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Republicans Begin Gun Cave
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | January 11, 2013 | RushLimbaugh.com

Posted on 01/13/2013 11:44:29 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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RUSH: Open Line Friday to Seattle we go. Peter, thank you for calling, sir. Great to have you with us.

CALLER: Great to be with you, Rush. Happy birthday to the Surgeon General of Democracy.

RUSH: Thank you very much. I appreciate that.

CALLER: They don't hate you 'cause you're on the right; they hate you because you're correct.

RUSH: Effective, yeah. That's sadly the case. Every time you see me ripped to shreds in the media, folks, understand I've just been effective, and that's why I'm being ripped. Or anybody else on the right. Same theory applies.

CALLER: Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. But I just had to put a call in and thank the voters of California for passing Proposition 30, the soak-the-rich tax amendment and helping move the Sacramento Kings to Seattle. It looks like they're going to be making 13% more on their $60 million payroll, and that would more than cover their losses last year.

RUSH: Wait, is this a done deal?

CALLER: No, it's not a done deal.

RUSH: Because there are local groups in Sacramento that want to buy that team, right?

CALLER: Right.

RUSH: They can get it for cheaper than what the Seattle group can. The Seattle group's gonna have to pay, what, $125 million more than a local group would have to pay simply for relocation fees, actual moving expenses, a number of other things. Of course, the owners of the team, the Maloofs, are aloof. Nobody knows what they're gonna do.

CALLER: Right.

RUSH: They change their minds on a dime. I guess for you guys Prop 30 is a factor, there's no question. But it also depends on how active the local Sacramento groups, how desirous they are keeping a team there.

CALLER: Very true. But I think the main thing is you talk about the moderate Republicans are going to soon be talking about guns as an issue that they need to compromise on.

RUSH: It's already happened. Some Republican from Georgia -- I'm having a mental block on his name. I don't know. I shouldn't say a name because I don't know. I don't remember. But some moderate Republican from Georgia has already made my prediction come true yesterday, that we need to "get serious" about gun control.

CALLER: Well, I think the thing they could say any time they want to say something like is say, "They've tried it already in California." California right now has an assault weapon ban. They have a ban on ten-round magazines.

RUSH: With all due respect, I've been doing this 25 years. One thing I've learned that does not win these arguments or debates with people is logic. Facts and logic don't win. Real world examples are irrelevant. Because we're dealing here with pure, unadulterated emotion. On the Republican side: Fear. The Republicans who gonna buckle on this are the same moderate Republicans...

They're largely from the Northeast, but not all, but they are largely moderate Republicans, they're the same Republicans who think that abortion is killing the party, that immigration stance is killing the party, that pro-lifers are killing the party. Now they're gonna think that this gun business is killing the party.

"We're gonna have to moderate on this. We gotta distance ourselves from the NRA because the NRA is a bunch of wild-eyed freaks and kooks and hayseeds." I made this prediction. Actually a lot of people think this is gonna be the case. Some Republican in Georgia, I think, already crossed the line. I wish I could remember who it was. Maybe I can find it during the break. But pointing out how this doesn't work is not gonna matter a hill of beans, because it's not about policy that works.

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RUSH: Right here it is, folks. It was Phil Gingrey, the Republican from Marietta, Georgia. He was speaking at the Smyrna area council of the Cobb Chamber of Commerce breakfast. It took place yesterday at the Smyrna Community Center. Phil Gingrey, said, "There are some problems, and maybe these huge magazines even for someone who says, 'Look, I just use an AR-15 for target practice.' But do you really need to be standing there shooting at a silhouette a shot a second or even quicker with that kind of weapon? For what purpose?" Gingrey asked. "I would be willing to listen to the possibility of the capacity of a magazine." Meaning being limited.

It was only yesterday. I did not know he said this at breakfast, so he had already said this by the time we offered the postulation yesterday afternoon, but I didn't know that. I'd heard rumblings. Erick Erickson at Red State sent a note, said, "You mark my words, the Republicans are gonna start fading on this just like they have on abortion and immigration." And, by the way, just for what it's worth, Gingrey, after saying he's open to discussion on the limits of the capacity of a magazine, went on to say that Todd Akin was partly right on what he said about rape. He'll be forgiven for that since he had the right position on magazine capacity. If Gingrey had just gone out and said, you know, Todd Akin is partly right, today he would have been taken out. But since he got it right as far as the media and the left is concerned on magazine capacity, he's reported objectively and fairly, ostensibly, in the various places he's been reporting.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; amy; banglist; guncontrol; philgingrey; rkba; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/13/2013 11:44:43 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We need to learn the lesson from The Club for Growth and primary these appeasers into submission. The Club for Guns anyone?


2 posted on 01/13/2013 11:55:58 AM PST by atomic_dog
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Amazing how spineless our (R)epresentatives are...
But this is nothing new. Its been so long since I last hoped I could count on any one of them, except those that came in on the Tea Party wave.
Thank God for Renee!
3 posted on 01/13/2013 11:57:43 AM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
A teacher was arrested today at John F. Kennedy airport on weapons charges....

