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Does It Take Another Civil War? (Leftist Call For Gun Violence?)
The Market Oracle ^ | Michael T Bucci

Posted on 01/21/2013 10:52:16 AM PST by blam

Does It Take Another Civil War?

Politics / US Politics
Jan 20, 2013 - 02:31 PM
By: Michael T Bucci

To think that twenty young children massacred in Newtown, Connecticut on December 14 would become catalysts to accelerate the continuing disintegration of American society was unconscionable on December 14th - and it remains unconscionable. While the nation fell into shock followed by grief, many wrote on the web, "Obama's gonna take away guns!" The narcissism of "2nd Amen" cultists is without boundaries it appears; to wit: the NRA rallies.

The goal to divert attention away from those child victims of guns in order to refocus it on themselves (the firearms industry and their plebian Constitutionalists), to protecting gun-owner "rights" and their guns, and now to posture themselves and their constituents as victims, is more than criminal, it's barbaric. It's fascistic. It's evil!

America holds its military arsenal against the heads of all nations in the world, and the NRA holds theirs against the America people. Twenty children, looking down from the Heavens, must realize they are not to blame for blood that will be shed when guns meet guns to resolve what legislatures would not - and that time is imminent. This isn't about the Constitution; this is about control of America by a most dark and insidious zeitgeist ever to visit the land and one that is drafted from the legions of Hell.

When peace-loving Americans get angry enough at "NRA-2nd Amen" specious rhetoric, threats and inflammatory actions, and then follow suit by taking up gun themselves, you will have what historians call Civil War. Hoping this does not occur, the ingredients are in place for it, having been engineered, exacerbated and invoked by the GOP, The John Birch Society, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, the Rupert Murdoch machine, Rand Paul and billionaire Rightists. From the day Barack Obama became President, America's "shadow rebels", militarists, Birchers, theocrats, bigots and racists gained unavoidable visibility. The Great Society has been transformed into The John Birch Society - and even William F. Buckley is turning in his grave. From here, it progresses to fascism.

As in all civil and international wars, the victorious are industrialists, vulture capitalists, profiteers, bankers and oligarchs who shield themselves from the cross-fire, who provoke the insanity of war through hate-media, propaganda, conspiracy theories, paranoia, fear, lies, distortions, demagogues and religionists. They, the rich and privileged, bankroll the entire death operation. The millions who "sacrifice" their lives go unpaid, and soon forgotten. Survivors remember them and honor their "heroism", and this is to justify sacrificing their own children in future wars.

They thought it was about patriotism, God and country, but it was only about money - the victor's money.

Better to die an unpatriotic pacifist without blood on your hands, then to live and never be able to wash it off.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; civilwar; connecticut; cw2; cwii; demagogicparty; guncontol; guncontrol; marxists; nra; partisanmediashills; secondamendment; violencecrazies
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Address your comments to the article, not to me.

I didn't write it, I just posted it.

This guy wants most of us here killed, it seems.

1 posted on 01/21/2013 10:52:30 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

He can try.


2 posted on 01/21/2013 10:54:02 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: blam

Hey Bucci

Please be the first and feel free to visit. Stupid fascist.


3 posted on 01/21/2013 10:57:54 AM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: blam

And here I thought that FReepers predicting a CW over the 2nd Amend are tinfoil, batchit crazy.

(There may well be a CW but not primarily caused by unconstitutional weapon control...)


4 posted on 01/21/2013 11:00:15 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Bread and Circuses; Everyone to the Coliseum!)
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To: blam

This is projection at its worst: “The narcissism of ‘2nd Amen’ cultists ...”, “From here, it progresses to fascism.”, “ ... who provoke the insanity of war through hate-media, propaganda, conspiracy theories, paranoia, fear, lies, distortions, demagogues ...”.


5 posted on 01/21/2013 11:00:38 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: blam

These people are such scaredy cats it oozes from their lips.

Hide behind your mommys skirt little boy, you don’t deserve to be free.


6 posted on 01/21/2013 11:03:01 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: kosciusko51
dead on

It's a window into the mind of the left and/or a drug addict

7 posted on 01/21/2013 11:03:05 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Speaking of tinfoil, batchit crazy, the artile has this prime bat dropping: “Better to die an unpatriotic pacifist without blood on your hands, then to live and never be able to wash it off.”

Cowardly lil’ Libratd, isn’t he.


8 posted on 01/21/2013 11:03:33 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: blam
this is about control of America by a most dark and insidious zeitgeist ever to visit the land and one that is drafted from the legions of Hell.

That would be, rather, Obama and his zombie supporters.

9 posted on 01/21/2013 11:04:10 AM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: blam
Better to die an unpatriotic pacifist without blood on your hands, then to live and never be able to wash it off.

