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US sheriff raps officers who say they'd ignore gun control laws they see as constitutional
Ottawa Citizen ^ | 1/22/2013 | Dan Elliott

Posted on 01/22/2013 7:51:50 PM PST by Washi

DENVER -- The Colorado sheriff whose county includes the movie theater where 12 people were shot and killed last year says law-enforcement officers have no right to ignore gun-control laws unless the courts rule them unconstitutional.

Arapahoe County Sheriff Grayson Robinson issued a statement Wednesday criticizing police and sheriff's officials who have said they would not enforce gun-control laws they consider unconstitutional.

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For a law enforcement official to claim that authority would be the equivalent of police officers or deputies deciding that people they arrest are guilty and sentencing them to jail, he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at ottawacitizen.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; colorado; constitution; guncontrol; guns; secondamendment; sheriff
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To: SoConPubbie
"Sheriff Robinson is just achin’ to be removed in the next election appointed as the next Director of the ATFE."

Fixed it for ya'.

41 posted on 01/22/2013 9:55:44 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Washi

Well, we know who the traitors are.


42 posted on 01/22/2013 10:19:32 PM PST by 444Flyer
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To: Washi

“...whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,”

Suck it, sheriff....it’s an inalienable human right.


43 posted on 01/22/2013 10:22:19 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: rwilson99

“I eagerly await this sheriff’s enforcement of Federal Marijuana laws in the great state of Colorado.”

It seems obvious already that he is smokin’ funny stuff.


44 posted on 01/22/2013 10:24:18 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Washi
"Robinson said he supports gun rights under the Constitution's Second Amendment, which has been interpreted by courts to protect individual gun ownership."

These things weren't meant to be interpreted by courts! The test is quite simple:

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

In other words, you can't just make up new stuff. "...shall not be infringed" is the most simplistic way it can be put into words. It doesn't say anywhere "...shall not be infringed, EXCEPT...".
A SCOTUS interpretation is not legit and the sheriff, who is the ultimate authority, can choose to ignore your federal demands. <==(Note the period at the end there...)

45 posted on 01/22/2013 10:24:55 PM PST by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: Washi

Any hungry hogs in Colorado?


46 posted on 01/22/2013 10:39:23 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 ( Nothing so vexes me as a Democrat above ground...ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS.)
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To: Washi
For a law enforcement official to claim that authority would be the equivalent of police officers or deputies deciding that people they arrest are guilty and sentencing them to jail, he said.

Sheriff, you're a damn fool!

"Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule-making or legislation which would abrogate them."

U.S. Supreme Court in Miranda v. Arizona 380 U.S. 436 (1966)

"Constitutional rights may not be infringed simply because the majority of the people choose that they be."

U.S. Supreme Court in Westbrook v. Mihaly 2 C3d 756

"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void."

U.S. Supreme Court in Marbury v. Madison, 5 US (2 Cranch) 137, 174, 176, (1803)

“Every law consistent with the Constitution will have been made in pursuance of the powers granted by it. Every usurpation or law repugnant to it cannot have been made in pursuance of its powers. The latter will be nugatory and void.”

(Thomas Jefferson, Elliot, p. 4:187-88.)


47 posted on 01/22/2013 10:51:44 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Washi

[[The Colorado sheriff whose county includes the movie theater where 12 people were shot and killed last year says law-enforcement officers have no right to ignore gun-control laws unless the courts rule them unconstitutional.]]

BS they don’t have that right- The gvoernment works FOR THE PEOPLE- and when the govenrment FORGETS this FACT the peopel have every right to ignore the government and even to cut off funding-

Several years ago the govenrment tried enacting some insane ‘law’ of the land, and sevral states REFUSED to comply, and hte government was forced to recidn their assinine ‘law’- the government needs to udnerstand that the states do NOT bow down to them- and that the government’s job is to SERVE THE PEOPLE- NOT the other way around


48 posted on 01/22/2013 11:47:39 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: TigersEye

[[”Constitutional rights may not be infringed simply because the majority of the people choose that they be.”]]

Hell the minority of peopel in places liek cali ny and mass have infact ifnringed o nthe people’s rights many many many times- but the peopel there don’t udnerstrand that they have a RIGHT to defend their constitutional rights when their govenrment decides to violate them or infringe upon them-

NY gun ownwers right now need to stand up and say colelctively that the gun law their gov just enacted are null and void and shall not be obeyed because the ifnringe upon their right to self defense (I’ve just heard that they are ifnact doign so- hopefully this will boil down to the outcoem where their gov will lose and lose badly so that the rest of the states see that peopel ARE ifnact not goign to stand for injustice and vioaltions to their rights

It’s just like the newspaper printign the names of gun owners in ny- it was just fien and dandy when they did it to gun owners, but when the tabvles were turned, they ran and hide (armed no less) because they got a taste of their own medicine- Bullies don’t liek it when their victims fight back


49 posted on 01/22/2013 11:56:03 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: virgil

[[Why can’t they ignore them? They ignore immigration laws]]

Because they are hypoctites who are above the law, and who say ‘do as i say, not as i do- or else face a long stretch in prison’ These thugs are the ones who shoudl be doign prison time for their sedition agaisnt the US- they are actively and with force- destroying this country, and their anti-americanism is on display for all to see-


50 posted on 01/23/2013 12:03:08 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

Absolutely! No more backing down and acquiescing to unjust laws and demonization. I also think we should respond less to points made by liberals and simply push straight ahead with our own agenda expressed clearly and uncompromisingly. Just ignore their attempts to entrap us in word games and guilt us with phony straw man arguments.


