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Why Do Americans--Especially Among the Contemporary Elite--Believe Their Country is Evil?
Rubin Reports ^ | 1/30/'13 | Barry Rubin

Posted on 02/06/2013 12:48:18 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator

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I found this on today's (2/6) Jewish Press but am posting it from its original site, where it was first posted a week ago.
1 posted on 02/06/2013 12:48:28 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Easy answer:
They’re searching for a sense of self-righteousness in their humanist worldview.


2 posted on 02/06/2013 12:50:40 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Huh? This country is their country. Do you mean the country as it was 200+ years ago, or the government as outlined in the Constitution? That’s long gone.


3 posted on 02/06/2013 12:52:55 PM PST by Tublecane
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—They’re searching for a sense of self-righteousness in their humanist worldview.—

I agree with this 100%. Young people get involved with movements and “causes” b/c they want to feel meaning in their life. There is a void in ones life that can only be filled by Christ. Young people are constantly trying to fill that void with anything, but Christ.


4 posted on 02/06/2013 12:53:57 PM PST by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious" / @rjustice21)
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Not all true ~ but I see their point. Our elites are evil, but never mind. If the latest research points to the mutant gene variations for Cystic Fibrosis as also the reason human beings can resist the Black Death, there are only 3.45% of us in America who can survive the next great plague.

They'll run out of antibiotics before it's had its run through the population.

Most other places on Earth have less resistance than that.

When we're down to 9 million people, maybe we ought to pick a place with a view and low cost maintenance to restart civilization. That's what they did after the Plague of Justinian you know.

5 posted on 02/06/2013 12:57:46 PM PST by muawiyah
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Two or three years ago I was at a friends New Years party and struck up a conversation with another neighbor. She was a lawyer for a huge firm here, college paid for by her parents, a comfortable life, money, her husband was a house husband and she, got a little drunk and then unloaded on me how she hated this country, its people, history and how today’s Americans must be forced to suffer for it.

I have need seen or heard a more visceral hatred against anything and that is why I understand the president and liberals and leftist rage and hatred and will not be satisfied until they destroy the country.


6 posted on 02/06/2013 12:58:38 PM PST by edcoil (Manage your own lawsuit: www.jurisdictionary.com?refercode=KK0012)
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You mean young men are looking for chicks?

Darn, they did that in my youth as well.

7 posted on 02/06/2013 12:59:14 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: MrB
Easy answer:

They’re searching for a sense of self-righteousness in their humanist worldview.

Easier answer: They are idiots and chumps, who don't know the difference between their (blank) and a hole in the ground. Better?

8 posted on 02/06/2013 1:00:08 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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Viet Nam
Watergate
The CIA

The fact is in the 60s and 70s (and really in the 50s but we didn’t find out about that stuff until much later) America went on a tact that was at the very least sneaky and dishonest, and you could make an argument that it was down right evil. And it’s never really recovered, we’re always doing something sleazy to somebody, we keep getting in unpopular ill defined wars, aligning ourselves with seriously bad people, and electing tax and spend liberals. Anybody that doesn’t think that a large portion of our government has a strong evil bent is really not paying attention. Americans are still by and large good people, our government is scum.


9 posted on 02/06/2013 1:00:56 PM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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Because Satan has firm grip on our Government officials (by the time they get to Washington DC, or the State capitol -- the vast majority have sold out whatever principles they may have once had for power), and on the Nation's mass media 'news' and 'entertainment' industries (the raw sewage that gets piped into our living rooms every night if we dare to turn on the television), and on the Nation's government run schools (teaching them that there are no absolutes, No God, no perversion too perverted, and that baby murder is a 'reasonable choice')...

Or did I misunderstand the question?

10 posted on 02/06/2013 1:01:24 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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Well if they mean the zer0bama Regime? Well yeah it’s evil incarnate


11 posted on 02/06/2013 1:02:40 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Because they know each other so well..............


