You questioned the fact that it is BS.
Wrong - I questioned your claim, "Any there for having pot for personal use [...] likely were busted for probation violations."
I’m done with your snarky troll ass.
Posted on 01/21/2013 9:48:38 PM PST by ReformationFan
For some years now, we have been told about a major division within American conservatism: fiscal conservatives vs. social conservatives.
This division is hurting conservatism and hurting America -- because the survival of American values depends on both fiscal and social conservatism. Furthermore, the division is logically and morally untenable. A conservative conserves all American values, not just economic ones.
By "social conservatism," I am referring to the second and third components of what I call the American Trinity -- liberty, "In God We Trust" and "E Pluribus Unum."
It is worth noting that a similar bifurcation does not exist on the left. One never hears the term "fiscal liberals." Why not? Because those who consider themselves liberals are liberal across the board -- fiscally and socially.
The left understands that values are a package. Apparently, many conservatives -- libertarians, for example -- do not. They think that we can sustain liberty while ignoring God and religion and ignoring American nationalism and exceptionalism.
It is true that small government and liberty are at the heart of the American experiment. But they are dependent on two other values: a God-based religious vigor in the society and the melting pot ideal.
Or, to put it another way, small government and fiscal conservatism will not survive the victory of social leftism.
The Founding Fathers made clear that liberty is dependent upon not only small government but also society's affirming God-based values. Not having imbibed the Enlightenment foolishness that people are basically good, the founders understood that in order for a society to prosper without big government, its citizens have to hold themselves accountable to something other than -- higher than -- the brute force of the state. That something is God and the Judeo-Christian religions that are its vehicle.
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He never made any such claim. You sir, changed the nature of the question in post #112.
Tell me why the Federal Government should be in the business of creating a criminal code, anyway?
Seems to me that the Federal Government should deal with international relations and national defense, administering federal territores (which can create their own criminal code), and not much else.
Criminal codes and business regulations should be the province of the states.
The federal code can provide some guidelines and courts for resolving inter-state contract/criminal disputes, but not via a federal code.
Anyway, that’s how I see it.
You questioned the fact that it is BS.
Wrong - I questioned your claim, "Any there for having pot for personal use [...] likely were busted for probation violations."
I’m done with your snarky troll ass.
Like you persuaded Sarah to run?
2012 wasnt a year where ANY Dems were going to be convinced to vote R, those Republicans like Akin + Romney who get the TV cameras made sure of that. Cant compete with that.
Are you drunk?
I don’t even know Sarah Palin, or how to speak to her, why would you think that I have any thing to do with her deciding on a presidential run?
I do know that you devote your efforts on FR to moving conservatives to the left, that you push the left’s agenda against conservatives, and I do think that if you want to assist conservatives on economic issues, then you should quit attacking us, and try to win over those who vote against our economics, not the voters who support them.
It’s just like if I mentioned tbe statistic that 37% of inmates are incarcerated for alcohol related offenses then someone called BS because they don’t believe 37% of prisoners are behind bars just for taking a drink.
Well, duh.
St. Augustine was a Platonist and St. Thomas Aquinas basically baptized Aristotle and the Nicomachean Ethics, adding only the Theological Virtues of Faith, Hope, and Charity. These two people helped form what eventually became the Catholic Church and which morphed into Protestantism.
No “new” ideas are formed in a vacuum—and Western Civilization has a tradition of Logic and the elevation of the intellect ( “Reason” ), starting with the Greek Masters. It is unique in the world and led to the Age of Reason and the Renaissance and Common Law and Magna Carta and the USA.
Individualism-—that there is dignity and worth in EVERY person comes from Christianity and does not exist in paganism—pantheism—Satanism, etc.
All “Western Thought”—including Christianity—was influenced by the ideology of the pagan Greeks.
Faith and Reason was united and enshrined in Christian Theology.
It is why the Christian religion is the most Rational-—of all religions—according to CS Lewis and D’Souza and any logical person. Thousands of debates on little tiny issues and every single word in the Bible—examined for thousands of years using Reason and resorting to “Faith” only when Reason hit a dead end.
yes, sue.
i didn’t make clear my comment was directed to the Mn-Geek,
mngeek, who commented on your comment.
more on the Greeks, page 3
http://catholicism.org/januaryfebruary-2013-mancipia.html
I believe that the preservation of unborn children is a core part of conservativism. Do you?
Here is an interesting documentary film on wasteful incarceration.
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-war-on-drugs/
I also Googled “percentage of prisoners for personal drug use”, and “percentage of prisoners for non violent crimes.” There is a lot of informative material, but not one specific list of statistics. Just looking over the titles it appears that more than half of prisoners are there for non violent crimes, and about 1/4 for marijuana use. A major problem is that because the prisons are crowded, often through mandatory drug sentencing, early release is being given to rapists and murders to make room. Crazy!!
Kevin Cramer would be good, but we’d better line up someone for the House to replace him when he gets elected to the Senate.
I sure agree with you on that. Far too many RINOS if that is your point, far too few conservatives.
Because they don’t believe everybody’s going to hell but them...
Well, we have 6 years for that. The GOP at least has a pretty extensive farm team, unlike the Dems.
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Anyone whining about narrow minded, fanatical, bigoted etc social conservatives who need to shut up should be handed this article and asked to refute it point by point. Of course they won't be able to.
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Anyone whining about narrow minded, fanatical, bigoted etc social conservatives who need to shut up should be handed this article and asked to refute it point by point. Of course they won't be able to.
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Your nutbag heroes make that impossible by saying stupid stuff.
If you tried what you suggest you would find they scoff at you based on last years fatally flawed game plan:
“ What?? Are you kidding? Republicans don't even know how humans are conceived. They apparently think the tooth fairy brings babies. I wouldn't trust them with any position of power and certainly not wimmins health issues”
Its calling ‘killing your own cause’. Maybe that's their goal, to be a minority victim cult. I think they helped Dems generate the current poll results on those issues,
The fact is the Libertarian Party espouses legalization of:
1. Prostitution
2. No holds barred pornography - even on public busses if the owner of the bus company so desires
3. The entire spectrum, A to Z, of the radical homosexual agenda including homos in the mil, same sex marriage, adoption and fostering of children, etc.
4. All drugs
5. Abortion
I read this all on the Libertarian Party website a couple of years ago.
So the LP is a mix of hardcore leftist garbage and anarchy. It is hardcore leftist garbage with guns and low taxes.
It has nothing to do with Constitutional governance whatsoever. And anyone calling themselves a Libertarian, large “L” or small, should stop calling themselves that name if they don’t agree with the above official LP principles. If you call yourself a Libertarian, large “L” or small, and claim you don’t agree with the LP platform, then you are a hypocrite or a liar, or both.
sickoflibs isn’t sick of them enough, that’s for sure.
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