Posted on 01/17/2013 8:55:16 AM PST by Olog-hai
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta joined the gun control debate on Thursday when he told troops at a military base in Italy that only soldiers needed armor-piercing bullets or assault weapons.
Asked by a soldier what President Barack Obama would do to protect school children from gun violence without infringing Americans’ right to own guns, Panetta said action was needed after the attack on a Connecticut school in December in which a gunman killed 20 children and six adults.
He told members of the 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team at Vicenza (Italy) that there were areas where steps could be taken. “I mean, who the hell needs armor-piercing bullets except you guys in battle?” …
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No. We need defense weapons. Badly!
Armor piercing bullets are quite legal for long arms. They are only disallowed for public consumption in the handgun variety.
Before the recent scare, I could have pointed you to numerous in-stock, on-line sources for AP in .223, .308, .50, etc. Everyone seems to be out-of-stock right now...
Heck, even the CMP recently had oldish Greek, steel core .30-06 for sale.
Hey Panetta: Do. Not. Tell. Me. What. I. Need.
Got it Leon?
All the U.S. freeloaders need is a tin cup, but no one is talking about that. Why are our "needs" so one sided in this debate?
[[Panetta said action was needed after the attack on a Connecticut school in December in which a gunman killed 20 children and six adults.]]
Hmmm- did panetta even bother to mention how many innocent children have died in their own homes because criminals with guns mrudered them and their parents didn’t have a gun to protect themsleves and the police arrived too late to save the kids DESPITE THE FACT that the left has assured us- assured us that all we need for proterction is the police?
What hte hell is wrong with peopel liek panetta? Maybe he’s theo ne America needs protection AGAINST
I believe it’s only against the law to sell loaded rounds, but you can still buy the armor piercing bullets which have been pulled from military rounds and load your own.
I bought a couple of hundred at a gun show. Don’t think I’ve ever tried them on steel though.
That is right Pinata, yall have AP and FMJ....
So tell me what are yall doing with all of the HP ammo that the FERAL government purchased?
Do you plan on using it against the LEGAL American Citizen excercising their 2nd Amendment Rights?
“Once you’ve ceded that authority, you are screwed.”
Just ask the kids who have to live with michelle obama’s starvation lunch program.
Come and get them, Panetta, you tyrant. I pray God the military won't obey you, but if they do, there will be blood in the streets.
Folks, the rhetoric from the Left is the worst I've ever seen it.
Do we *need* a defense secretary?
Only for handgun ammunition as per the "Cop Killer Bullet Ban". Armor penetrating and armor piercing ammunition for rifles is readily available, especially in 5.56mm NATO caliber. Just Goggle M855 or SS109.
Current demand has exceeded supply in most areas or may be offered at exorbitant prices.
Please keep yours posts factual.
Armor piercing rounds have been illegal to own for years, BATFE said so.
I believe that only applies to handgun ammunition. 5.56 SS109 and M855 NATO rounds, with steel penetrator tips, as well as .30-06 M2 AP ammo, are exempt by the ATF.
To panetta: Opinions vary. Thanks for sharing yours.
EXCELLENT point. Using that logic, a rouge government alreay has us enslaved. We're already their political prisoners.
I'm wondering....our military is willing to go overseas to protect or freedoms abroad, and free other people abroad, but where are they when we need them to protect our lives, our liberty, and our right to pursue happiness here at home? Why is the military silent on this issue, and other oppressive issues forced upon us by an overpowering, decieving, corrupt government?
We no longer are a free people. EVERYTHING in our lives is regulated or taxed somehow. The military doesn't see this? Do they care? Could they save us?
Actually, you are probably right, but for the sake of argument let's concede that F-35s and Aegis missiles are excluded. Let's assume that equipment exclusively made for use by the regular National Army is excluded.
Everything else must be allowed, including equipment used by local SWAT teams.
The Second Amendment does not have any "except" clause!
...Shall not be infringed ... as an absolute limitation on government is not a suggestion; I have always understood that, legally, "shall" is not a word subject to games or multiple interpretations.
It’s a Bill of Rights, not a Bill of Needs, Leon. Nobody needs to start a newspaper, either.
Jump in a lake.
AP rifle rounds are banned on federal grounds. This is all BS because a well placed lead round outside the armor will still make the recipient combat ineffective.
“A well-placed rattlesnake can be an assault weapon.”
And apparently it makes a good one, since you mentioned it twice. :)
But your point is made. Anything can be used to kill someone, be it a gun, a knife, or a filed-down toothbrush. It’s not the tool, it’s the tool wielding it.
I'll bite. What did Reagan say (besides, "there you go again")?
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