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I flunked the quiz big time (55%). I don't know much about the agenda of CSM though.
1 posted on 01/15/2013 8:09:09 AM PST by shove_it
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I don't know much about the agenda of CSM though.

I don't either, but I don't think I like them. Why is a question that says "How many Romney voters used entitlements....blah blah blah?" It seems to me that there is some selective data and question manipulation going on here making one think that the usage isn't so bad, that welfare is 'limited' and that medicare doesn't cover everything. Overall, my opinion of CSM after looking at this is that they are libtards.

2 posted on 01/15/2013 8:17:16 AM PST by Gaffer
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39% of those making over $100K tap entitlement programs.....we’re DOOOOOOMED!


3 posted on 01/15/2013 8:19:55 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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“Most Democrats merely want to ensure the programs’ survival.”

BS, but the tipoff to the author’s bias. The programs are not sustainable as they stand and are poorly designed to boot. If democrats were interested in program sustainability and quality of service, they would join Republicans in seeking responsible reform. Instead, they are interested in increasing dependency while exploiting the issue for short term political gain.


5 posted on 01/15/2013 8:23:28 AM PST by sphinx
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The simple fact is that we’re losing the entitlement fight while hundreds of billions in other less politically sensitive spending continues unabated.

I think we need to go after the other spending while focusing on how to change entitlement attitudes for future reform.

After all, people rioting over section 8 housing vouchers won’t care a bit if we don’t give Brazil $100 million for an aquarium. They aren’t going to march in the street if we eliminate the $125 million yearly endowment for the arts. They aren’t going to care if we eliminate a thousand other things that are just as expensive and just as wasteful. They may be drops in the bucket but there are enough of them to fill a supertanker.

The need for entitlement reform is obvious but we need to face the fact that we’re losing that fight because we’re fighting the battle the democrats have chosen and its time to look at new strategies..


6 posted on 01/15/2013 8:26:16 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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I flunked it too. Got the same score as you. I think the intent of the test is to show us that ‘welfare’ isn’t the problem. The problem is old people! How long beforoe the rats start urging us old timers to die peacefully?


7 posted on 01/15/2013 8:27:21 AM PST by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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All I know is that I am constantly standing behind people in the grocery store check-out line who use EBT cards to buy food that I can’t afford and drive away in cars that I can’t afford.


8 posted on 01/15/2013 8:27:56 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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13 of 20


13 posted on 01/15/2013 8:38:48 AM PST by redangus
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Misleading, as usual. The food stamp benefit was per person. The proper number would be the amount per household. What if income was shown per person?


14 posted on 01/15/2013 8:40:18 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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I am the son of a social worker. I saw it on the inside.

There is so much waste, fraud and abuse in the public assistance programs, I would guess 90% of our dollars that go into those programs should be discontinued. There is pure stupid evil going on on the giving end and and on the receiving end.


15 posted on 01/15/2013 8:43:24 AM PST by lurk
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I don’t know how the thing can be quantified when there is NO actual and correct accounting of undocumented’s accessing benefits.

Also, what I call an entitlement may not be what THEY strictly regard as an entitlement


16 posted on 01/15/2013 8:48:25 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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Misleading and agenda-driven. The question about the Romney voters was a dead giveaway. Why no corresponding question about Obama voters? Also, they neglected obvious questions about aid for dependent children programs, Section 8 housing, and the like.


18 posted on 01/15/2013 8:55:52 AM PST by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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There are a lot of self styled conservatives whose definition of an “entitlement” is a government benefit that goes to someone other than themselves.


24 posted on 01/15/2013 9:13:20 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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Welfare recipients can receive benefits for a maximum of 60 months during their lifetime.

Bull hockey. I used to work for DHS in my more naive days. In Texas, they can recieve benefits from birth to death generation after generation.

27 posted on 01/15/2013 9:18:56 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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I got 9 right and 11 wrong (45%).

Back in 2003, I was unemployed from November until April 2004 - I used unemployment, food stamps, etc. When I got a job, I stopped (obviously).

