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2 Naperville (Illinois) smart meter activists arrested during installation
Beacon News/Chicago Sun-Times ^ | January 23, 2013 | SSUSAN FRICK CARLMAN and BILL BIRD

Posted on 01/30/2013 4:34:14 AM PST by Timber Rattler

Two Naperville residents who have long opposed the city’s Smart Grid Initiative clashed with police Wednesday afternoon as municipal employees attempted to install an electric smart meter at one of their homes.

Malia K. “Kim” Bendis, president of the grass roots Naperville Smart Meter Awareness group, and board member Jennifer A. Stahl face trial in DuPage County Circuit Court in Wheaton on misdemeanor charges. Bendis was cited for attempted eavesdropping and resisting a peace officer, and Stahl for interfering with police and “preventing access to customer’s premises,” according to a city of Naperville community relations officer.

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Stahl allegedly resisted installation of a smart meter at her home. Bendis reputedly filmed what happened after city workers and police arrived at the scene.

A video that accompanied an e-mail sent by the Naperville Smart Meter Awareness group depicts an installation in progress, despite a locked gate outside the house.

(Excerpt) Read more at beaconnews.suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Illinois
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Here's the accompanying video, and should be a real wake-up call to anyone who still thinks that they have private property rights. Watch it all and note the cop's behavior...he clearly doesn't want to be there, but toward the end, he tells the woman to stop recording him and threatens her with arrest, even though he's standing in the middle of her property.

Installer hops locked fence escorted by armed Naperville police

1 posted on 01/30/2013 4:34:20 AM PST by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

This is ridiculous, but the scariest part is the violation of private property. She’s got no right to electricity and they’ve no right to hop her fence.


2 posted on 01/30/2013 4:41:03 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

They sure wear sharp looking police uniforms out there.

That cop was the sharpest looking guy I have seen in a long time.

I never heard of a charge of Attempted eavesdropping, Must be a new one , but we have thousands of laws no American ever heard of I guess.

Personally I haven’t got a lot of animosity toward smart electric meters, as far as I can tell the main reason for them is so the meter reader doesn’t have to come once a month, but I am sure there are several other reasons that they could be suspect, such as cutting off your electricity remotely whenever they feel like it


3 posted on 01/30/2013 4:45:43 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer
I never heard of a charge of Attempted eavesdropping,...

You can't have 'eavesdropping' in an open air public setting. The officer was performing his ordered public duty and the eavesdropping charge is intentional abuse of authority. A good lawyer would eat him alive in court. He should have done like the rest of the LEO chickens that stop recordings citing "I was in fear for my safety" crap.

4 posted on 01/30/2013 4:51:02 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Venturer

> I never heard of a charge of Attempted eavesdropping, Must be a new one , but we have thousands of laws no American ever heard of I guess.

America 2013 - a nation of powerful men making laws in secret.
You would have thought that they could have just put the meter on the pole off of her property and without the fuss. This was staged to make an example of he and put the fear of government in the sheep.


5 posted on 01/30/2013 4:51:17 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Children, pets, and slaves get taken care of. Free Men take care of themselves.)
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To: Timber Rattler
More details and videos here:

Two Naperville Women Arrested After Trying To Block ‘Smart Meters’

...including this quote from a local LEO thug:

“No matter where you move, no matter what jurisdiction you move into, you agree to all that stuff. If you’re in the city of Chicago, or the city of Elgin, or wherever you’re at – the city of Naperville – that’s city property,” the officer said. “The law allows it.”

And the weaselly city manager?

Naperville City Manager Doug Krieger said the city is within its legal rights to install the “smart meters” on private property, replacing old meters which are also their property. Krieger also said the meters are safe.

Krieger said Stahl and Bendis deserved to be arrested if they violated the law, but it was not immediately clear what charges the women faced.

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“We absolutely are not bullies. I believe we’ve bent over backwards to accommodate them,” Krieger said.

And here, we get to the root of the evil...

Krieger, however, said the meters are funded in part through an $11 million federal grant, that requires them to complete the installation. He said the lawsuit could drag on for years, “and we don’t have that much time.”

6 posted on 01/30/2013 4:56:08 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Venturer
Well, these residents' complaints center on the non-stop RF signal that the new meters emit as well as causing a security issue in which crooks can easily determine if anyone is home based on those meter signals.

