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Posted on 01/13/2013 8:46:11 AM PST by haffast
Primitive N.C. retreat a bit too primitive for Watauga officials
Watauga County mountain man Eustace Conways passion for teaching primitive living came to a sudden halt in October when local government officials shut down his operation, citing safety and health concerns.
After receiving a tip that Conway had built structures without a permit, Watauga County Planning and Inspections Director Joe Furman obtained an administrative search warrant to inspect the roughly two dozen buildings and structures at Turtle Island Preserve, Conways 500-plus acre retreat in the mountains east of Boone.
In September, Furman assembled a team of building inspectors, health department officials, a tax assessor, and sheriffs deputies, who made a surprise visit to the site. Conway refers to the inspection as a raid.
The following month, local officials ordered Conway to stop hosting visitors and interns at Turtle Island Preserve until he obtains several permits.
(Excerpt) Read more at johnlocke.org ...
The Battle at Turtle Island Continues, Both Sides Stand Firm as Sen. Soucek Could Become Unlikely Mediator - Dec. 7, 2012
"Conway shows reporters the compost pile that he said was deemed illegal by Watauga County officials."
- Unsound structures with rock foundations, high winds could be problematic
- All lumber used in buildings is unmarked not certified by a grading organization
- Motor vehicles without valid license plates
- No gate or protective measure surrounds the preserves sawmill
- Each structure doesnt have fire access roads nearby
- Buildings dont have kitchen areas, sinks, bathrooms, potable hot water, showers
- Unacceptable exterior wood treatment on one of the buildings consisted of motor oil
- Building code doesnt allow use of outhouses for public use
The History Channal - Meet the Mountain Men > Eustace Conway
The Legend: Eustace Conway - (Our State magazine)
Watauga County mountain man fighting to keep his nature camp open - Friday, Dec. 07, 2012
UPDATE: Conway arrested for trespassing
Turtle Island Preserve is currently closed to the public.
We are not accepting any visitors at this time.
Thank you for your support of Turtle Island Preserve.
Does a bear poop in the woods?
Don’t these officials have anything better to do, ferchrissake?
And terminated, when the time comes.
I’ve seen this guy on that Mountain Men show. He strikes me as a hippy
Permit this, tax that, regulate everything.
That’s big brother for ya. No more freedom from over reaching government. Sad.
“and herd all the peasants into high-rise containment facilities”
Our own personal Warsaws.
Come and get me coppers!
I also saw him on the show. When you stick your head up and cry for attention, nobodies like you and I notice, but so do meddlesome petty local bureaucrats with work schedules to fill each week.
They always start with the eccentric outliers. “Look at that nut. We did it for his own protection!” Or witness the Freeper above who says he looks like a “hippy”. Guess that makes it all ok, then.
[[Watauga County mountain man Eustace Conways passion for teaching primitive living came to a sudden halt in October when local government officials shut down his operation, citing safety and health concerns.]]
Correction- Eustace Conway hireso n lackeys who ‘want hte wilderness experience’ so that he himself doesn’t have to work any longer- just orders kids around and makes them do the dirtry work that he doesn’t liek doing- and let’s not forget, that he became delinquint on his taxes on his 1000+ acre stretch of land that he was given hte privilege of maintaining-
Eustace is NOT innocent in all this- He was on giovenrmentl and, and most likely agreed to certaibn things in order to be allowed to live their and he neglected to fulfill his part of hte bargain. This was NOT his own land-
Yep, some of those ‘buildings’ he has are a joke. Any old timer I know would have been ashamed to have their names on such poorly built and maintained structures.
Did I say it made it ok? Or are you just a liar?
We have watched this guy on TV and he’s always crying about something. He got behind on his taxes so he cried about that for 2 shows. Everybody’s agains’t him blah, blah, blah. Hey Eustace, just be grateful you have 500 acres of land and get a job and pay your taxes.
I was wondering how he had so much land. In one show he was chasing “poachers” off his land. I kinda wonder if it was someone on the public land.
Compared to the other two guys in that show he’s a piker.
He did not directly say that you said it was okay. Nothing to get upset over IMO.
The government doesn’t tolerate people who refuse to be under its control. Live in the woods without paying taxes or getting government handouts is something that bureaucrats can’t stand.
The guy is a hippy who is living off other people. He’s not a conservative who wants to live a primitive life.
[[I was wondering how he had so much land. In one show he was chasing poachers off his land.]]