51 posted on 01/23/2013 12:11:33 AM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: guido911

Maybe, but he’s made the mistake of identifying himself way too early in the game.


52 posted on 01/23/2013 2:51:26 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Washi

Its all about supremacy, the Feds will trump all laws across America because they have more ways to send out threats.

Its a nation of corrupted supremacy, illegal laws thrust upon a country for the sole purpose of division and confusion, nobody is looking at that, they still believe Washington is doing things the right way.

problem is America has become its own Judge Dredd and we the people have found Obama guilty.


53 posted on 01/23/2013 2:59:05 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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To: Washi
Sheriff Robinson maybe contacted, politely of course, at:

Sheriff Grayson Robinson
720-874-4165
grobinson@co.arapahoe.co.us
54 posted on 01/23/2013 4:10:31 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Washi

This is nonsense - “sheriff” is a position created by state law. Unless a state law requires him to, a sheriff can but is not required to arrest someone for violating a federal criminal law.


55 posted on 01/23/2013 6:24:06 AM PST by Stingray51
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To: Washi
It is one thing to take a broad historical view of an issue from 30,000 feet, and can be quite another to view the same issue up close and personal.
Speaking theoretically because I thankfully do not have first-hand experience, it might seem logical for a “liberal” to assume that one shot is good enough for a gun when speaking theoretically but in the heat of the moment she might find ten shots to be quite limiting if she were to find herself dodging and returning fire from even one assailant. And a doctor or other health care professional does not, at least professionally, see the result of the weapon someone does not have, but only the gruesome result of the other person’s weaponry.
After the battle of Gettysburg, Lincoln directly ordered Meade not to call a counsel of war but to immediately launch a counterattack on Lee. But when Meade did just the opposite, Lincoln recognized the trauma that the Union forces had just undergone, and took that in consideration in dealing with Meade.

This sheriff could have had a perfectly constitutional view of weapons going in, and have been traumatized by the particular “Batman” case. Just as Brady might have been fully conservative as Reagan’s press secretary until his interaction with Hinkley.

From a constitutional POV it is one thing to forebear to prosecute a provable case, on the one hand, and a different thing to prosecute a bad case, on the other hand. If not, why is Obama reelected when he should have been impeached?? With due respect to the sheriff, I think that where he stands on this issue may be over influenced by where he happens to sit.


56 posted on 01/23/2013 9:19:13 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Washi

In other words, it doesn’t require membership in the oligarchy of 9 black robed tyrants in order to determine the constitutionality of a law.

The Constitution was written to be understood by every citizen (at the time).

It’s just been fairly recently that the Humanists have elevated the elite to the point of having the sole handle on what the Constitution says and means.


57 posted on 01/23/2013 9:25:48 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: TigersEye

[[I also think we should respond less to points made by liberals and simply push straight ahead with our own agenda expressed clearly and uncompromisingly.]]

That is the great mistake of the right- tryign to ‘debate’ liberals and win arguments- you can NOT win arguments with al iberal- facts mean nothign to liberals- truth means nothign to liberals- republicans mistakenly think that if they win arguments with the left, or even if they simpyl give otu the facts, then the public will eventually come over to hteir side- IT’S NOT WORKING!!!

Like you say- republicans NEED to simply ignore the rantigns and insanity of the left in regards to tryign ot debate them, and just forge on ahead with an agenda of our own- take a stand, tell the lefty “Oh NO You don’t- Not on our watch you’re NOT goign to take away our rights”

That is the ONLY thing that these thugs o n the left udnerstand- As soon as the right begisn to stand up for itself and push back, the left runs and hides behind the skirts of the constitution- the very constitution they wanted to destroy in the first place- it’s ONLY useful to them when they feel uncomfortable when republicans stand up to them- Push the left right into the very traps they have been settign for hte right for decades now

The newspaper company that printed the names of gun owners got a taste of htis- when their names were printed, the newspaper folks ran and hid behind their second amendment rights because they got a taste of what it was like to be unarmed and afraid when the peopel fought back- the cowards o nthe left stil lrefuse to admit they made a terrible mistake printing out the gun owners addresses- and thats’ exactly what I mean abotu not beign able to reaso nwith hte left- they NEVER admit anyhting- ever! You can’t win an argument with hte left-

Advice to all politicians o nthe right- Stay the hell away from liberal news outlets- you’re doing ourt party more harm than good- you will NEVER win an argument with the left- EVER! Stay the hell away fro mthem and start standign up to them isntead- ok? Thanks GOP!


58 posted on 01/23/2013 9:44:05 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

Absolutely 100% right on the money. The lib leaders are liars and the followers are Kool-Aid drinking zombies. Discussion with them is itself an irrational thing to try.


59 posted on 01/23/2013 1:11:05 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Mechanicos; All
28 of 29 Utah Sheriffs sent a letter to President Obama saying that they will not enforce Unconstitutional gun control laws.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2981570/posts

60 posted on 01/24/2013 3:36:46 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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