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Teens charged with 2nd-degree murder [Victim Killed with PEN! Where are the pen control laws??]
WPLG-TV ^ | 1/10/13

Posted on 01/12/2013 5:57:26 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

Two teenagers accused of killing a manafter he introduced them to a female prostitute will be charged with second-degree murder, a judge ruled Thursday morning...

Llano told police he had Hypollite in a choke hold while Xolo stabbed him with a pen and hit him with a broken glassbottle.

Xolo denied using the bottle but admitted to stabbing Hypollite with a pen.

When officers arrived, they saw two teenagers hitting a man who was on the ground, said Hallandale Police Chief Dwayne Flournoy. The teenagers then ran away. Officers soon found Hypollite's body.

(Excerpt) Read more at m.local10.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: assaultpen; guns; murder; pencontrol; pens; pimp
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The availability of pens is a real problem in America. I know they've been around since the founding of the Republic, but the men who crafted the Constitution NEVER expected pens to be used to murder.
1 posted on 01/12/2013 5:57:29 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper; shibumi

http://www.instructables.com/id/Pen-Crossbow-2/


2 posted on 01/12/2013 5:59:03 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to my tagline.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
It's the high capacity cartridges for pens that are the problem. We MUST limit pens to no more than 2!


3 posted on 01/12/2013 6:00:18 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Oh my gosh. There is a pen on the desk.. about two feet from me. Do I slowly back away? Should I run?!


4 posted on 01/12/2013 6:01:54 AM PST by momtothree
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To: SoFloFreeper
When pens are outlawed, only Tyrants will have pens (to rewrite history).


5 posted on 01/12/2013 6:02:45 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: SoFloFreeper
"The availability of pens is a real problem in America. I know they've been around since the founding of the Republic, but the men who crafted the Constitution NEVER expected pens to be used to murder."

Well, with the rate of literacy dropping like a stone due to the public school system, we soon won't have much need for pens anyway...

6 posted on 01/12/2013 6:07:36 AM PST by Truth29
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To: SoFloFreeper

It has been rumored that the pen _is_ mightier than the sword...


7 posted on 01/12/2013 6:08:11 AM PST by green pastures (Cynicism-- it's not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: momtothree

KILL IT!

KILL IT WITH FIRE!


8 posted on 01/12/2013 6:08:28 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to my tagline.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Llano, Xolo, & HYPOLLITE?! Is this a cartoon or a Greek tragedy? (I’m sorry. It’s not funny...well kinda)

Pencils, & letter openers are deadly, too.


9 posted on 01/12/2013 6:08:53 AM PST by KGeorge
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To: momtothree

You should be okay— pens don’t kill people... People kill people...


10 posted on 01/12/2013 6:10:24 AM PST by green pastures (Cynicism-- it's not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: KGeorge

Go hunt around for “dirty fighting methods”.

You’ll be amazed.

[not that I’d know about such things, myself]


11 posted on 01/12/2013 6:10:59 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to my tagline.)
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To: Salamander

And the foulest weapon of all - The Presidential Autopen!


12 posted on 01/12/2013 6:11:56 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: green pastures; momtothree

That doesn’t apply if it’s a Bic Clic.

It could go off at any moment.


13 posted on 01/12/2013 6:12:28 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to my tagline.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Look, pens don’t kill people. People kill people. /s


14 posted on 01/12/2013 6:12:59 AM PST by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: shibumi

Fiat nox.


15 posted on 01/12/2013 6:13:03 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to my tagline.)
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To: Salamander
"KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!"

(Cover it with gas first!)
16 posted on 01/12/2013 6:13:28 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The left suppresses the heretical thought that it is PEOPLE who kill, using instruments such as hands, knives, ropes, bombs or guns.

The left ALWAYS restricts objects. The real problem is people whose value system lets them kill and maim.


17 posted on 01/12/2013 6:15:13 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: KGeorge

Another kid stabbed me in the hand with a pencil when I was in 1st grade.

I have also been the recipient of a poison pen letter from time to time.

OUTLAW all of ‘em. No instruments of writing should be legal.

The ban should be extended to forks, sporks and sporkweasels, too!!!