However, the larger issue is that they give the government, via the utilities, the means in which to control how much electricity a customer can use, and at what settings heat and air conditioning have to be set, all in the name of global warming.

Recall what happened in california...

California Seeks Thermostat Control

7 posted on 01/30/2013 5:05:09 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

Krieger, however, said the meters are funded in part through an $11 million federal grant, that requires them to complete the installation. He said the lawsuit could drag on for years, “and we don’t have that much time.”

Of course trying to find a judge who will issue an injunction pending the suit outcome will be impossible in the socialist people’s court too.


8 posted on 01/30/2013 5:07:58 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Timber Rattler

From 1/24/2013:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2981639/posts


9 posted on 01/30/2013 5:08:57 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Venturer

Personally I haven’t got a lot of animosity toward smart electric meters,...(Putting tin-foil hat on) It is said these have, or will have, the ability to read RFID chips so the gubbmint knows what you cook, when you are awake, how much laundry you do, etc., etc. They also emit electromagnetic fields (what doesn’t?)and cause tooth decay, I guess. EMF’s have never been proved as unhealthy or healthy as far as I know. (Did you know you can take a flourescent light tube underneath a power line and wave it around and it will light up in your hand, sometimes?).


10 posted on 01/30/2013 5:09:06 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Venturer
... but I am sure there are several other reasons that they could be suspect, such as cutting off your electricity remotely whenever they feel like it.

I don't think that's possible. Meters don't contain an on/off switch they simply monitor power usage. A 200 Amp switch is pretty big.

What they can do is communicate with the new appliances that have smart technology. The theory is that they can set the temp in your fridge, A/C, etc. They can also track usage and generate trends for the power company to regulate generation.

These women didn't interfere physically with the installation they simply didn't open the gate. NOT grounds for an arrest. Filming the cops should be done at EVERY arrest or confrontation.

The city provides the electricity so they own the meters and can change to whatever they want. It sucks but if you live in a place where you allow the govt to control such things then the govt controls them and not you.

11 posted on 01/30/2013 5:09:22 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Timber Rattler

IBM and Cisco are some of the players behind the push for smart meters. IBM on the software and Cisco on the wireless networking. This is a scam to get American consumers to pay more for less electricity (as coal gets driven out and useless solar&wind projects get promoted)

All under the guise of the hip phrase “Smart Meter” as if it is more advanced. It is not. It is designed to make you into an electricity slave same as 0bama-Care makes people medical slaves. Plus you and me have to pay for the installation of these POS smart meters. About $500 will be built into your bill


12 posted on 01/30/2013 5:20:05 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Timber Rattler

Bump


13 posted on 01/30/2013 5:21:42 AM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: Timber Rattler

It would sure be a shame if some mischievous neighborhood tyke also jumped the fence some night and took a pipe wrench to that expensive smart meter. The city would then have to come out — at its own expense — and replace it. It would be even more terrible if the replacement meter suffered the same fate. And if hundreds of other Smart Meters were also repeatedly vandalized. It might even make the city think twice about their insistence that every home have one.

And that would sure be a shame, wouldn’t it?


14 posted on 01/30/2013 5:24:35 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack

It wouldn’t be necessary to break the meter; simply blocking the signal would suffice. A couple of hundred people doing this randomly (in a town of 200,000 people) would do it.

You could tie up the bureaucrats with a staff just to fix that.

The problem of course, is that they’re spending your money to fix something you don’t even want.


15 posted on 01/30/2013 5:31:10 AM PST by IncPen (Read the Constitution.)
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To: Timber Rattler

So, did this woman cancel her electricity service?

Does she have any legal grounds to refuse the electric company?

No, I didn’t think so.

Paranoid hysteria. What FR does best.


16 posted on 01/30/2013 5:34:59 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Paranoid hysteria. What FR does best.

So you're OK with the gross violation of private property rights in this case, as well as getting arrested for recording cops on your own property?

Seems like you're on the wrong forum, bub.

17 posted on 01/30/2013 5:37:13 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

This is just the latest in a series of violations of property rights.

Many people, even FReepers, supported HOA and other covenants that restrict private-property usage even after a deed has been signed over (here are the keys to your new car, but remember, you are never allowed to hang an air freshener from the mirror) because they claimed it protected the value of their property to force their neighbor to obey by the rules of others.

Then of course there is the the thousand nicks from the EPA.