Yeah, not so much- two overweight people AND a camaeraman ‘chasing a lone fit hunter’ and catchign up with him? I don’t think so- it- like ALL the ‘reality shows’ was correographed for maximum ‘drama’ (read: The ‘poacher’ was nothing more than an actor hired to pretend he was poaching)
Eustace charges $95 dollars for ‘spoon carving lessons’ which I’m sure his lackeys happily fork over to him in order to ‘learn how to carve’ a spoon-lol
Eustace is nothing more than a hippy hypocrite who loves capitalism when it coems to himself, but despises it for everyoen else- He’s a merketting entrepeneur who has learned that clueless kids ‘looking for a wilderness experience’ will jump at the chance to do all his dirty and hard work while he sits back and rakes in the dough- I’m not certain, but htese kids probably even have to PAY him for the ‘privilege’ of his ‘experience’
He’s a capitalist who doesn’t pay his taxes- bottom line-
I understand that. Just ignore him and live your own life. I'm not condoning him. Never heard of him. Never watched his show. Other than a heavy handed raid by the government it wouldn't even be newsworthy here. So I read it and go on.
All reality shows are choreographed and staged. The only one I watch is “Moonshiners” because I had a grandfather once that . . . well anyway it’s the only one of them I watch. None of them approach reality either.
FR has built in spell checker. I suggest you don’t ignore it. It would lend a subtle level of credibility to what you post.
I don’t watch them for reality, I watch shows like this one because I want to move out west and live on a ranch 5 miles from my nearest neighbor.
Your post is so poorly written it defies comprehension. What the heck are you trying to say???
The war on mountain pride - published Wednesday, July 11th, 2012 http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2012/jul/11/the-war-on-mountain-pride/
'Mountain Pride' versus the Welfare State - August 24, 2012
Is there an echo in here?
My guess is the Eustaces of the world will be surviving when you are down at the WalMart fighting over the last spoon on the shelf.
“My guess is the Eustaces of the world will be surviving when you are down at the WalMart fighting over the last spoon on the shelf.”
Easy to see you’ve never seen the show. Eustace relies on others to do anything difficult or complicated. In short he’s lazy.
“Dont these officials have anything better to do, ferchrissake?”
-this is what they do, expand their reach and influence. Government agencies must expand or wither and die, which of course will never happen because G-People vote their jobs.
This is why “poverty” will never be eliminated, because to do so would eliminate the need for those who administer to the impoverished.
And the definition and parameters of what “impoverished” is have kept pace with the expansion... or is it vice versa?
You’ve assembled a good deal of supporting stories about this guys plight. Do you know anything about the claims of the left that this came about as a result of “TEA party” types winning in Watauga County (the implication is that all was good until the pubbies took over)?
I hear ya- I watch the gold shows- (another series of fake drama and correographed scenes) because I liek to see the gold (when htey finally get aroudn to getting it, and not complaining all the time)
[[What the heck are you trying to say???]]
M’I Ytrign ot sya taht useless eustice is a lzay hppiy adn a txa chaet adn whnier who lvoes to haeve people feel soryr for him- Basically
Dsoes htat claer htings up?
[[It would lend a subtle level of credibility to what you post.]]
The content of my posts speak for itself to those who aren’t stymied by negligible issues liek poor aspelling- besides, thsi is an informal forum where peopel come to rant- and vent- I don’t particularly care if anyone reads my ventings or not- if you can’t get to the content by wadign htrough the sea od horrble delivery, then whatever- don’t reasd them- noone’
s forcing you to-
[[The only one I watch is Moonshiners]]
That’s one of the worse- apparwently the law down htere can’t find moonshin ers, bvut camera crews have no problem doing so? And hwo in their right mind is goign to be braggign about their illegal activities to the world by sahwoing them their suppsoed illegal activities on national TV? I’d think by now the law woudl realize that the large number of camera crew ‘hiding i n the brush beside the road as the police drive merrily by without a clue as to where tyhsoe sneaky shienrs were’, and drivign by the myriad of A&E vehicvles (or whatever channel is filming htem) meant that maybe, just maybe, the ‘moonshiners’ were close by- but apaprently they don’t because those wassally shienrs are just too slick for them
I just don’t get it- tbhe camera peopel evidently are very ‘lucky camera operators to always be in just the right places and at just the right angles to catch all the ‘developing action’ as it ‘spontaniously plays out’ before them
On you tube they hsoudl the supposed ‘fight’ between scott and captain vern o nthe gold show when they were in the bar together- watchign the video at normal speed you woudl swear that scott (the brute that he ‘is’) broke the glass in Vern’s face, you coudl hear the glass break- but I recorded the show at home, and went htrough the whole scene frame by frame, and the glass never broke— nor did it hit vern’s face, and none of the punches thrown during hte ‘fight’ connected with either man- I mentioend the dubbed in sound (without mentioning that I watched frame by frame and discovered that hte glass did NOT break) and the fact that noone made contact during hte punches, and someoen on yuotube- presumably someoen connectec with hte show, swore up and down they do ‘not dub in sounds’ and that the fight was ‘spontanious and real’ (or soemthign to that fact- I then explained to them what they just said waS BS and that anyoen coudl watch frame by frame and clearly see that what they said was BS
These fake drama shows are gettign tiring- the thing is, these shows could stand on their own without all the feaux paw (sp?) drama added in and sound effects poorly dubbed in-
Even hte repo show with lou and sonia there was a suppsoed ‘real fight’ and I again watched it frame by frame, saw lou compeltely miss the person when he punched, but heard a punch smack sound nonetheless-
And hardcore pawn- what a joke- apaprently every third person in chicago is an exhibitionist who never gets arrested by the law for exposing htemselves in public-
Sorry or htel ong post- I’m not pickign on anyone who lieks the shows, I’m just upset abotu the prodfucers of the hsow lying ot hte public all the time
You may have gained a place in the FR Hall of Fame for that stunning expose’
Frame by frame!!
