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James Shuls: Why We Need School Choice/ (Math Instruction/ Another Reason to Homeschool)
http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/james-shuls-why-we-need-school-choice/ ^

Posted on 01/19/2013 11:06:58 AM PST by wintertime

Throughout the country, lawmakers have discussed expanding educational options for students by establishing charter schools or allowing public dollars to go to private schools. Yet bills that legislators proposed often failed to gain much traction; in part, because opponents of school choice often hail the traditional system where children are zoned for a local public school based on their address. Some view this method of delivering public education as the model because democratically elected officials control the schools on a local level. Though democratically controlled local school districts meet the needs of many students, they simply cannot satisfy the needs of all families. Many families, mine included, have found the traditional system to be frustrating and unresponsive.

In this essay, I describe the problem with the democratic process regarding public education from my perspective. You may be inclined to agree or disagree with my conclusions about math pedagogy after reading my story. Nevertheless, this story is not written to convince you one way or the other in terms of math instruction. Rather, my story illustrates the difficulties a parent faces when attempting to exact change in his child’s school. In the 2011-12 school year, my children spent 100 days in a traditional public school. I did not anticipate pulling them in the middle of the year, but my wife and I could not come to terms with how the school was educating our children. We sought change, but in the end, we were left with only two options: subject our kids to a style of instruction we felt was ineffective or place our children in a private school. We chose the latter.

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To: BobL

They are welcome to comment any way they like. I just don’t want their moral sewage in my ping list.


21 posted on 01/19/2013 12:25:29 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

You can do the same by substituting, “UFO,” or “moon rocks.” Doesn’t make the technique any more valid or invalid.


22 posted on 01/19/2013 12:25:50 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: wintertime

I understand that opinion. I don’t see why you should have to debate what you don’t want to debate.

Me, on the other hand, I feel I’m called to debate, so I am happy to engage in it. Since the people writing you insist that it’s ‘all about debate and not harassment’, I’m happy to fill in. :)


23 posted on 01/19/2013 12:26:53 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: humblegunner

You’re wasting your time HG and will wind up on the “do not post to me list.”


24 posted on 01/19/2013 12:30:41 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Thank you for stepping up to the challenge.

Personally, Christmas Day was for me the last I could take of the truly vile and hateful insults filling my ping list. I am done with it, at least for a while.


26 posted on 01/19/2013 12:33:35 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Ok, so it’s working.


27 posted on 01/19/2013 12:33:49 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: JCBreckenridge

One more thing:

It is one thing to discuss and issue with a person of good will. It is quite another matter to do so with an apologist of evil.


28 posted on 01/19/2013 12:34:56 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Child abuse is one way to look at it - I’ll have to remember that. I think of Treason - most of the kids just aren’t getting the education they will need to keep furthering the development of this Nation. And the Liberal ideas put into their heads could also be considered Treason, but I’m more concerned about the education part (at least for my own kids).

Not all of my kids’ teachers are lousy - just a few. And if they brought hanging at the courthouse lawn back (Treason), I bet the other teachers would get back with the program real quick.


30 posted on 01/19/2013 12:36:38 PM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: BobL
I’m not sure what the problem is for the government-defenders about being told not to troll this thread.

Awesome job at name-calling there, Bob.

I don't recall having written a single word about education.
Please find it and show it to me. Bob.

explain how it PROVES that public schools are the way to go

Hmm. Who is this "troll" who has put forth that opinion, Bob?

You are sure some kind of bad-ass, Bob.. perhaps you should direct
your comments to these "trolls" who have these opinions you dislike?

Name some names, Bob. Man up, Bob. Hitch up your pants and walk like a man, Bob.

31 posted on 01/19/2013 12:39:56 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: wintertime

Listen, I’m sorry that someone ruffled your feathers. I know it wasn’t me. You are posting on a public forum. By doing so, you are inviting comments.


32 posted on 01/19/2013 12:40:53 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 21twelve
Can I persuade you to see that the very system and foundation is rotten?

Government schooling is the very definition of a godless, socialist, single-payer, and compulsory-use socialist entitlement. Even if the teaching was effective ( and it isn't) the children risk the following:

1) They **will** learn to think and reason godlessly, at least while in the godless classroom. They must just to cooperate in the godless school. How could it be otherwise? No child should be forced by a government to do that. No taxpayer should be under police threat to pay for it. There is no way government schooling can be religiously neutral because such a state can not exist in the mind of any sentient human. This can not be reformed because it is **foundational** to the entire system.

2) All institutional schools must control the children for their safety and to maintain order, but when **government** does this to children it teaches a lesson. Government schools teach children that the government has the power and right to TRASH their First Amendment human and God-given rights. Every day children are told by the government to shut up. They can not publish freely in their government prisons ( oops! “schools”). They can not freely exercise their religion as they choose. And...The government decides with whom they will assemble, and then FORCES on them a godless religious worldview. The risk is that we will become a nation of citizens who are comfortable with the government crushing their God-given rights. This can't be reformed because it is fundamentally foundational to the entire system of compulsory government socialist entitlement schooling.

3) One other place where First Amendment Rights are trashed is prison. In many way, children are treated by the government like prisoners. The risk is that they may learn to be compliant prisoners of the government.

All of the above is foundational and fundamental to the very structure of the institution of government schooling. It can not be reformed.

33 posted on 01/19/2013 12:51:37 PM PST by wintertime
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To: BobL

Do you see what I mean about people of “good will”.

For the time being, I am not engaging in discussion with people who are not of “good will”.


35 posted on 01/19/2013 1:00:15 PM PST by wintertime
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To: 1rudeboy; wintertime
I request that you remove me from you ping list.

Rude has a ping list? Awesome. Add me to it.

In a shocking revelation unveiled today, responding to a person's
comment on Free Republic does indeed automatically ping them!

Lance Armstrong is deeply sorry for this, and Manti T'eo was under the impression that the ping list was real.

In other news, painting with too broad a brush was found to be damned ignorant by a group of noted homeshooled geniuses.

36 posted on 01/19/2013 1:06:29 PM PST by humblegunner
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Re: Treason

Mostly, I think teachers are among the Useful Idiots of the world.

There are only three possibilities why anyone would hurt children and endanger our nation in the way they do. They are evil, stupid, or Useful Idiots. Can you think of any other reason? I can’t.


38 posted on 01/19/2013 1:16:40 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

You have grammatical errors in your statement....


39 posted on 01/19/2013 1:17:04 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: JCBreckenridge
Most of the methods the article's author showed looked similar to methods I learned in the 1970s. The difference is that we didn't keep using them all year. We used little blocks in groups of tens, added them, subtracted them and multiplied them. But after a few weeks we learned the standard methods with references back to the blocks or tick marks an paper. Handicapping the students with inefficient methods just cripples them educationally.

Whoever came up with this curriculum seem to say "Screw standing on the shoulders of giants to see farther. The best the kids can do is stand flatfooted, and any child who even stands on his tip-toes will be punished."

40 posted on 01/19/2013 1:18:19 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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