How quaint - takes me back to the nonsense "Better Red than dead" saying of the '60s. Kind of ironic how he seems to incite violence then decides that a coward's death is the "noble" way to go.

10 posted on 01/21/2013 11:05:19 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: blam

Why don’t they all move to North Korea where they’ll live in “bliss and peace”?

Just image the “outrage” from them if some “blood thirsty”, “Nazi”, conservative wrote this.

These people are sick frauds lusting over our demise.


11 posted on 01/21/2013 11:07:20 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: blam; NFHale; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; BillyBoy; ..
RE :”The goal to divert attention away from those child victims of guns in order to refocus it on themselves (the firearms industry and their plebian Constitutionalists), to protecting gun-owner “rights” and their guns, and now to posture themselves and their constituents as victims, is more than criminal, it's barbaric. It's fascistic. It's evil!
America holds its military arsenal against the heads of all nations in the world, and the NRA holds theirs against the America people. Twenty children, looking down from the Heavens, must realize they are not to blame for blood that will be shed when guns meet guns to resolve what legislatures would not - and that time is imminent. This isn't about the Constitution; this is about control of America by a most dark and insidious zeitgeist ever to visit the land and one that is drafted from the legions of Hell.
When peace-loving Americans get angry enough at “NRA-2nd Amen” specious rhetoric, threats and inflammatory actions, and then follow suit by taking up gun themselves, you will have what historians call Civil War. Hoping this does not occur, the ingredients are in place for it, having been engineered, exacerbated and invoked by the GOP,”

Pretty funny stuff.
This antigun lib is talking about other anti-gun libs taking up guns to be used to take out us 2nd Amendment NRA nuts because we oppose new Federal Gunlaws.

Problem is, if they come from NY or NJ then the guns they will be allowed to buy are pea shooters when we will have those real guns waiting for them in the Red states when they try it. And will they ask the NRA to train them in their use?

12 posted on 01/21/2013 11:09:37 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: blam

Ah, another leftist reveals the underlying desire of their ideology -

to use the instrument of the State to exterminate those that disagree with them.


13 posted on 01/21/2013 11:13:03 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: blam; Travis McGee; Jack Black

Heads up! CWIIPING?


14 posted on 01/21/2013 11:13:37 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: blam
Looks like this guy is just a nutjob that gets published on various on line journals. Uses an aol address for a business contact.
15 posted on 01/21/2013 11:13:47 AM PST by WakeUpAndVote
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To: blam
Does It Take Another Civil War?

So it seems they might finally be starting to understand what it is we mean by, "from my cold dead hands".

I bet this prick doesn't plan on getting his own hands dirty killing us.

16 posted on 01/21/2013 11:14:05 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: sickoflibs

No lib I know of is talking about themselves, personally, taking up arms against their political opponents.

They’re talking about demanding that the State do their murdering for them.


17 posted on 01/21/2013 11:14:27 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: trebb

So many women these days believe in “Better dead than wed”.

And I thought the Seventies were bad (I know, off topic).


18 posted on 01/21/2013 11:16:58 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: sickoflibs

19 posted on 01/21/2013 11:17:43 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: MrB; blam
RE :”No lib I know of is talking about themselves, personally, taking up arms against their political opponents.
They’re talking about demanding that the State do their murdering for them.”

This guy says :

Twenty children, looking down from the Heavens, must realize they are not to blame for blood that will be shed when guns meet guns to resolve what legislatures would not - and that time is imminent.

Imagine if the NRA (rhetorically) called for armed resistance against gun law enforcement similarly? It would be on every news channel.

20 posted on 01/21/2013 11:21:40 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: blam

How are the flaming liberals going to engage in a battle...they’re all gun-free, right?


21 posted on 01/21/2013 11:23:51 AM PST by Wasichu
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To: blam

Well, I am making it easy for them to spot me, I’ve got my Gadsden flag flying proud in front of my home. I am ready, willing and extremely able to send them off to hell.


22 posted on 01/21/2013 11:26:33 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Reading this kind of talk from the left takes us a quantum leap closer to it becoming a reality.

Because coming from the left the MSM nor the government will condemn it.

We shall see what develops.

23 posted on 01/21/2013 11:27:46 AM PST by skeeter
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To: blam
...who provoke the insanity of war through hate-media...

I'm not a member of the media. But Bucci is, so it's kind of funny and sad that he would forward such an opinion right after expending ink on two paragraphs wherein he espouses his hatred for "plebian Constitutionalists" and every other vituperative term for 50% of the American population that he can think of under the sun.

I don't think he'll catch the irony.

