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New York's 'SAFE' Act: The 'Rape' of the Second Amendment
American Thinker ^ | February 5, 2013 | Michael Filozof

Posted on 02/05/2013 12:40:17 AM PST by neverdem

In January, the New York State Legislature passed the Orwellian-sounding "SAFE" (Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement) Act. The act was debated in closed session without committee hearings, and Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed it into law within an hour of its passage -- after waiving the required three-day public comment period. Cuomo bragged that New York now has the "toughest assault weapons ban" in the country but claimed that the law respects the Second Amendment and preserves the rights of "hunters and sportsmen." The former is true; the latter is a bald-faced lie. Even if you do not live in New York, you should be very worried, because the SAFE Act is a harbinger of what Democrats in the federal government will do nationwide if they can.

The SAFE Act is far worse than you might imagine. Harold "Budd" Schroeder, member of the NRA Board of Directors from New York, described the law as "the rape of our gun rights." That is no exaggeration. The law is as harsh as (or harsher than) the gun laws of some European nations that do not have a Bill or Rights or a Second Amendment.

The most widely reported provision of the law is the total ban on the sale of military-style rifles classified as "assault weapons," effective Jan. 15. The provision forever prohibits anyone other than a law enforcement agency from acquiring such weapons, including the popular hunting and target variants of the AR-15 rifle. Current owners of such rifles must register them with the state by 2014, and the registration must be renewed every five years. This gives the state a list of persons from which to confiscate them in the future, and the five-year renewal provision gives the state an excuse to find ways to deny ownership once every five years....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloodoftyrants; cuomo; democrats; guncontrol; rapeofliberty; safeact; secondamendment; tyranny; waronliberty

1 posted on 02/05/2013 12:40:30 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

So glad I left NYS many years ago


2 posted on 02/05/2013 1:04:09 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: neverdem

Bloomberg/Cuomo making criminals out of law abiding citizens, right and left through Slurpee Big Gulps, smoking, eating, and now guns and magazines. Lookout NY’ers, next they’ll be coming after sex.


3 posted on 02/05/2013 1:05:14 AM PST by Ms. Blunt
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To: neverdem
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4 posted on 02/05/2013 2:53:14 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Well done!


5 posted on 02/05/2013 3:11:58 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: neverdem

“Current owners of such rifles must register them with the state by 2014, and the registration must be renewed every five years.”

Hah!

I assure you that guys aren’t paying $2000+ for AR’s & AK’s in NY right now with the intent to register them by next Jan. 15th.

NY may well be “ground-zero” for CW2.


6 posted on 02/05/2013 3:43:06 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: panaxanax

There are no armed slaves and only the unarmed can be enslaved.


7 posted on 02/05/2013 4:48:10 AM PST by southernerwithanattitude (New and Improved Redneck!)
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To: neverdem
The most widely reported provision of the law is the total ban on the sale of military-style rifles classified as "assault weapons," effective Jan. 15. The provision forever prohibits anyone other than a law enforcement agency from acquiring such weapons, including the popular hunting and target variants of the AR-15 rifle. Current owners of such rifles must register them with the state by 2014, and the registration must be renewed every five years. This gives the state a list of persons from which to confiscate them in the future, and the five-year renewal provision gives the state an excuse to find ways to deny ownership once every five years...

Echos of NYC. GO back to the late '60's. NYC required all owners of AR-15s to register them with the promise that "The registration list will never be used for confiscation." Now jump ahead to the early '90's and David Dinkins. Dinkins and his city council of left wing statists passed a law that all of the registered guns had to be sold, turned in to police, rendered inoperable or confiscated. About 45 people failed to comply. It turned out that most of these were paperwork errors, but about a half a dozen were stormed by police their guns confiscated and they were arrested.

Yet another reason to despise New York.

8 posted on 02/05/2013 4:54:47 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: who knows what evil?
The best way to implement Gun Registration
9 posted on 02/05/2013 5:05:01 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

“Yet another reason to despise New York.”

Yet another reason to despise New York [CITY], not NY in general.


10 posted on 02/05/2013 5:05:18 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: from occupied ga
The law affirmatively requires that a person's firearms must be confiscated if any order of protection is filed against him -- no matter how bogus the complaint may be.

This happened to a buddy of mine. I posted this a few weeks ago. He lost his rifles because a crazy woman filed a bogus charge against him. She never showed up to court and he never got his rifles back. This happened over ten years ago.

11 posted on 02/05/2013 6:01:07 AM PST by USAF80
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To: USAF80
This happened to a buddy of mine. I posted this a few weeks ago. He lost his rifles because a crazy woman filed a bogus charge against him. She never showed up to court and he never got his rifles back. This happened over ten years ago.

I had a similar situation 2 years back. Mine went to the pawn shop (out of my legal possession, but still owned by me), and were reclaimed without incident.

12 posted on 02/05/2013 6:05:41 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: panaxanax
Total NY votes for 0bama = 3875826, for Romney = 2226637

NYC votes for 0bama = 1677024 for Romney = 373847 (NYC ratio D:R = 4.48:1 Democrat)

Subtracting NYC votes from total NY state votes 0bama = 2198802 Romney = 1852790 (Still a ratio of 1.186:1 Democrat) New York state without NYC is still majority democrat.