12 posted on 02/06/2013 1:04:48 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: discostu
The fact is in the 60s and 70s (and really in the 50s but we didn’t find out about that stuff until much later) America went on a tact that was at the very least sneaky and dishonest, and you could make an argument that it was down right evil. And it’s never really recovered, we’re always doing something sleazy to somebody, we keep getting in unpopular ill defined wars, aligning ourselves with seriously bad people, and electing tax and spend liberals. Anybody that doesn’t think that a large portion of our government has a strong evil bent is really not paying attention. Americans are still by and large good people, our government is scum.

He's not talking about people who hate the government. He's talking about people who hate the country and regard it as having been conceived in sin and that it never should have existed in the first place.

This is a strange state of mind. Even the Communists extolled patriotism towards "the socialist motherland." Why should the United States be considered the most evil country in history, and by its own elites?

13 posted on 02/06/2013 1:07:48 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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college professors and teachers......


14 posted on 02/06/2013 1:08:47 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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It basically boils down to a hatred for the Christian God.


15 posted on 02/06/2013 1:12:13 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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It’s the same thing. People tend to think of countries as monoliths, they don’t separate the people from the government, they don’t separate regions of people, they don’t separate events from the people. They think of it as one thing, England, France, America, all mono-units. So when the government does bad things, as ours so frequently does, people think “America bad”; when they run into people from one of the more “abrupt” regions they think “America rude”; when some tragic event happens in a small town on the East Coast they think “America armed and dangerous”.

It’s a natural byproduct of the way our brain works, it doesn’t like gray areas, it doesn’t like complex concepts, it doesn’t like dealing with large numbers doing disparate things. It likes large, singular, easily defined blocks. And when one section of that block has been borderline evil for their entire lives then it brands the block. In the minds of people that aren’t going out of their way to separate the parts America’s government is America.


16 posted on 02/06/2013 1:18:16 PM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
It basically boils down to a hatred for the Christian God.

Then why don't the liberals hate Armenia and Ethiopia? Why just the USA?

17 posted on 02/06/2013 1:18:30 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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lets go ask Bill Whittle. He has a very good indicator of the wave and flow odf the medias and how outside ideas critical of America found their way into our culture... via the TV. When we developed the technologies, we were a net exporter of american culture. As the rest of the world learned they could communicate, they started having hollywood create movies based on their biases specific to their target markets and sell them to us, the tide switched. Then the marginal idiots bought into the ideas and conspiracy became the big conversation piece for the unknowing, thereby shaking our core beliefs.
It is this which helped propel a alien asshole into our white house.
Go see Bill Whittle, Declaration TV on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGimIHknyYM


18 posted on 02/06/2013 1:20:04 PM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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It’s the same thing. People tend to think of countries as monoliths, they don’t separate the people from the government, they don’t separate regions of people, they don’t separate events from the people. They think of it as one thing, England, France, America, all mono-units. So when the government does bad things, as ours so frequently does, people think “America bad”; when they run into people from one of the more “abrupt” regions they think “America rude”; when some tragic event happens in a small town on the East Coast they think “America armed and dangerous”.

You're still not getting it.

It isn't about why Americans don't trust their government. No one should trust his government. I'm scared to death of my government, but I don't hate my country.

Moreover, you're missing the point that the promoters of this hatred of America are the very people who rule it. Most elites and tyrants use patriotism as a justifying ideology; this is probably the first time in history a nation's own native governing class has made use of self-hatred as a justification of its rule.

Of course, if the John Birch Society was right back when I was a member and Communism was secretly run by David Rockefeller and the Old American Establishment, then anti-Americanism would make good camouflage to hide the fact that through Communism America was taking over the world.

19 posted on 02/06/2013 1:23:19 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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No I’m getting it just fine, you’re not understanding what I’m saying. The normal person doesn’t see a difference between the government and the country, it is America, one whole indivisible unit, the government is evil, therefore...

It really is just that simple.

As for the elites promoting it, well think about it. They run a good chunk of the country, they know what their character is, they know what they do, why wouldn’t they think the country they steer towards evil is evil?


20 posted on 02/06/2013 1:28:18 PM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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