24 posted on 01/21/2013 11:29:43 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: GladesGuru

Speaking of tinfoil, batchit crazy, the artile has this prime bat dropping: “Better to die an unpatriotic pacifist without blood on your hands, then to live and never be able to wash it off.”

Liberal Progressives: Better to die under the boot of a tyrant you gave power because they promised that they would take care of you. Rather than to suffer the pain and responsibility of having to take responsibility for taking care of yourself....


25 posted on 01/21/2013 11:31:41 AM PST by GraceG
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To: blam

John Birch Society? Birchers? I haven’t heard anything about them for many years.

Rupert Murdoch in favor of guns? Don’t think so.

This libtard is pulling our ALL the stops trying to impress his readers with his breadth of “knowledge”.

Moron.


26 posted on 01/21/2013 11:34:19 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: blam

“When peace-loving Americans get angry enough at “NRA-2nd Amen” specious rhetoric, threats and inflammatory actions, and then follow suit by taking up gun themselves, you will have what historians call Civil War.”

“Peace-loving” to him means liberals. Liberals won’t take up guns so his premise is false.


27 posted on 01/21/2013 11:37:12 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: blam
"Better to die an unpatriotic pacifist without blood on your hands, then to live and never be able to wash it off."

That is the most inane comment I've ever seen. I don't know even know where to start with such stupidity, so I won't.

28 posted on 01/21/2013 11:39:07 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
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To: blam

Oh my gosh! What a lot of hatred this author has and he hates pretty much everyone with the slightest inclination toward decency. He hates everyone so much he is blaming them for his inevitable violence toward them.

This guy is dangerously mentally ill, but, I have often stated that socialists eventually become violent. They stereotype and dehumanize their opposition, gradually build up their hatred, become increasingly oppressive, then attack and kill. That is the pattern of the leftist. Socialism is an ideology dominated by greed and personal gratification. Because these are socially destructive attitudes, the leftist must justify and defend his or her attitudes. The leftist does this by projection, hating, and coalescing around a large group of like-minded leftists to achieve group validation. It is nothing more sophisticated than Bolshevism, Nazism, or Fascism. It is old hat with new hatred. Protect yourself from them.


29 posted on 01/21/2013 11:39:11 AM PST by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: blam
"This isn't about the Constitution;"

Wrong. This is about the Constitution and about the left's reluctance to follow the Constitution.

"this is about control of America by a most dark and insidious zeitgeist ever to visit the land and one that is drafted from the legions of Hell."

Right. Only....the dark and insidious zeigeist drafted from hell is coming from the rabid, radical, anti-Constitution left.

Earth to American leftists: Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.

Get it?

30 posted on 01/21/2013 11:55:14 AM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: Sirius Lee

Yeah, cause leftie morons like Bucci don’t “do” irony, logic or humor. That’s probably due to the “moron factor”.


31 posted on 01/21/2013 12:00:20 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: blam
The screed you have posted is sadly typical of what transpires when mental and moral confusion is allowed to flourish in the guise of "tolerance": a tenuous grip on reality soon gives way to inchoate anger at a world that stubbornly refuses to conform to personal fantasy.

When the imperatives of individual responsibility and the consequences of choice weigh too heavily upon some, they often choose to deny objective truth and the facts of existence by manufacturing an alternative reality, by which they may blame others for their own failures and make of themselves heroic avatars instead of the impotent cowards they secretly know themselves to be.

32 posted on 01/21/2013 12:05:47 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: blam

“The goal to divert attention away from those child victims of guns”

The “concern” leftists have for “The Children” rings hollow. They only care if there’s a political advantage. A million abortions a year, Chicago and other inner city murders, new drug addictions, porn addictions, broken families? They could care less, in fact, it’s encouraged. Oh and all that child abuse too, especially by immigrants. Who cares on your side, Michael.


33 posted on 01/21/2013 12:07:53 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: blam; All
Too bad for the Oppressives, there have been plenty of calls for gun confiscation:
Muhlbauer: Ban, seize semi-auto weapons The Democratic legislator hopes gun owners will surrender the weapons http://carrollspaper.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=14934&TM=35600.75 State Rep. Dan Muhlbauer, D-Manilla, says Iowa lawmakers should ban semi-automatic guns and “start taking them” from owners.
Cuomo Says He’ll Outline Gun Proposal Next Month http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/21/nyregion/cuomo-says-he-will-outline-gun-measures-next-month.html?_r=1& Mr. Cuomo, speaking on WGDJ-AM, he said: “Confiscation could be an option. ”
Why is it so important for them to keep on pushing that LIE?
34 posted on 01/21/2013 12:15:50 PM PST by Voice of Reason88 ( Freedom is never lost all at once - Edmund Burke)
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To: elcid1970

Not so off topic - anything that displays the sickness that society has fallen into is very germaine these days.


