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NRA chief: Why we fight for gun rights
CNN ^ | February 1, 2013 | David Keene

Posted on 02/01/2013 10:06:02 AM PST by neverdem

After President Lyndon Johnson signed the Gun Control Act of 1968, many anti-gun politicians looked forward to the day when they could completely ban the sale and ownership of firearms and perhaps even confiscate those already in private hands.

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Anyone who doubts this need only look at what happened in the literally bankrupt city of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, last week. The organizers of the largest outdoor show in the country, the Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show, announced that they would not allow the display or presence of the firearms the president likes to demonize as assault weapons. Within days, more than 300 vendors withdrew in protest as the NRA and others urged Second Amendment supporters to boycott the event.

Soon after, show organizers announced it was being postponed indefinitely. This was the largest outdoor show in the country. It draws a huge crowd every year and according to local estimates, about $80 million won't be arriving in the pockets and coffers of the pro-Bloomberg, anti-gun mayor of Harrisburg now.

As the battle over restricting Second Amendment rights continues, other elected officials under pressure from the Obama administration to ignore the feelings and deep beliefs of some of their constituents will learn a similar lesson.

Hundreds of self-proclaimed gun advocates didn't believe Obama was anti-gun based on his first term and wrote the NRA saying we were using scare tactics to have our way: Now they know.

Second Amendment supporters are in no mood to give those who would deny them their rights a pass and will vote in the next election in the same united way they responded to the insult leveled at them by the organizers of the Harrisburg show.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 02/01/2013 10:06:10 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

http://www.morningstartv.com/oak-initiative/marxism-america


2 posted on 02/01/2013 10:08:01 AM PST by PLD
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To: Born Conservative; airborne; smoothsailing; Dr. Scarpetta; martin_fierro; Coop; Tribune7; ...
BANG!
3 posted on 02/01/2013 10:11:37 AM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
I find it interesting that the NRA is so often mentioned in articles about the boycott of the ESOS. The NRA was late to the dance. Vendors and thousands of customers were boycotting the show long before the NRA. Those same people pressured the NRA to drop out of the show.

While I am a member of the NRA, I do not trust them to advocate on my behalf. They are too willing to compromise our rights.

4 posted on 02/01/2013 10:13:26 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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To: neverdem
Because I don't want it to be me sitting on the edge of the pit...

Not while I have breath in my body will I surrender. Not even if all other hope is gone.

5 posted on 02/01/2013 10:17:37 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

“While I am a member of the NRA, I do not trust them to advocate on my behalf. They are too willing to compromise our rights.”

Support Gun Owners of America.


6 posted on 02/01/2013 10:25:27 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: neverdem
Our communists controlled Courts and Federal Government is fast closing in on our freedoms. Removing guns from our hands is the first step to a dictatorship and controlling our speech is next. America must wake up and take back the Senate and keep the house and in the meanwhile dump RINOs.
7 posted on 02/01/2013 10:33:39 AM PST by Logical me
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To: neverdem

I always wonder about any person or orginization that would support Harry Reid. Other than the Mafia. I guess we’ll see how that goes. Although Harry has been pretty quiet since the SHTF. If I spent my time and money getting dirty Harry elected I would expect him to be a little more vocal.


8 posted on 02/01/2013 10:35:31 AM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: neverdem

That “Gun Show” in PA was shut down by 2nd Amendment US Citizens not because of the NRA but in SPITE of them(the NRA).


9 posted on 02/01/2013 10:39:10 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

US Navy Vet ~ “ That “Gun Show” in PA was shut down by 2nd Amendment US Citizens not because of the NRA but in SPITE of them(the NRA).”

Agreed !
It was American citizens who defend the 2nd Amendment , not any organization.
Outdoor Sportsmen ( Hunters /plinkers /fishermen /hikers / adventurers / etc.)
who have said in a unified voice: ENOUGH OVER REACH

There are no “assault guns” except for those 7,000 ordered
by Dept.Of Homeland Security/ our government (fully auto ).
They are U.S. military grade with full automatic capacity.
Where are those guns going ? No one has yet explained !

In New York , the Governor has passed,in ‘emergency session’
a SAFE Act bill, unconstitutionally banning certain weapons in N.Y .
Legislators had 20 minutes to read and review the bill before it got rammed through.
There was no need for an ‘emergency’ vote , except that Andy Cuomo wanted notariety
He wants to be considered a contender for the Democrat Presidential nomination in 2016 !
It is the most drastic anti-Second Amendment , unConstitutional legislation
ever fabricated behind closed doors , and voted on in the middle of the night.
The fact that his “assault Weapons “ ban (military type)were responsible
for only 5 out of 769 homicides in all New York (or .007 %)makes it
hardly an ‘emergency ‘, or public safty crisis .
I hope the citizens of the country remember this as Cuomo’s legacy, and remember this in 2016 .


