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The secret war behind Benghazi (lot's of good info)
NYPost.com ^ | 2/10/2013 | KYLE SMITH

Posted on 02/10/2013 2:14:36 PM PST by RoosterRedux

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To: rodguy911
Can't disagree with even one of your points.

Yet I wonder if his Manchurian Candidate quality is the result of the stage of his progression.

Let me be clear...I am not saying he is the AC.

But I am saying that he cannot be eliminated yet because there is no reason to believe that the AC will arrive on the scene fully possessed of Satan's guile. It is very possible that such possession is a "progessive" thing.

If I were Satan and wanted to present my son on the world stage, I would copy what God did. I would present him not fully formed and let him develop in his facilities.

I.e., let the world come to accept him over time...and let his (dark) powers develop over time.

In fact, keep the young AC himself in the dark. Why let this arrogant young man's ego run into dangerous territory?

He is already arrogant and narcissistic beyond that of any before him...but why give him the confidence he might use to embarrass himself with hubris (even though one can argue that Obama has certainly embarrassed himself).

There is no doubt in my mind that Obama would present himself before Satan/Allah as a devoted subject.

We must watch this guy carefully...this story isn't over yet.

61 posted on 02/10/2013 7:06:01 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks RoosterRedux.
Brennan chose to conduct a dangerous classified war without looping in Stevens, who paid with his life for his ignorance, according to the book.
Apparently the jihadists knew, though. :')


62 posted on 02/10/2013 7:21:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: rodguy911
Great stuff Pieter,I know you are right. But, if you get a chance to throw some links up would further illustrate how bad it is.

I really don't have time to post but a tiny amount of the enormous amount of public info that is deliberately left out of news sources. It is there for people to find though. Most bloggers, etc., don't look at much else other than current news stories, which limits them mostly to commenting on the NWO spew du jour.

Here's a quick one.

Secretary Clinton Kicks Off Global Philanthropy Working Group; Announces Revisions to Tax Regulations to Support Civil Society Worldwide

Media Note
Office of the Spokesperson
Washington, DC
September 24, 2012

Today Secretary Clinton announced new Treasury Department and IRS guidance aimed at lowering the legal barriers and administrative costs associated with cross-border philanthropy in support of civil society worldwide. The announcement coincided with a meeting of the State Department’s new Global Philanthropy Working Group, which brought together U.S. foundation leaders and government officials to discuss how they can work together to foster the growth and cultural acceptance of an independent civil society sector with a particular focus on emerging democracies and emerging economies. The scope and magnitude of global foundation giving and programming is expanding rapidly and strengthening civil society is integral to the success of these efforts.

The Treasury Department and IRS have issued proposed revisions to the tax regulations on “equivalency determinations,” the process by which a U.S. grantmaker evaluates whether an intended foreign grantee is the equivalent of a U.S. public charity. The reform announced by Secretary Clinton allows foundations to rely on a broader range of professional tax advisors when making these determinations. The Treasury Department expects that this will make professional tax advice in this area easier to obtain, will significantly reduce the administrative costs of foundation grantmaking to foreign civil society groups, and will also ensure that accurate determinations regarding foreign grantees are made.

The Global Philanthropy Working Group is the sixth and newest pillar of the Strategic Dialogue with Civil Society – the State Department’s formal mechanism for involving civil society in the policy-making process. The Dialogue operates through working groups led by senior U.S. Government officials and civil society representatives from around the world on topics including democracy and human rights, governance and accountability, labor, religion and foreign policy, and women’s empowerment. Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs Tara Sonenshine and Special Representative for Global Partnerships Kris Balderston will co-chair the new Global Philanthropy Working Group.

Link here

Do you see how while Benghazi was going on in the news... Hitlery was simply plodding along, smiling, doing the work of NWO ? And the public was in an uproar about the treason of Benghazi, but since only the toothless House had any public officials that would have any interest in even noting what was going on, Hitlery knew that in the end, the NWO media covers so their process can continue, which it does, quietly, with no news coverage. NWO subverted our political process over a century ago; Wilson was the Obama of his day, so whichever party is in power simply determines whether we get "pro-America" or "anti-America" versions of the advancement of NWO. They chip away at the Constitution every chance they get. Repubs chip away their way, Dems their way.