18 posted on 01/12/2013 6:16:33 AM PST by green pastures (Cynicism-- it's not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: shibumi; momtothree

I didn’t know if mom23 has any accelerants lying about on her computer desk.


19 posted on 01/12/2013 6:16:40 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to my tagline.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
We can deal with this problem in a rational, moderate manner. We don't need a complete confiscation. But really: who NEEDS a Sanford .2mm ultra-fine microball, at least besides lawyers and accountants who are properly certified? Why should pens be sold in TEN packs? Who needs TEN pens at a time? Also, those cheap BIC Biros and Papermates are found all over the place, the Biros in particular have a nasty habit of leaking ink when used in a stabbing. And those high-end Cross pens with their exchangeable cartridge feature ... utterly untraceable. Those old school fountain pens with a military style bayonet sharp nib? Barbaric!

No. Those who insist on pen ownership can use a felt tip pen only (no more than one every 34 days, as computers have made pens largely superfluous for real work); offices must lock their supplies in an approved pen safe. If anyone has need for a hard tip pen (including the semi-hard Pilot chisel tip), the proper form must be submitted. The form is in triplicate on carbon paper. Any indication of using a hard tip killer pen before approval will forfeit both the application and the $300 fee. There is no need for a complete ban.
20 posted on 01/12/2013 6:19:12 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: Salamander

Good point..


21 posted on 01/12/2013 6:21:36 AM PST by green pastures (Cynicism-- it's not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: SoFloFreeper
This article seems to tap dance around some rather obvious points, the first being, when someone is paid to introduce someone else to a prostitute, in the vernacular they are called a "pimp".

Second, that when a pimp and his prostitute have the opportunity to rip off their customers, they will likely take it.

Third, these boys must be plenty stupid to think they can rent a prostitute for $10, after paying her pimp $40.

Having said this, here is a picture of the alleged Mr. Gregory Hypollite. Don't you just love the shirt?


22 posted on 01/12/2013 6:21:46 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: SoFloFreeper

This reminds me of the rude t-shirt caption.

Pen is
Mightier


23 posted on 01/12/2013 6:23:16 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: green pastures

Actually, that’s no laughing matter. DH got stabbed with a pencil in grade school & you could still see the scar 20 sum odd years ago.
Ohhh forks are deadly. So deadly, I believe the Emperor had the plastic forks all gathered up at a luncheon in Florida where he was speaking last summer. I’m surprised anyone gets out of dinner alive.

ROFL sporkweasels


24 posted on 01/12/2013 6:23:39 AM PST by KGeorge
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To: SoFloFreeper

Llano, Hypolite, Xolo...I think I see the problem here.


25 posted on 01/12/2013 6:24:24 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: SoFloFreeper
It only takes an extra second or two when you have to use it, but think of the lives that can be saved if every pen had a safety lock.


26 posted on 01/12/2013 6:29:46 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Salamander

LOL Oh, I would. When I moved into my first apartment by myself, I had a “deadly” potato peeler. I’d peeled off a good chunk of a finger a year or so earlier) Should make for some hilarious reading, tho.


27 posted on 01/12/2013 6:30:17 AM PST by KGeorge
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To: Dr. Sivana

All good points. How long will it take Congress to act? The Big Pen lobby has been intractable.

Perhaps our Dear Leader can just issue an edict against the evil Pen Lobby.


28 posted on 01/12/2013 6:30:52 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: C210N

Ban assault pens!


29 posted on 01/12/2013 6:31:00 AM PST by Rennes Templar
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To: KGeorge

About 10 or 15 years ago (I think it was just after 2001) I was going through airport security somewhere and was asked if I had any sharp objects on me.... I said “yes, as a matter of fact I do” to which I was told “well, lay them out for inspection”. I proceeded to empty my pencil case in the tray at which point the security agent said “yeah, we really don’t know what to do about sharp pens....”


30 posted on 01/12/2013 6:32:20 AM PST by hecticskeptic
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To: SoFloFreeper

The founders never intended for the public to use anything but a quill and inkwell.


31 posted on 01/12/2013 6:33:36 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: Dr. Sivana
Good start but you have completely failed to address the problem of the availability of writing implements in schools.
32 posted on 01/12/2013 6:34:40 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (The trouble with the "masses" is that they never achieve the "m")
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Llano, Hypolite, Xolo, you’re pulling my leg, right?