10 posted on 02/01/2013 11:12:59 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Our enemys don't fear us ; and our friends don't trust us !! I wonder why .. (rhetorical))
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To: US Navy Vet

We all stand together as Outdoor Sportsmen ( Hunters /plinkers /fishermen /hikers / adventurers / etc.)
OR ,
We all fall together !

Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals:
# 12) Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”


11 posted on 02/01/2013 11:21:34 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Our enemys don't fear us ; and our friends don't trust us !! I wonder why .. (rhetorical))
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To: ScottfromNJ

I do that as well.


12 posted on 02/01/2013 11:22:23 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Tell THAT to the “NRA” when they keep STABBING us in the back with “endorsments” of POS DEM Politicians(Harry Reid).


13 posted on 02/01/2013 11:32:35 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: neverdem; All
I think gun right supporters need to take a look at the different Second Amendment groups to see which one they feel is more in line with their way of thinking. Take a little time to research their positions on all gun issues, along with their history of fighting for your gun rights. The NRA is by far the biggest of these organizations, but many are not happy with their past compromises.

National Rifle Association

http://home.nra.org/#/nraorg

Gun Owners of America

http://gunowners.org/

Second Amendment Foundation

http://www.saf.org/

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership

http://jpfo.org/

Welcome to Oath Keepers

Oath Keepers is a non-partisan association of current and formerly serving military, reserves, National Guard, veterans, Peace Officers, and Fire Fighters who will fulfill the Oath we swore, with the support of like minded citizens who take an Oath to stand with us, to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, so help us God. Our Oath is to the Constitution

Our motto is “Not on our watch!”

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

14 posted on 02/01/2013 12:19:56 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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To: saleman
I always wonder about any person or orginization that would support Harry Reid.

The NRA did not endorse Reid in 2010.

15 posted on 02/01/2013 12:38:26 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: PLD

Thanks for the link.


16 posted on 02/01/2013 12:39:29 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: US Navy Vet
Tell THAT to the “NRA” when they keep STABBING us in the back with “endorsments” of POS DEM Politicians(Harry Reid).

The NRA did not endorse Reid in 2010. Ditto Angle. The NRA was neutral. Why do you think neither Reid nor Pelosi would touch a renewal of the so called "assault weapons" ban? It would kill too many rats in Congress.

17 posted on 02/01/2013 12:56:03 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: ScottfromNJ
Support Gun Owners of America.

Good group, but how much power does their lobby have in DC?

18 posted on 02/01/2013 2:52:11 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Inyo-Mono

“Good group, but how much power does their lobby have in DC?”

I believe that goes as far as their funding, the more support they get the more they’ll be able to lobby and fund legal challenges. GOA is no compromise and definitely is worthy of our support.


19 posted on 02/01/2013 3:58:17 PM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: ConservativeInPA

“I do that as well.”

Good to hear. NJ/PA is in the 3rd circuit which is loaded with Reagan and Bush appointees, hope we start to see some legal challenges to NJ’s unconstitutional gun laws by the gun organizations.


20 posted on 02/01/2013 4:02:06 PM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: ConservativeInPA

“I do not trust them to advocate on my behalf. They are too willing to compromise our rights.”

Considering by their own 1968 admission in their own Rifleman magazine that they were behind the 1934, 1936, and 1968 gun control laws I don’t trust them, either. They were the ones that coined the phrase “sporting purposes of firearms”. They NEVER stood for firearms in the context of the 2nd Amendment; they always took the “sporting purposes” stance until only recently. Let’s see the NRA get rid of the 1934 NFA and the 1968 GCA that THEY were instrumental in getting into place. We haven’t seen them lift a finger in that regard.


21 posted on 02/01/2013 6:44:40 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: US Navy Vet
Tell THAT to the “NRA” when they keep STABBING us in the back with “endorsments” of POS DEM Politicians(Harry Reid).

Who's "us"? NRA doesn't stand for National Republican Association, FYI.

22 posted on 02/01/2013 8:00:12 PM PST by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: CodeToad
You are an absolute, unadulterated moron. You have been spewing the same scumbag garbage for years - since you started at FR. It was irrelevant then and it's even more irrelevant now.

For the last 7 years you've been on here saying that forty five (45) years ago, in 1968, their magazine admitted to helping pass gun control acts then and in 1934 - seventy nine (79) years ago.

Since then, you've claimed this as proof that the NRA would come out in support of any gun control regulation that might come to the forefront and claim they are stopping any worse legislation. That is, that they would "compromise." And, for 7 years, you've offered only your own vapid speculation, and for 7 years, rejected any argument that the NRA-ILA was formed after 1968, et. al.