It was (for me) exactly what it is supposed to be. A bridge, a temporary measure.


30 posted on 01/15/2013 9:30:58 AM PST by ro_dreaming (G.K. Chesterton, “Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It’s been found hard and lef)
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Well...first...the article flunked its own test.

Medicare and Social Security are not “Entitlement Programs” as people are to pay into those in order to collect. Exclude the SSI part from the Soc Sec...and this was supposed to be an “insurance”. And, exclude the special provisions for illegal aliens with Soc Sec that both the Dems and GOP have supported


35 posted on 01/15/2013 10:16:04 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (The only automatic weapon is the one Obama uses to take your paycheck)
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In New Zealand during the 1950s government handouts were for everyone regardless of income...

When I was a child we all got free doctors visits and hospitals and operations, free dental at school, (every school had a dental nurse who did check ups and fillings twice a year)..at high school we went to a dentist in the city..

my mother got a small stipend for each child, and we got free schools elementry and high school where we actually learned...

Later when I was working I would go to the government employment agency where they would give me 3 cards with possible employers and by the end of the day I had a job offer that I could not turn down...

If i didnt get a job offer after one week I could receive tiny unemployment checks until I did get a job..but that never happened...

We had to take the job offered to us or go without...

nowdays in the US the unemployed person can pick and choose where they want to work...

If you wanted a better paying job you paid a private agency a healthy chunk to find you one...

I did that a couple of times and did get good jobs..

One of the problems with the “entitlement” issue is the fact that unmarriaged girls are encouraged to have babies on their own and are paid for doing so...

when i was a teenager girls went to a home for unmarried pregnant girls and then gave up their babied for adoption because they coulod not afford to raise them...

the accepted and expected home atmosphere and lifestyle was higher than the hovels that the children live in today...

The neglect that children experience today is a direct result of the government laissee faire attitude and support..

If girls were not paid to have out-of-wedlock babies and the event was still an anti-social and immoral occurance there might be a whole lot less neglected children left on their own...

also if you cant afford food you cant afford that big TV and cable bill nor that ipod etc...


36 posted on 01/15/2013 10:25:25 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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I only got a 50% I also call BS to the 60 month life time cap for welfare. I have a cousin-in-law that has been on it her whole life. Only once did she have a job for a short time and it was working at the welfare office showing others how to scam the system. I think she was forced to get the job or lose benefits. Currently she is back on and last time I saw her she was bitching that the voice recognition on her I-phone didn’t work as good as she thought it should. I guess it was an upgrade to the Obama phone.


37 posted on 01/15/2013 10:25:47 AM PST by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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From the quiz:

"Ninety-seven percent of adults 65 and older have received an entitlement benefit during their lives, compared with 33 percent of adults under the age of 30, according to the Pew survey."

considering that SS is considered an entitlement, (Pew had to take a survey on this ?) This is on the cutting edge of obvious.
40 posted on 01/15/2013 10:33:55 AM PST by stylin19a (Obama - Fredo smart)
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Simplest answer for why many have messed up some of the questions (including me): Since 97% of those over 65 have used one of these “entitlements” due to the inclusion of Social Security and Medicare, it skews some of the perceptions big time... and means that Romney’s voters will have high use due to older voters. In addition, the poll questions must have been phrased “have you ever used ...”, which means many people who were on unemployment for a month or two will be included, and none of us consider that a problem (they also voted romney).

I consider my 13 out of 20 to be pretty decent, given the above, and that many of the questions were guesses between two percentages or dollar figures. Those which I missed, I only missed by a bit.

I, too, take issue with their “limited to 60 months” due to personal knowledge of people violating that in NYState, as well as their calculations of “average benefit” for food stamps... the text they include indicates it is more than $300/mo.


45 posted on 01/15/2013 11:57:10 AM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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I flunked as well. My numbers were higher than they stated.

Although I believe I am correct and they are wrong.


49 posted on 01/15/2013 12:49:09 PM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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