Eminent Domain is perhaps the most egregious violation of private-property rights.

Now we have the eco-nazis claiming that it is required to save the planet.


18 posted on 01/30/2013 5:41:47 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Timber Rattler

I saw them on TV. They are the very definition of fools. They contracted for electricity and implicit in that contract is the right for the power company to come read the meter.

That contract also allows the power company alone to determine what shall be done to the meter, including replacing it with a radio that transmits a digital read out of the metered numbers.

The hoopla over smart meters is pretty much ignorance extrapolated beyond the limits of reason. If absolute privacy is demanded then it must suffer the consequence of doing so in the cold and dark.


19 posted on 01/30/2013 5:44:07 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Timber Rattler

Did she cancel her electric service? Didn’t I already ask that?

She gives the electric company the right to install a meter since she freely chooses to buy electricity from them.

She is violating her contract.

This isn’t a “private property” issue.


20 posted on 01/30/2013 5:48:11 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
This isn’t a “private property” issue.

Good luck with that one, comrade.

21 posted on 01/30/2013 5:50:25 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: 1010RD; Timber Rattler

She signed a contract (service agreement) with the utility company which means that the utility company and or it’s contractors shall have unfettered access to the meter and the service lines going to said meter.

In other words she does NOT own that meter or the line going from the pole or transformer box to her house

Same goes for gas, cable, and phone.


22 posted on 01/30/2013 5:50:25 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Slaving away so obama supporting deadbeats can play)
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To: dennisw

Well, probably not. The smart meters are cost effective devices that collect billing data and feed it to billing computers.

You are not required to use electricity. But if you do, you must have such a meter if the power company uses them. That is the ultimate decision. Do I have electricity or not?

I have one and the main good I see is that the neighbors dogs don’t go into an uproar when the meter reader doesn’t come


23 posted on 01/30/2013 5:51:28 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Gaffer

More of these cops need to be held PERSONALLY civilly liable for their misuse of authority.

Attach their houses to the lawsuits. That’ll get their attention.


24 posted on 01/30/2013 5:53:01 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Safetgiver
No tin foil hat necessary. The meters aren't UL approved (at least here in Florida they're not). While the equipment at the pole is not UL approved either, it is not sitting on the side of your house. The components that you bought when you built your home and were installed by your EC were UL approved.

There have been house fires directly attributed to the meters however, the power company assures us this only happens to old homes with old wiring. I wonder if the installers flip a coin to guess whether it's safe when arriving at the scene of an obvious older home.

While the power company assures everyone this is more efficient, everyone I know who has had one installed has noticed no difference in their bill but in fact some have had an increase. When inquiring about the increase they're told the old meter wasn't working properly and they 'got away' with paying less for years. Most accept that explanation, I would not.

So, we funded these meters through our tax dollars and overall, there's no discernible difference in the billing. A win/win for the smart meter maker, the power company whose equipment was upgraded at no charge and in some cases, got a rate increase.

25 posted on 01/30/2013 5:53:26 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Venturer
I've read about these Naperville police officers...

26 posted on 01/30/2013 5:55:58 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Timber Rattler

” Krieger also said the meters are safe. “

Not true. One of them bit my sister.


27 posted on 01/30/2013 6:00:42 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Are you incapable of understanding the idea of the contract she has with the utility and the rights the utility has to install, read, and service a meter?

Is insults all you have? Sad.


28 posted on 01/30/2013 6:02:05 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: liberalh8ter
The meters aren't UL approved (at least here in Florida they're not). While the equipment at the pole is not UL approved either, it is not sitting on the side of your house. The components that you bought when you built your home and were installed by your EC were UL approved.

So you suppose that the utility is installing unsafe devices? Don't you think that they have insurance carriers as well? ("U" stands for "underwriters.")

There have been house fires directly attributed to the meters however, the power company assures us this only happens to old homes with old wiring.

Sure there have. The meter is not doing anything to stress the houses internal wiring, so this in nonsense. Do you imagine that this meter is designed to send surges of excessive current throughout the house?

29 posted on 01/30/2013 6:06:22 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Venturer

“such as cutting off your electricity remotely whenever they feel like it”

Only if you don’t pay your bill. And utility companies send out notices long before they turn off a service. If you can’t pay due to a fixed income (social security) or if you have a medical condition that requires an electrical connection (oxygen generator) they do not turn off the service.