A public school teacher was arrested today at John F. Kennedy International airport as he attempted to board a flight while in possession of a ruler, a protractor, a compass, a slide-rule and a calculator. At a morning press conference, Attorney General Eric Holder said he believes the man is a member of the notorious Al-Gebra movement.

He did not identify the man, who has been charged by the FBI with carrying weapons of math instruction. 'Al-Gebra is a problem for us', the Attorney General said. 'They derive solutions by means and extremes, and sometimes go off on tangents in search of absolute values.' They use secret code names like "X" and "Y" and refer to themselves as "unknowns" but we have determined that they belong to a common denominator of the axis of medieval with coordinates in every country. As the Greek philosopher Isosceles used to say, "There are 3 sides to every triangle."

When asked to comment on the arrest, President Obama said, "If God had wanted us to have better weapons of math instruction, He would have given us more fingers and toes." White House aides told reporters they could not recall a more intelligent or profound statement by the President. It is believed that another Nobel Prize will follow.

4 posted on 01/13/2013 11:58:28 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: 45semi
Ellmers plans to carry gun in public
5 posted on 01/13/2013 12:01:40 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Serious Gun Control” means tightly grouping your double-taps.


6 posted on 01/13/2013 12:04:55 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Republican Party has sold out - they aren’t the ones that use to counted on...they want exactly what the demo-rats want...control from above on those of us below.

Even the ones I voted for this past NOV 2012 - the ones for Indiana — sell outs - you watch - they will cave - they will come up with excuses...but at the end of the day - they won’t be the ones out there knocking on doors saying, “Hand em over!”

The elected leaders of this nation as it stands are cowards!
They think like elitist - shameful what they will bring about!


7 posted on 01/13/2013 12:05:55 PM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Ah, yes. The Collaborationist GOP is busy selling out our rights again.

But we’ve got to vote for them because....uh... the Democrats will sell out our rights...


8 posted on 01/13/2013 12:07:16 PM PST by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: EricT.

The Democrats and Republicans serve the same master, and it isn’t “we the people.” Dear Leader will not have to use executive orders to confiscate firearms, because the gutless Republicans in Congress will get on their knees and give him what he wants, starting with that useless sack of shit Boehner.

The NWO wants us disarmed. Unarmed slaves are much easier to control. Our “elected representatives” will betray us. I have no doubt.


9 posted on 01/13/2013 12:15:13 PM PST by Astronaut
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I’m stealing that.


10 posted on 01/13/2013 12:15:41 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Bryan24

The GOP is not the answer to our problems


11 posted on 01/13/2013 12:16:00 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: EricT.
I do think we'll get more of what we want by “working with” the GOP as opposed to the Rats. By working with, I mean primarying Republicans that refuse to hold the line It would be nice if their primary opponents would win a general election but the more I think about it, the more I think that it doesn't matter if they lose as long as the message is sent.
12 posted on 01/13/2013 12:18:59 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Stolen, will spread with vigor!


13 posted on 01/13/2013 12:24:58 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Cyber Liberty

lol. Go ahead! It’s not protected by the Castle Doctrine.


14 posted on 01/13/2013 12:25:09 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

That headline made me think of my husband’s gun cave. Obviously not the same thing.


15 posted on 01/13/2013 12:25:24 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

>>He did not identify the man, who has been charged by the FBI with carrying weapons of math instruction. ‘Al-Gebra is a problem for us’,<<

That same group has a long history of drinking and deriving.


16 posted on 01/13/2013 12:25:32 PM PST by freedumb2003 (MOLON LABE)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We need to call our reps and tell them that we will raise money and run a primary against any R who votes for a gun ban. One on one.


17 posted on 01/13/2013 12:28:36 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I learned my lesson after Bush/Dole/Bush/McCain/Romney. I’m no longer a republican; I’m a Libertarian.I ask that anyone who want to criticize Libertarians start by defending the current crop of Republicans. I dare you.


18 posted on 01/13/2013 12:31:55 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: freedumb2003

ROFL. That’s one of the all-time bests relative to this subject. Had to post it here.


19 posted on 01/13/2013 12:33:07 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Cyber Liberty; MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I'm stealing that

I already did d;^)

20 posted on 01/13/2013 12:37:09 PM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
But do you really need to be standing there shooting at a silhouette a shot a second or even quicker with that kind of weapon? For what purpose?"

Spoken like someone who has never done it. By the way what does a magazine have to do with how quickly the weapon fires? With a ten round magazine you still put 10 rounds into a silhouette in 10 seconds or less.

21 posted on 01/13/2013 12:45:59 PM PST by Starstruck (The police carry weapons for self protection)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Gun Rights? 2nd Amendment?

Remember those “rights” are given by God, not granted by Government. Neither Commie Dems nor RINO Pubbies can take them.