Fine. Let's put all of that behind us. Because for the last 6 weeks, your 7 year long tirade on the NRA has now been put to the test, and instead of you recoiling into silence about how completely wrong you were, you double down on your own idiocy! It's like watching Saddam Hussein's Ministry of Information. It's truly mind-boggling how clueless you look.

December 14, 2012 was the date of the most horrific gun crimes ever to hit this nation. Maybe not the most deadly, but the one that tugged at our nation's heartstrings more than any other - innocent, young children getting shot and killed point blank by a ravenous evil madman. The response was swift, and the mechanics of the anti-gun lobby swung into motion. Decades of laws that have failed in the past were brought to the forefront, none of which would have stopped Newtown, of course, but I digress. Millions of moms who had no stance on the issue were brought to tears and anger by the biased media.

And one week after the event, what did we see? If we were to believe your theory, it would have been a press conference by Wayne LaPierre agreeing that "something needs to be done to stop gun violence" and that they will work together with those on Capitol Hill that everyone can agree on. BUT WAIT! That didn't happen! Wayne LaPierre rightly stared down the biased media, called them out, looked Code Pink in the face, and stated that GUN LAWS WILL NOT SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. In other words, he did the exact opposite of what you've been ignorantly carping for 7 years!

And thus, the NRA has been pilloried in the biased media and by hack politicians as having "blood on their hands." Week after week, NRA execs have been on Capitol Hill, the Sunday talk shows, cable outlets, and in newspaper editorials getting the message out that additional gun laws won't solve this problem. They didn't put their foot out, see LaPierre get attacked, and take a step back. They fought, like they have been saying they have done for years, for our gun rights. Behind the scenes, we can be sure they are on the phones with politicians who have benefited from them in the past, reminding them that the time to pay back that favor is now - you think Harry Reid doesn't know this?

And now we begin to see that the gun control cabal is fading. Their persistence and consistency is working, because their message is better. They are getting the word out that "assault weapons" are just cosmetic features with no connection to how 'deadly' a weapon is. They are getting the word out that a "gun show loophole" is nothing other than Americans having the right to free trade. And most of all, the media are coalescing around a universal background check, thinking that might be the consolation prize in this whole battle - the NRA has come out against that, too.

In short, everything you've said for 7 years has been blatantly wrong. And instead of congratulating them on being the public face of the 2nd Amendment at a tremendously emotional time, you stick to your two-track recitation of "1934 NFA!" and "1968 GCA."

23 posted on 02/01/2013 8:20:22 PM PST by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: neverdem
I was looking forward to attending the Gun Show in Harrisburg again this year, but I am proud of my fellow Pennsylvanians for standing up to these limousine liberals who think they speak for the majority.

We showed them the true power of “We The People” - now if only “We” could follow up with a massive march on Washington DC.

24 posted on 02/02/2013 2:41:41 AM PST by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: neverdem
The NRA raked in about $100 Million over a couple of months of anti-gun hype, which they will use to keep anti-gun hypesters in office next election.

Cash flow, folks.

25 posted on 02/02/2013 3:02:37 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: Dan Nunn; All

Being a “Benefactor” member of the NRA, I have toplay devils advocate to the trend I’ve seen over the last ten or so years in that tghe National organization along with “some” state affiliate organizations have tended to trennd torwards the safety blanket of protecting “hunter’s rights” more than the overall gun owning community that may not be hunters at all...

The non-hunter is more likely to be the very advocates of opposing ANY gun-control legislation or regulation at ALL levels of government, more than the NRA and its affiliates give lip service to...

I happen to fall into the latter group because I do not hunt, but if I had to , I’m sure I could manage the task...

So in the spirit of protecting ALL gun-owners, no matter what your involvement or motivation is to protect the Second Amendment, I have to say that the hunting community needs to step up more than being a mere benefactor of those that would protect the overall purpose of the Amendment in question...

I know that may come across as being rather short and harsh towards the hunters in our midst, but I stand by my observations and conversations I have had with many of the heavy hitters in the NRA and my state’s affiliate organization...Much to a lot of dissagreements I know are out there to my analysis/observations...

I cannot say I am much aware of CodeToad’s assertions about the NRA’s involvement in the 20th centuries gun-control acts, and I will dive into these assertions with my own inquiries and research in the organizations lobbying and participation in these issues...

Again, I can only say in my own experience I have seen a bias towards a hunter’s only mindset over the last ten years that has me concerned that the overall direction by the NRA and the state organizations has been extremely shortsighted and perilous to us all...

If anything my input has been to protect (within the NRA and TSRA) that overall protection of ALL gunowners, dispite what, in my opinion, has been a factional misdirection of effort to protect one segment of the gun-owning community...


26 posted on 02/02/2013 7:30:10 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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