These smart meters make it impossible on the otherhand for some deadbeat hoodrat to swipe the meter off one house and put it on his because those meters are coded to each residence.


30 posted on 01/30/2013 6:14:01 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Slaving away so obama supporting deadbeats can play)
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To: SoothingDave
In the case of fires, the power companies have told homeowners they must go through their homeowners insurance. Insurance carriers have denied the claims citing the meter as the sour space and the power company as the responsible party. The homeowner is stuck in the middle and after having lost a home, must pay a lawyer to intervene on their behalf. AFAIK, no cases have been brought forth - yet. The U 'underwriters' in UL have no exposure here since they have not approved the meters.

As far as stressing the internal wiring, I never said it did. I repeated the power company's claim that fire in conjunction with the installation of the smart meter *only* happens because the house has old, outdated wiring. I'm guessing knob and tube.

I'd prefer not to beta test the meter which is why I opted out. As I said in my previous post, this is a win/win for the meter maker and the power company. Since it usually results in an increase in billing, it's also a way for the power company to obtain an increase without approval (Florida must approve FPL's increases).

31 posted on 01/30/2013 6:17:12 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: BuffaloJack
I never heard of a charge of Attempted eavesdropping

I don't know the law there, but in NH if you are going to video record someone, anyone on your property, you must first post signs informing them they are subject to video survellance.

Recording someone "without their knowledge" is illegal.

Holding the camera in their face or verbally telling them is still "without their knowledge", you have to have a sign or signs at all entrances to your property.

32 posted on 01/30/2013 6:17:58 AM PST by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Actually if you read the fine print on the smart meter policies they do give the authorities to cut off or limit your use of power “during an emergency”.

That could be a storm, a fuel shortage, civil unrest, planet getting too warm, too many people out there watching Fox News....whatever they feel the “emergency” is.


33 posted on 01/30/2013 6:17:58 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: liberalh8ter

Sour space = source.....I hate auto correct.


34 posted on 01/30/2013 6:19:43 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: liberalh8ter

You seem to have missed my point. The meters may not be UL listed, but they surely are underwritten by the power company’s insurance carrier. I highly doubt that anybody is putting devices onto power lines that have not been tested properly. Business just doesn’t work that way.

Do you have any sources for your claims about fires? It sounds like hokum.


35 posted on 01/30/2013 6:26:54 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: AppyPappy

Sounds like they need a “cage” installed around them to prevent them from biting people...

Perhaps a guy like Michael Faraday could be consulted on the construction of such a cage.


36 posted on 01/30/2013 6:32:00 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SoothingDave
Smart Meter Fires
37 posted on 01/30/2013 6:33:56 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: bert

No it is not. There was never implicit in the contract that the power company could monitor your use and regulate how much you use. The contract was for you to pay for what you use. Smart meters do more than simply allow the power company to read the meter remotely. Thats a good thing and supposedly saves money and time. [Tho there is never a request for a rate decrease because of all the money saved.]
You need to read a bit more about these things. Yes they CAN cut off your power when it suits them and these new ones can do more...

I do not know Napierville and whether the electricity comes from the municipality. But I do know that here we had to opt in to have the meters installed and they could shut off our air conditioning when they felt the need. I am going to see if I can opt out....we’ll see how that goes.


38 posted on 01/30/2013 6:42:29 AM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: liberalh8ter

So my house, built in 1937, could go to the ground if they put this crap in?


39 posted on 01/30/2013 6:44:09 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Safetgiver

My brother’s family lives in SoCal and when they moved into their home, a smart meter was installed. A few days later, my sister-in-law started complaining of migraines. The thought that the smart meter was doing it didn’t occur to them so it went on for weeks with trips to the doctor and no answers.

One day their neighbors told them they had theirs removed because it was giving them headaches (literally, not figuratively) so my brother did the same and his wife’s migraines stopped the day after they removed it.

I don’t know exactly what would cause it and I’m sure it doesn’t affect everyone the same way. Still, I’d be plenty mad if these things were enforced where I live. Thankfully, my brother was given a choice to use it or not. Utilities were mad about it, but they didn’t force it on him.


40 posted on 01/30/2013 6:45:50 AM PST by Marko413
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To: SoothingDave

Used to be a smart meter manufacturer headquartered not far from here.