This attempt will not end well.

FUBO! FURINOS!


22 posted on 01/13/2013 12:52:11 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: GeronL

The only answer is freedom loving patriots.


23 posted on 01/13/2013 1:40:26 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Darren McCarty

I think it’s a tad late for that, by a few decades. The amount of atrocities that have been committed by the leaders and the amount that they have gotten away with tells me that no amount of voting will fix anything. People lack the will to do what’s needed.


24 posted on 01/13/2013 1:42:14 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

2nd Amendment bump for later.....


25 posted on 01/13/2013 2:10:02 PM PST by indthkr
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If the Republicans cave on guns, they will go the way of the Whigs. I will vote Libertarian or Constitution party.


26 posted on 01/13/2013 2:15:01 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Bryan24

“Serious Gun Control” means tightly grouping your double-taps”

Don’t forget a steady trigger pull. :)


27 posted on 01/13/2013 2:17:09 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

NRA says gun lobby has the support in Congress to block assault weapons ban
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2977729/posts


28 posted on 01/13/2013 2:21:24 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: GeronL
You are so right on that. However, no politician will lead us to the “promised land”. Our forefathers brought this country through on their knees, with a lot of shed blood, and loss of family, fortunes and social respect. We will not win this by donating a few bucks here and there. If we are not willing to get on our knees, or become prostrate before a just God, repenting of abortion and letting our country go to the dogs, we will not see a change, regardless of who we elect. We've given up too much.

I pray that America awakens to the real issue that we are facing, and that is that we are nearly totally destitute of any moral convictions and we are all too willing to sit back and complain until it touches us in some way. I am not pointing fingers at you, but myself, and realizing that we all do this. We talk a good talk, but we do little. Not anything sacrificial, anyway. That is what it is going to come to.

If you think Obama is going to let the Catholic church problem go away, you are deceived. He wants to so vilify them, then we who are protestant and Jewish, until the left becomes totally unhinged at the mention of anything being based on moral issues, then he can say that we are the real problem, that if we were taken care of (reeducated, institutionalized, etc.) America;s problems would all go away. There would be dancing in the streets for a while. (Until they realized that the criminal element was still among them!) We are going to come to this sooner or later. With the heated rhetoric as it is, it cannot be too long. Only a real revival in America would buy us a little time.

29 posted on 01/13/2013 2:22:29 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Shery

bump


30 posted on 01/13/2013 2:29:06 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

mark


31 posted on 01/13/2013 2:34:52 PM PST by cyn (Benghazi.. the TRAVESTY continues)
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To: Shery

“that if we were taken care of (reeducated, institutionalized, etc.) America;s problems would all go away.”

Arbeitsziehungslager

Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp:


32 posted on 01/13/2013 2:37:19 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

a summation of the story.


33 posted on 01/13/2013 2:37:31 PM PST by cyn (Benghazi.. the TRAVESTY continues)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

That is awesome!


34 posted on 01/13/2013 2:39:02 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: 45semi
'“I feel safe with it, and I think we should all be able to defend ourselves as we need to,” Ellmers said.'

good for her, and the others mentioned in the story. I love the "WE SHOULD ALL...

thanks for the link. (heh, my 'mark' post above not needed!)

35 posted on 01/13/2013 2:46:02 PM PST by cyn (Benghazi.. the TRAVESTY continues)
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To: BykrBayb

haha, yeah, that was my first thought, too: “wait, the pubs have a gun cave in DC? good on them!”

gun cave (noun): an idea whose time has come.

gun cave (verb): don’t go there.


36 posted on 01/13/2013 2:49:52 PM PST by cyn (Benghazi.. the TRAVESTY continues)
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To: Starstruck
phuh. that idiot phil gingrey should just ask a a fellow Georgian.
37 posted on 01/13/2013 2:58:52 PM PST by cyn (Benghazi.. the TRAVESTY continues)
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To: Starstruck
"But do you really need to be standing there shooting at a silhouette a shot a second or even quicker with that kind of weapon? For what purpose?",

When it's needed, it's called "suppressing fire"...

38 posted on 01/13/2013 3:43:15 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Bulwyf

I agree with you Rick. If the will was there it would have done the job a decade, or more, ago.

I include Rush, and a bunch of other leading conservatives, in that condemnation!


39 posted on 01/13/2013 4:23:59 PM PST by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Good stuff!

Your first paragraph had me thinking he was arrested on weapons charges because those are all we leave teachers armed with to defend our children that we have gathered into large groups in small spaces.


40 posted on 01/13/2013 4:44:05 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Pray for revival. <BCC><)
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To: RC one
I do think we'll get more of what we want by “working with” the GOP as opposed to the Rats.

I think you are missing my point.

At this point in time, the only "working with" either political party in power I want to do involves angry mobs, rope, and tree limbs.

41 posted on 01/14/2013 4:24:29 AM PST by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Gun cave? You mean like this?


42 posted on 01/14/2013 4:29:44 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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