He has buildings falling down because they are so poorly constructed.
I've seen the show a few times.He is his own man...for that he has my admiration
Those of us who have wilderness/off-the grid type places to *bug-out* to, still have the tax man to deal with. There is no place that is not known to the town tax collector. We're all as doomed as Eustace.
I admired him at first, until I saw how he was using people.
Learn primitive living by shingling my house. yeah that works.
well with hte DVR recorder- you cna go ahead frame by frame- I was curious to see whether these suppsoed fights on various shows were real or not, and come to find out they are not- they are carefulyl correographed with camera angles all set before hand to ‘catch the action’ and to also hide the misses (fake punches)
I was stunned though when the apparent crew member for the gold dredgign show adamantly declared that they ‘do not dub in sounds’- when I revealed that they infact DO dub in sounds, and that hte suppsoed bar fight proved it, there was silence- no more denials
in the psirit of bad spellers everywhere- here’s al ink showing many geniuses were infact horrible spellers- We geniuses are too preoccupied with other htigns to be bothered with spelling
[[4. Ernest Hemingway
So how bad was his spelling? Whenever his newspaper editors complained about it, he’d retort, “Well, that’s what you’re hired to correct!”]]
[[3. F. Scott Fitzgerald
So how bad was his spelling? Preeminent American literary critic Edmund Wilson described This Side of Paradise as “one of the most illiterate books of any merit ever published.”]]
[[Genius and disorders seem to go hand in hand. Da Vinci, was a dyslexic, who wrote most of his theories in reverse script. General belief says that troubled souls have heightened creative powers, which makes for great literature, music and even science. From John Lennon and Agatha Christie to Graham Bell, Thomas Edison, Michael Faraday, Pablo Picasso and Walt Disney, dyslexics have spun images in their heads, played with them, and have created some of the most spell-binding inventions and discoveries.]]
He aws na odl amn who ifshde anole in a ksiff ni the Gluf Sretam nad eh hda ogne egithy-rouf dasy won wihtout tainkg a sifh.
[[He aws na odl amn who ifshde anole in a ksiff ni the Gluf Sretam nad eh hda ogne egithy-rouf dasy won wihtout tainkg a sifh.]]
I See what Youe’r Saynig
You, Sir, are no genius. I can work through your miserable spelling but your construction is obtuse. If folks can’t readily understand your writing, you need to improve upon it or resign from it.
[[You, Sir, are no genius.]]
Are you sure about htat- You apaprently are all knowing- because even htough you don’t know me, or what IQ I sport, you seem to ‘shallowly’) claim to know my IQ simply by looking at how I spell somethign or express my opinion- Soem of htose writers I listed were infact geniouses and their writing was terrible- Their editors had a terrible time deciferign their thoughts- Care to insinuater that they too are ignorant?
If you feel my observatiosn and comments are obtuse=- then point out were you think I may be wrong isntead of strokign your own ego by falsely accusign me of somethign you know nothign about! The context of what I wrote was valid, it was to the points brogught up i nthe article, and htere was nothign obtuse abotu htem- if you feel they were then explain yourself isnteasd of beign rude and shallow and obnoxious- pettiness doesn’t win arguments- and certainly doesn’t pucast a very good spotlight on your character-
[[If folks cant readily understand your writing,]]
What couldn’t you understand about it? My points were plenty clear enough for several folks to continue hte covnersation ina polite and civil manner— but you seem to be so mired in the false notion that spelling equates to genius, that it sparks a shallow and petty insulting nature of yours- but if being rude and shallow to others that don’t tow your little spelling perfection line makes you all warm and fuzzy inside- and if that’s what you need to lift your spirits- well- whatever- I do feel sorry for you-
As I said before- thsi is an informal forum- I left school and it’s formal rigidity a long time agao- and if your are too anal to get past the fact that some folks just aren’t as uptight abotu things like spelling as you are, then whatever- but don’t try to pretend that spelling = genius- because as I’ve shown it doesn’t-
[[I can work through your miserable spelling but your construction is obtuse.]]
Oh and by the way- you can’t wevne use correct descriptions- abnd I’m to take advice from you? My first posts were plenty observant and shapr and clear- If you need to explain slowly what shoudl have been clear and obvious points to you, then lemme know- - but if you can’t make out comments that are direct, observant , and to the point, then I wouldn’t be insultign others and pretendign your crap don’t stink if I were you-