33 posted on 01/12/2013 6:41:25 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
And you cannot tell me that the big pen lobby isn't targeting our children with cartoon characters used to sell malevolent, cheap weaponry:


34 posted on 01/12/2013 6:42:40 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: hecticskeptic

That was the good old days. It really ticks me off that I can’t even take a crochet hook or a sewing needle into jury duty. We’re kidding around but we’ve really lost our minds on this “security” stuff. We are neither secure nor sane.


35 posted on 01/12/2013 6:42:58 AM PST by KGeorge
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To: SoFloFreeper

I need pens.

What I don’t need at all is teens.

Ban ‘em.


36 posted on 01/12/2013 6:44:58 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

One word;

SHARPIES!!!


37 posted on 01/12/2013 6:51:59 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to my tagline.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Not to be confused with Shar Peis.


38 posted on 01/12/2013 6:53:38 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to my tagline.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Or the dreaded ball point pen knife.


39 posted on 01/12/2013 6:55:32 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to my tagline.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

How about we ban cars which kill 40,000 - 50,000 people a year which is over twice the amount of gun deaths if you discount suicides by gun? If 30,000 people this year died by gun, half would be suicides which leaves 15,000. Yet anyone can own a car and anyone over 18 can operate one. Hmmmm, nope - nothing in the constitution that states “the right of the people to own cars shall not be infringed” The stats on gun deaths compared to other deaths really shows how the communist propaganda machine posing as our MSM influences public policy and frankly I’m getting sick to death of it. For example guess how many people drown every year? 1.2 MILLION around the world and 10 every day in the USA. Ever hear anything about that by our communist propaganda machine? Nope. Can’t control the people that way.


40 posted on 01/12/2013 6:59:58 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: KGeorge

I’m 5’3” and 100 lbs.

“Brute force” is something I’m never going to have.

When I was very young, my prison guard dad actually said “Since you’re a runt, you’re gonna have to fight dirty to survive” and then he proceeded to teach me all the nasty tricks that inmates know.

It was rather a ‘non-normal childhood’ but all my gal pals felt safe as could be when we went bar hopping.

The preferred place was at my right side where an empty beer bottle waited patiently on the floor.

:)


41 posted on 01/12/2013 7:04:42 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to my tagline.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

A poorly concealed weapon, that!


42 posted on 01/12/2013 7:06:08 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to my tagline.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I know *one* person who was killed by a gun.
[suicide]

I know [or rather, knew] several people who were killed by vehicles.

Bizarrely, I do not feel a need to ban cars.


43 posted on 01/12/2013 7:09:31 AM PST by Salamander (Welcome to my tagline.)
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To: C210N

I’m not even going to say what those look like. And they’re for young girls, right? *shakes head*


44 posted on 01/12/2013 7:34:18 AM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: C210N

Broken glass bottles next on the list.


45 posted on 01/12/2013 7:38:39 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

At the time of the drafting of the constitution, they had quill pens that had to be frequently dipped in ink. The government should ban high capacity automatic cartridge and ball points. French made Bic pens are particularly deadly.

And the killing was obviously inspired by violent movies. Let’s blame the producers of “Grosse Point Blank” for including a horrific pen killing.


46 posted on 01/12/2013 7:47:16 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Moltke

LOL. FWIW, that image *did* indeed show up on a google image search for “pen locks”.


47 posted on 01/12/2013 7:49:52 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Pens have been used to rob more people of more money than guns. Just look at all the stimulus and entitlement laws.


48 posted on 01/12/2013 8:14:15 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: SoFloFreeper
It's obvious the Founding Fathers never intended the people at large to be armed with anything more modern than a turkey quill pen!
49 posted on 01/12/2013 8:18:06 AM PST by Gritty (We're gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Salamander

lol Maybe it’s that awareness. I’ve never known a petite woman (both my grandmothers & numerous friends mom’s. Heh. My little sister) who wasn’t hell on wheels if you got on their bad side. Isn’t it awful to even have to contemplate this stuff?
Life was supposed to be more peaceful by now.


50 posted on 01/12/2013 8:40:21 AM PST by KGeorge
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