If the reader looks up Presidential advisors and senior officials in State Dept and OSS/CIA since 190x, and sees what impact they had, the story becomes clear: wow, we've got the same informal organization running the show in the background all the time, some just play the part of hawks, the others doves. They work at State, then go back to CFR full time or Harvard/Yale or some foundation, then come back to State. Or they're on the "defense policy" side; same education, from Defense to CIA to a foundation to Ivy League to CFR to a defense contractor, round and round, etc. To their defense, a lot of these people, IMHO, don't know exactly who or what they're really working for. IMHO, they've been taught NWO thinking for so long they actually believe the cover stories themselves. I think it's safe to say that if we had no one for President for four years, things would be run the same as they always are. As CFR writes policy papers, they invariably come true a few years down the road; this has been for 90 years. The "elder statesmen" that are still doing day-to-day at CFR are the go-to foreign policy people for the Executive branch. This is kind of humorous, because while many Americans don't believe this stuff, folks at CFR do (Hillary made such a comment at CFR, laughing, recently), as do diplomats around the world. Seems everyone knows but the peasants, who furiously maintain that this is a "wild conspiracy theory".

For example, the whole "Hagel" controversy - Hagel is co-chairman of the President's Intelligence Advisory Board and chairman of the Atlantic Council since 2009. In theory, how could he not be ok as SECDEF ? He's already privy to all information regarding intelligence and national security and he's in charge of the group advising the President. The snews never reported that though. The snews presented a fake fight - Hagel even acted like he had no clue about the issues, babbling like an idiot ! If he's that stupid about foreign policy and defense, he should lose his Chairmanship - and his seat - on those two boards and take a job as a short order cook. Let's see if he does...
63 posted on 02/10/2013 8:27:31 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
Disclaimer. I have not read this thread yet...but I will.
Before I do, I am going to try and make a little sense our of this mess.
First of all, there were at least FOUR very specific goals to this op, and for it to work the way it was supposed to, it had to go off without a hitch.
This was classic petraeus. Seen it before.

Planning for this began much earlier, sometime in June. yahya al libi was killed June 4, 2012, and as with ALL bigtime al qaeda deaths, there was a price to be paid, Tribute, if you will.
The death of al libi struck a match in someone's mind as a way to accomplish several goals at once and make it look as if the US was clean and pure as the driven snow.
It was a state, cia, and doj collaboration that began with the making of the nitwit video by a doj asset who was supposed to remain anonymous so it could be blamed on an ISRAELI billionaire...and by extension, Israel itself, which would have placed Netanyahu in the tenuous position of being personally blamed by this whitehouse.
Hence the preplanned snubbing and harsh words towards Israel before the Benghazi attack. Set it up and play it to the hilt.
ALSO, weapons were being moved to Gaza from Libya as well as to Syria using Turkey as the conduit for both. Turkey enlisted the muslim brotherhood in Egypt, and no surprise to me if it wasn't included in one or more of obama's conversations with morsi either.
I believe that Stevens knew and approved of the weapons going to Syria, but was unnerved by weapons going to hamas. Israel was much more likely to blow a very loud whistle on this whereas Syrian terrorists wouldn't even be questioned.
He probably complained to state about what was going on...and that made him dangerous....and expendable. There was the tribute for al libi and it was not long before Stevens' name began popping up in al qaeda circles as a target. Stevens was very aware of this, but his repeated requests for more security were ignored.
As September 11 approached, the plan was set in motion. The info about the 'video' was forwarded to the insane, but popular cleric hosting a show in Egypt that jihadis just love during the weekend before 9/11. THAT was when things started to unravel because it did not cause the kind of spontaneous uprising it was supposed to. It had to be nudged along.
The American Embassy in Cairo jumped the gun and sent out its 'tweet' of apology for the video early in the day and sent its personel home. The gathering crowds were whipped into frenzies by the mb clerics. By the middle of the day, the embassy was besieged by mobs...and as the pictures were sent over the airwaves around the world, other embassies in other countries came under protest over a video that no one had ever seen. But NOT Libya.
At the APPOINTED time, the compound in Libya came under terrorist attack. The entire administration was aware of it including obama. What did obama do? He telephoned Benjamin Netanyahu and talked for an hour and then went to bed...or at least where no one could reach him.
He went to bed fully expecting to be awakened with the news that there were NO survivors at the American compound in Benghazi.
When that didn't happen, thanks to the SEALs, they decided to try and follow through with the original plan anyway. So the next thing you heard was that some rich Jew had made a film that incited muslim riots and embassy attacks.
obama and hillary tried to incite even more riots by making an 'apology' video to be shown in Pakistan. Oh, the US had nothing to do with this, they whined. The subtext was it was the jooooooos.
THAT came undone when the real filmmaker was exposed as as a non-Jew, but that didn't stop obama from trying to play headgames with it at the UN...and keeping the video story alive for weeks after the truth was out.
They tried to say the film was made as a protest by a Coptic Christian, only to be doubly outted by Walid Shoebat as a terrorist and a criminal run by the fbi...whose partner was a palestinian terrorist. Only no one paid attention. But at least the blame could no longer be lain at Israel's doorstep even though the lies keep coming bigger and more outrageous than the ones before.
In the meantime, al qaeda has gotten its pound of flesh. Syrian 'fighters' are still getting weappns. So is hamas and now we are sending F-16s to Egypt and more money to the PA.
hillary is catching a bit of hell. So is obama. And even brennan is being grilled. There is so much more to this.
NOW ask yourself WHO is the ONLY, the one single person who has gotten away scot free and is even now being touted as a VICTIM of Benghazi?

