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Assault Weapons Ban Has Rough Road Ahead, Grassley Says
Roll Call ^ | Feb. 1, 2013 | Humberto Sanchez

Posted on 02/04/2013 1:00:13 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 02/04/2013 1:00:22 PM PST by neverdem
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To: redgolum; US Navy Vet; 2111USMC; Keith in Iowa; Iowan; Iowa Granny
BANG!
2 posted on 02/04/2013 1:09:39 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
He noted gun show sales are typically one-on-one sales, and he stressed that federally licensed gun dealers at the shows already must use NCIS to check backgrounds

For the gun shows I've attended the last 20 years, I'd see on average maybe two or three people at the show walking around with a gun for sale sign on their back. Usually it was some sort of safe-queen high price collector military rifle (non-auto). You can sell a gun on Craigslist quicker than waiting for a gunshow.

3 posted on 02/04/2013 1:14:01 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: neverdem
We need a bill ready to push into law OUTLAWING all private security people from carrying guns. That means liberal elites in fancy highrises won't have paid armed security. Either will Hollywood's 'stars' as they preach about taking away our guns.

If we're disarmed, so are they... It can be called the 'If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander' bill of gun control.

4 posted on 02/04/2013 1:19:20 PM PST by GOPJ ( Revelation can be more perilous than Revolution. Vladimir Nabokov)
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To: neverdem
Sen. Charles E. Grassley, R-Iowa, said vulnerable Senate Democratic incumbents could be the key to preventing an assault weapons ban from passing this year.

Gee, you mean the NRA's single-issue strategy actually works?

But I thought a common theory here suggested that the NRA only endorse Republicans?

5 posted on 02/04/2013 1:22:34 PM PST by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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the MSM is settling in on the Universal (permanent record) backgroun check as a compromise.

staw man sales are already illegal.
sales as shows require a background check.

this is about abolishing the 90 day destroy records rule.


6 posted on 02/04/2013 1:26:08 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: neverdem

This does not make me feel much better, what with how the Republicans have folded on everything else recently.


7 posted on 02/04/2013 1:35:43 PM PST by jim_trent
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To: jim_trent
This does not make me feel much better, what with how the Republicans have folded on everything else recently.

Which pubbie would vote for gun control knowing that they would be challenged in a primary from the right? You can argue about being fiscally conservative, the consequences of shutting down gov't and threatening credit ratings. Not gun control. It's the rats who were supposedly pro 2nd Amendment in 2006 and 2008 who won in those years giving the rats control of Congress, not the gun grabbers!

8 posted on 02/04/2013 1:53:03 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
"Grassley said he supports updating the National Instant Criminal Background Check System with mental health information. The NCIS is currently incomplete where mental health records are concerned."

Looks like Republicans may pass a bill like that. A large portion of the adult population has been diagnosed as being mentally ill at some time in their lives. They, along with other non-felon groups that have already been barred from possessing firearms or ammunition would then give large numbers (~ 25%?) in support of outlawing firearms for everyone else. Things will get very interesting after a bill like that passes.


9 posted on 02/04/2013 1:57:44 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: neverdem

As long as the Republicans lack any conviction or backbone, any dangerous legislation has a good chance of passing.


10 posted on 02/04/2013 1:58:23 PM PST by lurk
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To: Dan Nunn

“Gee, you mean the NRA’s single-issue strategy actually works?”

It hasn’t worked in the past, they seem to be listening better now.

The NRA has supported every major gun control law passed in the last 50 years.


11 posted on 02/04/2013 1:59:41 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Universal background checks have nothing to do with gun shows. Its about abolishing the private transfer of firearms between law abiding individuals.

A background check will also require a 4473 which creates a paper trail and increases cost.


12 posted on 02/04/2013 2:02:20 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: neverdem

Well, look what happened when they criminalizd alcohol. Honest citizens went out and bought lots of firearms and then machine guns, so they criminalzed machine guns, and these formerly honest citizens, now armed criminals, became wealthy armed criminals, protecting their turf. Did they go back to normal jobs? No, because now they had power.

Now, the honest citizens being turned into criminals aren’t going to be dealing in a secondary product; they’re going to be dealing in a primary product. It won’t be moonshining and bootlegging, it will be arms dealing, magazine and arms manufacturing, and ammunition manufacturing and sales. And a large amount of it will be an underground black market, non-taxed economy.

Obama and the democrats are complete idiots. They now say they need more taxes and can’t see where they can cut spending? They could raise about a billion dollars easily with all the excess ammo they’ve bought just in the last few months.


13 posted on 02/04/2013 2:04:16 PM PST by Real Cynic No More
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Well, look what happened when they criminalizd alcohol. Honest citizens went out and bought lots of firearms and then machine guns, so they criminalzed machine guns, and these formerly honest citizens, now armed criminals, became wealthy armed criminals, protecting their turf. Did they go back to normal jobs? No, because now they had power.

Now, the honest citizens being turned into criminals aren’t going to be dealing in a secondary product; they’re going to be dealing in a primary product. It won’t be moonshining and bootlegging, it will be arms dealing, magazine and arms manufacturing, and ammunition manufacturing and sales. And a large amount of it will be an underground black market, non-taxed economy.

Obama and the democrats are complete idiots. They now say they need more taxes and can’t see where they can cut spending? They could raise about a billion dollars easily with all the excess ammo they’ve bought just in the last few months.


14 posted on 02/04/2013 2:04:52 PM PST by Real Cynic No More
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To: neverdem

BTW, those who have been adjudicate/committed are already reported to the NCIC by the institutions and denied firearms purchases.


15 posted on 02/04/2013 2:05:13 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: driftdiver

*** Its about abolishing the private transfer of firearms between law abiding individuals.***

So true. Years ago I went to a BIG gun show and before I left I had traded for several guns and traded off several. wheeled and dealed, left in the evening with a new firearm and a few dollars to boot. I had traded around at least five or six firearms before the day was out.

Now, think about how many “background” checks I and the person I was trading with would have had to make.


16 posted on 02/04/2013 2:57:52 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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"He noted gun show sales are typically one-on-one sales, and he stressed that federally licensed gun dealers at the shows already must use NCIS to check backgrounds." NCIS huh?
17 posted on 02/04/2013 3:26:00 PM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Yup. That’s what he wrote.


18 posted on 02/04/2013 4:28:21 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

I saw it and found it funny. I like the show.


19 posted on 02/04/2013 4:37:07 PM PST by EEGator
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To: familyop
A large portion of the adult population has been diagnosed as being mentally ill at some time in their lives.

The key term here is DIAGNOSED. It really needs to be ADJUDICATED. With maybe some verbiage added regarding being "Baker Acted" or involuntarily committed for observation or something. If you're going to start tracking down folks who have ever sought help for being depressed you're going to make the problems much worse in the future because people will just stop looking for help. What about all the vets who've sought help for depression but aren't suffering from PTSD or some serious issue? You going to make them second class citizens based on a diagnosis of depression alone?

20 posted on 02/05/2013 10:15:54 AM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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