New York [CITY], not NY

A distinction without a difference. Plus the grossly misnamed "SAFE" act passed for the STATE of NY, not just NYC.

13 posted on 02/05/2013 6:05:56 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: southernerwithanattitude

Very true. Ammo sales in NY will drop to a trickle, if I lived there I would go out of state to buy it.


14 posted on 02/05/2013 6:26:29 AM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: Lazamataz

New Yorks finest kept his.


15 posted on 02/05/2013 6:39:16 AM PST by USAF80
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To: from occupied ga

“about a half a dozen were stormed by police their guns confiscated and they were arrested”

As I recall, one got a “turn it in or bad things will happen” letter. He replied with a “come get them” letter. They raided the address. He had moved to Montana; the new occupants were not amused.


16 posted on 02/05/2013 6:39:50 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: ctdonath2

I remember that. Didn’t get much press at the time. After all the medai don’t want to show the perfect government making mistakes.


17 posted on 02/05/2013 6:44:21 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: neverdem

There is nothing about safety in the Safe Act. This is not only an infringement but outright intimidation of legal and honest gun owners. Obviously designed to make total government control an easy reality.


18 posted on 02/05/2013 7:26:26 AM PST by Boomer One
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To: neverdem
This is the sort of law that would make any tyrant bust his buttons in pride of ownership!

Man, oh, man, am I glad I moved out of NY - but I still find that cold comfort.

Unfortunately, this is the sort of tyranny awaiting all of us if we lose the fight to maintain our 2nd Amendment rights to these fascists. Once the 2nd Amendment rights go, they all go. We can bet the farm on it!

19 posted on 02/05/2013 9:06:46 AM PST by Gritty (The purpose of the Constitution is to insulate personal freedom from the lust for power-A.Napolitano)
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To: from occupied ga

Perhaps I should be more specific.

We up-staters consider NYC to include the surrounding area, i.e. NY Metro. The population of NYC and the adjacent area is 22 Million people, mostly liberals. Of course, there are pockets of Marxists/Socialists upstate as well, Ithaca, Buffalo, Syracuse, Rochester, etc.

Think Atlanta as opposed to the balance of your state.

“The New York City Metropolitan Area’s population is the United States’ largest, with 18.9 million people distributed over 6,720 square miles (17,400 km2),[29][30] and is also part of the most populous combined statistical area in the United States, containing 22.1 million people as of the 2010 Census.[31]”

Yes, we upstaters are outnumbered, but not by much and that margin is narrowing. So, you might say that we too.... are “occupied”.

A normal thinking adult would show their support for us upstate CONSERVATIVE NY’ers who are battling the strictest anti-gun laws in our country.

You, however, seem to attack us at every opportunity. We are not only fighting for our rights up here, but for your rights as well. You should be praying for your fellow ‘like-minded’ FReedom-loving gun-owners in NY State instead of launching immature attacks on us.


20 posted on 02/05/2013 9:08:07 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: panaxanax
Think Atlanta as opposed to the balance of your state.

It isn't that I don't understand that even in NY there are conservatives. The problem with NY is the winner take all nature of electoral politics. If you're outnumbered by even a small margin, then you have no say. And in NY conservatives are outnumbered by a large margin.

You should be praying for your fellow ‘like-minded’ FReedom-loving gun-owners in NY State instead of launching immature attacks on us.

My prayers or lack thereof won't change a single mind in NY. I know what people there are like. I had the misfortune to live both upstate and in the Bronx before escaping to a better place. I can assure you as rare as conservatives were in Tompkins county they were nearly non-existant in the Bronx. On those few occasions when I got into political discourse with liberals, you could tell that logic and facts were not important. They were true believers, and as we know "For true believers no proof is necessary and no disproof possible."

I don't launch attacks on you. I simply state the facts about the politics in the state. The facts being that conservatives have no voice there. The ONLY voice anyone hears coming out of NY is the endless rant of higher taxes, gun control, globull warming, etc. You personally may indeed be a conservative, but you have no say and no way to change the votes of statists who dominate NY politics at both the federal and state level. And as you mentioned virtually every upstate population center is a hotbed of tyrant wannabe statists/democrats. I agree you're living in an occupied state same as I am. But two things: I at least am aware of the nature of what comes out of Atlanta, And I don't try to paint a rosy picture in defiance of the facts.

At least here the occupiers are occasionally handed a defeat. Case in point the greedy NFL franchise demanded a new stadium paid for by the taxpayers. The governor (R) fell on his knees to kiss the Falcon's owner's backside and tried to ram a significant chunk of the capital expenditures onto the taxpayers. The legislature voted NO. Atlanta's black Democratic mayor then decided to put $200,000,000 on the backs of Atlanta taxpayers, and the black democrats who make up the majoity of the Atlanta city council went along with it.(most are so dumb they have to be watered twice a week - look up Hank Johnson as a typical black democrat from Atlanta) Unfortunately, too many state funds are given to Atlanta to consider this a clear victory, but at least it was a small vistory against the state/big busniness exploiatation of the taxpayer for private gain.

21 posted on 02/05/2013 9:53:05 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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