KEEP YOUR EYE ON THEBALL!

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64 posted on 02/10/2013 9:26:18 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: MestaMachine

I wonder what happened to the survivors.

I remember reading that Petraeus went to Benghazi a day or two after the attack, and then met with the survivors (where ever they are).

hm.


65 posted on 02/10/2013 9:55:04 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: RoosterRedux

Guess who all’s still missing?

The surviving witnesses!

We have yet to hear from them, right along with the unfit, absentee CIC.


66 posted on 02/10/2013 11:59:59 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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67 posted on 02/11/2013 12:03:03 AM PST by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: RoosterRedux



Why can't we hear from them?

68 posted on 02/11/2013 12:04:04 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: TigersEye; Nachum
View the follow links. THIS is another explanation of why oboma left everything up to Panetta, and disappeared til he awoke the next day to go to Las Vegas and continue his campaign. THIS RUMOR, CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, HAS BEEN IN EXISTANCE SINCE BEFORE OBOMA'S WIN IN THE NOVEMBER, 2012 ELECTIONS...YOU CAN FIND IT ON GOOGLE. IN THESE TWO LINKS THE ACTUAL NAME OF THE INSIDER WHO PROVIDED THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED. READ IT AND JUDGE FOR YOURSELF.

http://www.inquistr.com/475038/retired-admiral-says-benghazi-gate-is-obomas-treasonous-and-impeachable-criminal-enterprise

http://www.giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2013/01/four-star-admiral-james-lyons-writes.html

Here's the story:

A story appeared in a blog in the fall of 2012 that stated that a Washington insider, name withheld for his protection, told the blogger that oboma was going to come out with a “October Surprise” that would win him the November, 2012 election. He then went on to explain the plan.

Since that was posted, in January, 2013, the insider, four star Admiral James Lyons has come forward and tells the following: Oboma and his handlers came up with the idea on how they were going to win the election in November, 2012 with the plans for a “October Surprise.” The plan was for Ambassador Stevens to be abducted and held for ransom. Oboma was to successfully “negotiate” for Steven's release. In trade for the release of Stevens, Oboma was to give the Muslim Brotherhood who were in on the plot and were providing the thugs to do the abducting, the blind Sheik, who we were holding in the USA, and whom the Brotherhood demanded be returned to them. And in the end oboma/handlers figured he would be seen as the “Big Protector of the USA”..a man who could deal with the “supposed enemy,” the Muslim Brotherhood. Oboma/handlers figured this would guarantee oboma a win in the November elections.

When oboma learned that the plan had blown up in his face, that the Muslim Brotherhood had abducted Stevens as planned, but had killed him instead of just holding him for ransom, oboma knew he had to huddle with his handlers and figure out a story to tell the public as to what happened. Oboma knew the truth could not come out, for all the reasons you will read about in the links. And so Oboma left orders to “stand down.” He was not going to send in soldiers
to kill his Muslim Brotherhood partners in crime, and he had to have time to come up with some story to try and explain what happened, and so he gave the order to “stand down.” and told Panetta to “handle it.” And off oboma goes to huddle with his handlers and create a story about what happened in Benghazi, until he appeared the next morning to fly to Las Vegas to continue campaigning.

Not everyone obeyed the order to stand down, The brave Special Forces soldiers and others who also responded to the call for help in Benghazi in turn fired on the Muslim Brotherhood and caused some damage,and the Brotherhood, thinking that oboma had double-crossed them, decided to kill Stevens instead. And now oboma was in real trouble, and he had to come up with a story, as it turned out, many stories, on what had happened.

Oboma, Jarrett, Axelrod, Panetta, Brennan, Hillary, Dempsey were all complicit in the plan and they have the blood on their hands of the dead Special Forces soldiers and others who answered the call to help in Benghazi. We now know, because Panetta offered this information in his recent testimony, that oboma told him to “take care of it” (Panetta’ words) and then disappeared, did not call in to check on what was happening, and could not be reached. Oboma did not “retire for the night” as some are saying. Oboma was in conference with his handlers on what they were going to tell the media and the public. Panetta did nothing, because he knew that oboma had given the order to “stand down” and do nothing to save these soldiers. And so it sounds like Panetta was not going to do anything because he did not want to get further involved in the treason that oboma was perpetrating. And so he dropped the ball on oboma by saying that oboma dropped it in Panetta’s lap and told him to “take care of it, and then disappeared.

