition bought at the range must be used at the range, but the rule is barely known and almost never obeyed.

The army SELLS a variety of machine guns, submachine guns, anti-tank weapons, anti-aircraft guns, howitzers and cannons.
Purchasers of these weapons require an EASILY OBTAINED cantonal license, and the weapons are registered.
In a nation of six million people, there are at least two million guns, including 600,000 FULLY AUTOMATIC assault rifles, half a million pistols, and numerous machine guns.
Virtually every home has a gun.

Besides SUBSIDIZED military surplus, the Swiss can buy other firearms easily too.
While long guns require NO special purchase procedures, handguns are sold only to those with a Waffenerwerbsschien (purchase certificate) issued by a cantonal authority.
A certificate is issued to every applicant over 18 who is not a criminal or mentally infirm.

There are NO restrictions on the carrying of long guns.
About half the cantons have strict permit procedures for carrying handguns, and the other half have NO rules at all.
There is NO discernible difference in the crime rate between the cantons as a result of the different policies.

Thanks to a lawsuit brought by the Swiss gun lobby, semi-automatic rifles require NO PURCHASE PERMIT and are NOT registered by the government.
Thus, the ONLY long guns registered by the government are FULL AUTOMATICS."

The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
Remember:

The beauty of the Second Amendment is
that it will not be needed
until they TRY to take it.

Read Second Amendment: It’s Not About Hunting, IT'S ABOUT TYRANNY .

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

Arizona just elected a hardcore leftist/Communist Party sympathizer, Krysta Sinema, to Congress.

For her background, see “www.keywiki.org”, search under her name. She is in with some interesting people.

[Vendome]

Have at it.

Limit clips all you want. In fact, I welcome the limitations on clips.

Do it...

[Vendome]

What’s the problem?

They want to limit the size of clips.

I for one welcome the limitation of clips.

[entropy12]

USSR (Stalin), China (Mao), Germany (Hitler), Cambodia (Pat), Iraq (Sadddam), etc all have one thing in common, civilians were stripped of firearms.

Every other dictatorship in the world (Iran, Venezuela, N.Korea, Pakistan, Cuba, Uganda, Italy, etc.) all have one thing in common, no civilians with firearms.

If people do not learn of actual history, they are doomed to repeat it.

[Secret Agent Man]

this woman is a blithering idiot. i don’t know if you can fix idiot. you just have to oppose it as strongly as possible.

[tallyhoe]

Better Yet let’s limit leftist to 10 in this country all the rest have to leave and we will give them a one way ticket to
Bogota!

[Yosemitest]

I don't !
Civilians should have all the tools to defend themselves the cops do.
Anyone who would limit magazine size should be sent to war with a single-shot rifle.
'Nuff said !

[Yosemitest]

And may the liberals be the first to die !

[Eye of Unk]

This is what happens when liberals escape California, they invaded AZ and are spreading their disease faster than a free Vegas hooker.

[TexasRedeye]

I don't ! Civilians should have all the tools to defend themselves the cops do. Anyone who would limit magazine size should be sent to war with a single-shot rifle.

Limiting "clip" capacity is really O.K. with me. The most common is the 8 round M1 clip so it already meets the "under ten" round capability espoused by the left. Just leave magazines out of the equation!

[Yosemitest]

26 plus years of military experience has taught me to love the 20 or 30 round magazine.
My practice with a quad 50 for a short fully auto 30 second burst was also exhilarating.
I love and own a Garand, but I also have an AR-10 that I respect just as much!

[TigersEye]

Linda Lopez said. “Those 20 children who were killed there, that was the minority compared to the number of children who die every year because of gun violence.”

The vast majority of which are killed with handguns that hold less than ten rounds, stupid.

[Eagles6]

Save

[uncommonsense]

And if the rifle was limited to 10 rounds, only 20 children would have been killed.

I forget what talking head program I was watching and there was a liberal subject matter expert debating gun laws. The host asked this guy if he had ever shot a firearm - not did he own one - and he sheepishly admitted he's never fired a gun! Huh!!!??? How on God's green earth can someone reach the age of 60 in this country and not fire a gun? That seems impossible. He's probably an expert on conservation and has never baited a hook.

These are the morons who mandate how we live day to day and if we don't like it, they'll send their paid thugs over to break down the door, storm in and shoot the family dog, tase grandma, and straighten us out using whatever means necessary.

[SECURE AMERICA]

A Democratic state senator called Thursday for Arizona to ban ammunition clips that hold more than 10 rounds, saying they enable rampages like the ones in Newtown, Conn., Aurora, Colo., and her hometown of Tucson.

Nice when stupid people speak so that the rest of us can know for a fact that they are stupid.
So some evil demented person carrying 3-4-10 ten round clips is better then a evil demented person carrying 2 twenty round clips in what manner?? If you do not understand weapons you should maybe speak to someone that does before you make silly asinine comments on weapons.......

[FreedomGuru]

Linda Lopez is the moron who blamed the tea party and then a vet for the Arizona shootings.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2653526/posts

[Right Wing Assault]

These people have no clue how long it takes to change a magazine. And, if you are shooting children and passive adults trapped in a room, time is not a factor. You could use a muzzle loader and still end up killing 20 people. It just takes longer.

I was thinking it would be good to show them a video of a mag being changed, but then they would say, “OK, I see your point. Let’s ban everything then.”