Set up shop in a hillbilly poverty pocket Appalachian county (until they exhausted all the bribes....er, tax incentives coming from the State. Then they pulled up stakes and moved to another state further south to milk theirs). And the meters themselves were being manufactured in Mexico.

Nothing could possibly go wrong with THAT now, could it?


41 posted on 01/30/2013 6:45:58 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 2CAVTrooper

She already had a meter...had one for years.

The article says you could have a meter that had to be read for a fee...she had that...Charger her the fee abd be done.

Instead they had to pull this crap.

Not buying it.


42 posted on 01/30/2013 6:49:38 AM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Actually if you read the fine print on the smart meter policies they do give the authorities to cut off or limit your use of power “during an emergency”.

In what area is that the case and how is that different from imposing rolling blackouts on entire areas when demand exceeds supply? In its basic form a "smart" meter merely provides an automated way for the power company to determine usage and enables suppliers to offer pricing incentives for people willing to shift power consumption from peak to off-peak demand times.

AFAIK, control of items in a specific home are tied in with the "smart" grid, which is a completely different thing.

43 posted on 01/30/2013 6:55:39 AM PST by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: Safetgiver
You need to spend some time researching this issue. There is a lot of info out there. It's probably best to find out what smart meter your power company is installing and find out if it is UL approved. IMO, the lack of UL approval is the soundest excuse for refusal.

Also, research where your power company easements are. For example, my property only has a easement that runs along the front of my home next to the street.

You can also find out if your State has an opt-out. That info isn't always easy to find but can usually be garnered by reading through the transcripts of the power company and government meetings on the subject. Additionally, neighbors can be very helpful. Some around you may already have done the research which makes it easier for you to go behind them and verify.

44 posted on 01/30/2013 6:55:55 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: 2CAVTrooper; Timber Rattler

Exactly and my point as well. The terms of her service are clearly spelled out. Fulfill them or alter them contractually. The only argument she has is that government has granted a monopoly on the supply and delivery. Those lines to her house have, for the most part been depreciated to zero decades ago.

At my house I paid for the meter, fittings, and lines from the pole to my house. They are mine. The electricity or in other cases gas/water are not. If I built a closed water loop system I’d be exempt from sewer and water charges from my municipality.

At the heart of the problem is government.


45 posted on 01/30/2013 7:10:15 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: raybbr

“I don’t think that’s possible. Meters don’t contain an on/off switch they simply monitor power usage. A 200 Amp switch is pretty big.”

They can cut your power any time. My mom lives in El Paso and has these meters. One for the hot water heater and AC and another for the rest. A couple of months ago she missed a payment and they called her on the phone. She didn’t have the money to pay to when the operator hung up the power went off. My mom called me and I gave her my credit card. She called in and paid. They told her to go out to the meter and press a button on the front of the meter. She did and they power was restored.


46 posted on 01/30/2013 7:21:35 AM PST by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: IncPen

Blocking the signal would be a real shame too. Really sad when the peasants refuse to concede to their betters. Buncha uppity rebels ...


47 posted on 01/30/2013 7:23:32 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: SoothingDave

[Paranoid hysteria. What FR does best.]

You have no reason to fear anyone here on FR, it’s not like the comments are going to threaten your job with the power company.

Your electrical union will protect you.


48 posted on 01/30/2013 7:33:02 AM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: liberalh8ter

Thank you. There may be some defects or installation errors. It seems like some states are already looking into this.

My point about this not being a private property issue is still valid. You can refuse a meter if you refuse service altogether. That’s the law.

Simply refusing what the utility has the legal right to do is not going to solve anything.


49 posted on 01/30/2013 8:03:42 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Agreed. The power company has the right to tell you if you reuse their meter, you lose power. I can't say in the case of this woman from Illinois whether the power company was legally on their easement because I do not know where their easement is on her property. On my property, there is no easement for FPL therefore, they would have to drop the jack at the pole and cut power. I do have to allow them access to read my meter but if I were to not allow it or have a big dog in their way, their ability to react ends at the pole. if I choose to prohibit their access, they will "estimate" my monthly usage.

As an aside, I live in a very rural, wooded area of aprox. 200 homes. About 10% of us refused meters. In the long run, FPL has had to have the smart meters read on site because our location is prohibiting their ability to get an accurate reading of the smart meters.

50 posted on 01/30/2013 8:21:35 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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