We the people must not let this massacre go without getting the truth from those who knew the truth. These people MUST be punished...these were treasonous acts...THIS IS MUCH, MUCH BIGGER THAN WATERGATE AND OBOMA KNOWS IT. Mark Levin stated that we must contact Lindsey Graham, and all those on the Committee investigating this massacre, and demand that they call a special committee (don't know the exact name of the committee that should be called, but it carries more weight) to get the answers to the questions asked.

Unless We the People get involved, contact the Committee and DEMAND a special committee to get the answers to these questions, we will never get the truth, and the guilty will go UNPUNISHED.

69 posted on 02/11/2013 12:20:00 AM PST by itssme
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To: RoosterRedux

The Post article is propaganda. You can *know* this because the article can’t explain *why* Stevens was in Benghazi on 9/11, hundreds of miles away from his embassy, and the article can’t explain *why* we haven’t bombed the people we saw kill Stevens.

The article pretends that JSOC is running a hit campaign in Africa instead of the truth that Stevens and the State Department were bypassing the CIA to run militia and weapons (possibly even mustard gas) from Benghazi to the anti-Assad rebels in Syria.

Look at my hand in the South, the article shouts! (ignore my hand in the North)


70 posted on 02/11/2013 12:48:21 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Girlene
Was Brennan the moron who came up with the video excuse?

Hard to tell. If I had to guess I would bet on Axelrod. Its a political excuse,so outrageous its diversionary,buying time,what they do, right up his alleyway.

About 30 minutes ago Michael Scheuer on FNC had nothing good to say about Brennan. In fact thinks Brennan's a liar and nothing but an obama buttboy. I think he's right.

71 posted on 02/11/2013 4:59:37 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Brilliant stuff Pieter. Guess who just went back to the
CFR? Can you say little Timmy Geithner.
You hit a home run.


72 posted on 02/11/2013 5:06:25 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Girlene
THey have taken away any hint of stability in the ME with the Arab “spring”, leaving a power vacuum that the Muslim Brotherhood was too happy to take advantage of.

You gotta wonder however if that wasn't the purpose to begin with....

73 posted on 02/11/2013 5:08:44 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: RoosterRedux

You went beyond my pay grade....


74 posted on 02/11/2013 5:10:39 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: All

Great stuff in this thread. I haven’t been keeping up with this story.


75 posted on 02/11/2013 5:25:35 AM PST by McGruff (You are either with us or you are with the RINOs.)
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To: MestaMachine
NOW ask yourself WHO is the ONLY, the one single person who has gotten away scot free and is even now being touted as a VICTIM of Benghazi? KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE BALL!

Petraeus!!(or Hillary)

The guy who devised and designed it all.I feel like a student responding to a professor who has probably forgotten more than I will ever know.

I can only imagine the in-depth work and research you have engaged in to get where you are.Brilliant summary of Benghazi!

Thanks very much,it all makes sense.

Am I correct in surmising that if anyone in Congress or the media ever gets even close to the truth on Benghazi the regime can shut it down(or already is) with a nat. security play and claim its all a CIA op which it technically was and they can't talk about it.

Plausible deny-ability. Don't go anywhere without it.

Was Panetta basically in charge during the raid on Benghazi,was he calling all the shots or did Petraeus or others take charge?Where was Hillary during Benghazi? Wouldn't the Sec. of State be involved in a raid on one of their assets if not an embassy in a foreign country. Did anyone watch the drone feeds from Benghazi? Is there anyway for anyone else to see them?

How did they justify ignoring all the calls for increased security.

76 posted on 02/11/2013 5:35:03 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: MestaMachine

Anything here?POst # 69?


77 posted on 02/11/2013 5:41:18 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Girlene; RoosterRedux
"I'm not sure what brennan/obama are creating in the ME/ North Africa other than a total mess....chaos."

Advancing the Caliphate?

78 posted on 02/11/2013 7:46:08 AM PST by hummingbird
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To: hummingbird

Exactly...and Obama is grooming himself for the role of Caliph. And why not, if he establishes the Caliphate, he deserves to be Caliph.


79 posted on 02/11/2013 8:01:27 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: PieterCasparzen
So maybe this is the reason for no budgets, QE1, QE2.

Money going to promote the Caliphate - there is no accounting for money money money from the White House, Senate.

80 posted on 02/11/2013 8:03:10 AM PST by hummingbird
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