35 posted on 01/21/2013 12:27:17 PM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: blam

“When peace-loving Americans get angry enough at “NRA-2nd Amen” specious rhetoric, threats and inflammatory actions, and then follow suit by taking up gun themselves, you will have what historians call Civil War.”

The author isn’t serious so much as he is a loudmouth blowhard.

He can’t possibly think a civil war over the 2A will be productive, much less that his side will prevail.

They won’t. It’ll be a blood bath.

Ironic in that he is calling for gun control and mourning the dead children, while calling for violence.

He reminds of idiotic people who mouth off aggressively while having full knowledge that someone will step in as their proxy and finish a fight they initiated.

Disgusting.


36 posted on 01/21/2013 12:34:07 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Or “diversify” Africa, etc.

Funny how they never want to go to Communist Utopias, or minority-majority areas. Whenever these little cowards “threaten” to leave it’s always white-dominant, Western areas like Canada, Europe or NZ.

Or the American conservative suburbs. Little crybabies indeed.


37 posted on 01/21/2013 12:35:13 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: blam

Forgot to add “You want war to achieve your aims? Any time you feel froggy...Leap! It’ll be on like Donkey Kong. You will be ended and I will go home to beer”.


38 posted on 01/21/2013 12:36:09 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: blam

Basically, this douche is saying the gun manufacturers control the NRA, which controls gun-rights supporters, and it’s all about selling guns. That’s a shopworn gun-grabber argument, with the usual “fascist” name calling thrown in to polish the author’s leftie credentials. The only original part is the threat of violence against gun owners, and the author chickens out pretty quickly. The last line was probably added by his editor.

This guy’s bio exposes him as a disgruntled ex-financial worker now reduced to peddling his bogus advice online. Apparently he’s trolling for lefties to sell advice to.


39 posted on 01/21/2013 12:39:27 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: blam

You look at his list of “editorials” and easy to see he’s far left on everything (i.e., can’t think for himself, just toes the line). But oh when it comes to business and his own cozy nest, he’s all for his own freedom and markets:

Michael T. Bucci
Client Development:

A resource for professional services firms who want to take a strategic approach to growing their business.
Identify and understand competitive strengths/leverageable assets
Initiate contact with new target clients
Arrange and conduct meetings


40 posted on 01/21/2013 12:57:37 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: blam
Better to die an unpatriotic pacifist without blood on your hands, then to live and never be able to wash it off.

My favorite scene in the original Men in Black movie:

"I accept your offer."

41 posted on 01/21/2013 12:58:58 PM PST by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

“Little crybabies indeed.”

Crybabies—who are dangerous and a threat to the Republic.


42 posted on 01/21/2013 1:29:45 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: blam
This fool's mindset is exactly the kind of thinking that one day will have him stealing his mommy's guns and launching an attack on helpless children!
43 posted on 01/21/2013 1:40:40 PM PST by JDoutrider
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44 posted on 01/21/2013 2:30:24 PM PST by devolve ( ---- ---- ---- -CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER_CHEESEBURGER- ---- ---- ---- ---- John Belushi ---- ----)
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To: sickoflibs

“...This antigun lib is talking about other anti-gun libs taking up guns to be used to take out us 2nd Amendment NRA nuts because we oppose new Federal Gunlaws...”

Good luck with that.


45 posted on 01/21/2013 3:21:40 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: ozzymandus; sickoflibs

The guy is a typical liberal jackwwagon. “We can’t have our way so we’ll FORCE you to accept it.”

Lib/commie/socialist definition of “peace” - absence of opposition to our goals.”

Again...good luck with that, sport.


46 posted on 01/21/2013 3:27:24 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Vendome

“...He reminds of idiotic people who mouth off aggressively while having full knowledge that someone will step in as their proxy and finish a fight they initiated....”

There’s a word for that.

Starts with “P” and ends with “ussy”.


47 posted on 01/21/2013 3:28:51 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: blam; ExTexasRedhead

Bump for later read ...................................................................................... FRegards


48 posted on 01/21/2013 3:36:20 PM PST by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: blam
I've been seeing a lot of leftists "acting boldly" of late, and urging "action" against perceived enemies. But it is always someone else they want to do the dirty work.

For the most part, they're shooting off their mouths, much like the barely five foot guy with something to prove does in a bar to the hulk that normally wouldn't hurt a fly. But then every so often, that little guy crosses a line he wish he hadn't......

49 posted on 01/21/2013 3:38:08 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: blam

Good Evening blam. Oh, I wasn’t suppose to do that.


50 posted on 01/21/2013 3:39:51 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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